Is Liana a dirty word?

[UltraWomble]

Renner Laguna 2 (53 plate) low miles

1800 pez engine. 12 months MOT, £600 - sounds good and I had a Mk1 with the 1800 petrol engine, not rapid, but a lovely nice drive.

 

Renner electrickery aside is this likely to do something terminal and kill itself? I quite like the look of these and said when they came out I would like to own one, then they started grenading themselves....

[Lankytim]

Petrels are meant to be quite nice.

[nacho man]

Least the drive train is pretty normal ish. I reckon it's probably the best of the bunch reliability wise. I think they look quite nice and should be ok.

[Hendry]

I think with the petrol manual Laguna you are avoiding most of the issues these suffer from. Only things that really affect all models is the keycard system, the electric windows (regulator/motor faults IIRC) and the common Renault fault with the heater resistor burning out and melting the loom with it, which affects everything from Clio to Espastic. If some of the heater speeds don't work this is what it'll be. And seized wiper linkages, again common Renault model wide issue. Think the higher spec ones with digital climate don't suffer the heater resistor fault.

 

The Dynamique is the one to have, it looks sporty, well equipped and has uber comfy part leather sports seats. But without enough of the gizmos of the Initiale/Privilege to go wrong, no cream/beige carpets which on a car of this age will be manky, and doesn't look as plain as the Authentique/Expression models.

[PiperCub]

Petrol's are nice enough, the electricals can be a bit French as you suggest but I'd have a petrol one as a hack.

[DVee8]

FiL had a 53plate keycard trouble and tyre pressure monitor permanently saying it had flat tyres.

[320touring]

Have known a few folk to have front strut failures on the mk2 lagooona

 

So check that the struts look ok

[UltraWomble]

Off to look this afternoon. Will report back.

[Junkman]

 

Is Laguna a dirty word?

 

No, but "53 plate" is.

[Cavcraft]

I owned one once for 20 minutes, then sold it to Warrant.T.Craft. 

 

Don't these also have some hopeless headlight system, whereby each one has it's own ECU?

[Vince70]

DONT DO IT..

I did exactly the same thing about 8/9 years back when I went from a lovely reliable Mk1 RTi 16v Laguna to a 2 litre MK2 petrol Dynamique thinking it would be as good a car..

Ours was 4/5 years old at the time when we came to swap it for a scrap 15yr old fiesta ..

 

I've never had a car that was so bad in all my years of car ownership and it even made 20 year old BL ownership seem like I had been spoiled in the past with fantastic build quality and reliability .

 

I don't think there was a single item on that car that didn't go wrong and the car was so bad that not even Renault dealerships wanted them back in part ex.

 

Before owning a Laguna Mk2 I liked Renaults but it finished me off with the brand after that very car.

 

We couldn't sell it or do anything with it as even when it did run I would of been to scared to sell it on to anyone as it was also dangerous to drive as it had a habit of just cutting out and losing everything in the process, but most of the time if it did work (which wasn't often) it would only run in safe mode.

 

I actually think I had a second mortgage on that shite just for the repairs.

I really thought about just putting a match to the thing but knowing my luck with that car even my lighter wouldn't of worked.

 

But if you like a garden ornament which you can sit in from time to time then the Laguna is just the thing.

 

But if your are a sadist and must have one please don't go near an IDE engine Laguna as it will be a whole world of pain.

 

Also ours had low miles etc but it could be because it's been in the garage more than its been on the road as our Laguna was.

 

There's Autoshite then there's real Shite and I'm afraid the Laguna 2 falls in the latter.

[Bren]

Not a patch on the mk 1.

 

My neighbour has a 53 plate diesel, other than that I thought they were extinct - you see more mk1's than mk 2's which indicates how popular they are.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

I ran a 1.9CDi Slaguna for a bit, nice car. That one had the front spring breakage (not the struts) before I had it and the usual window reg failure - 25 quid for a new pattern reg and an hour to fit, POP. They do like to blow bulbs and the pez has an occasional gearbox fault where the output flange works loose or something. They also have electronic throttle bodies and the disc can jam shut - an hour to dismantle and clean, very easy. The keycard is a total and utter localised smart in the rectal orifice. I would leave the bastard unlocked (who'd steal one?) and have the keycard under the seat as they are SO easy to lose.

I would gladly have a 1.8 petrol Sport Tourer. A great looking car that never rusts, is insanely comfortable, handles and steers well and best of all, is worth fuck all. Loads in scrapyards so parts are buttons.

[Pillock]

My friend had a 53 I think. Petrol so no mechanical issues apart from the gearbox randomly leaked oil for a few days then stopped, but the electrics were a work of art. Radio didn't work when it was raining. Drivers door didn't lock, just a machine gun sound. Keycard died so just relied on the spare, that makes Russian roulette seem a safe bet. I don't think there was a time when all four windows worked, but never the same one faulty two days in a row.

[robinmasters]

I had a '52 1.8 pezzer. I liked it.

 

I think it remains the only modern car to have ridiculously big wheels and tall wings and not look like a toy car. Very handsome things.

 

Apart from the engine being entirely to small for such a heavy car, it wasn't bad. I had to get the keycard fixed (someone online does it for about £45), but aside from that all the faults (none of which I bothered fixing, I didn't like it that much) were minor consumables.

 

Lovely velour seats.

[cort16]

My mate had one that snapped both it's boot hinges so the boot was only held on the car by the latch and the miles went up 100 for every mile he drove it. That's was just a few if it's issues. With 300,000 Laguna on it miles he realised it was totally worthless and weighed it in.

[HH-R]

I'd say to avoid the 1.9 diseasel because they blow up, but there are probably none left because they've all blown up.

[HH-R]

Thinking about it, the mk2 Laguna really marks the point where it all started going wrong for cars, I can't think of another example that sums it up better.

 

Insanely complex electrics that no-one can fix, crap quality, exploding common rail diseasel, ECU for every single function, simple procedures made a pain (e.g changing a bulb).

 

They look GR8 though and I'd have a petrol.

[HillmanImp]

So the general consensus is that he should go for it?

[RichL]

I would for 600 quid. Doubt you'd get one cheaper with 12 months MOT that actually works.

 

Always liked them but would have to be a pez auto.

 

The car that changed Renault's fortune in the UK market... and not for the better.

[Junkman]

If it really must be a Laguna, buy one of these:

 

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

Is Laguna a dirty word?

 

I don't think its an actual swear word, but if someone described me as "a laguna", I wouldn't be pleased.

[twosmoke300]

Terrible cars. See so many people sucked into spending loads of cash on these. Slippery slope .

Usually the clutch or gearbox goes then the turbo / engine . Big mot bill due to shit suspension and rear discs that include the hubs . then its the turn of the key card.

Each time the customer has that horrible decision to make , " I can't scrap it cos I've spent loads on it".

 

The Mondeo tdci is a similar situation.

[cort16]

The pez ones are okay but have more than a few quality and electrical issues.

I'd say if you're looking for a 600 hatch buy a 1.8 petrol mk3 Mondeo .

[Bren]

As I said in my earlier thread I am surprised at how few you see - it is literally like they have fallen from the face of the earth.

 

I cannot see any trader wanting to sell these as he knows it will be coming back.

[UltraWomble]

Well, Ive done the only sensible thing under the circumstances and left £100 on a Rover 25.

 

A 1.4OMGHGFi

[TRW]

WCPGW?

[panhard65]

Well, Ive done the only sensible thing under the circumstances and left £100 on a Rover 25.

 

A 1.4OMGHGFi

Now that is taking the sensible option even a kettle series is more reliable than a Laguna and that is coming from a lifelong Renault fan

[Sloth in a bowl]

Even a basic mk1 2.0 8 valve job which shouldn't have anything complex to go wrong and that I had for 5 years and liked as a practical car (comfortable, loads of space); wasn't reliable.

Owning a V40 after the Renault taught me what reliable meant.

[2MB]

Funny that a Laguna II be mentioned in the same breath As a kettle series bubble Rover. An old workmate that I shared commuting with upgraded from a 214 16v that shockingly suffered HGF to a 1.8 petrol Laguna. The fucking thing never made it home from work (2.8 miles) without a total and catastrophic failure of all systems, which could only be fixed by coasting to a stop and leaving it for a few minutes. Matey got rid before throwing money at the problem, but even the basic petrol models are fraught with issues. Real shame as renault really put effort into making them a really nice place to be while travelling, while omitting the ability to keep going for a reasonable amount of time