I'm really sorry, question about MODERN VAG OMG

[They_all_do_that_sir]

Apologies, apologies and yet more apologies.

 

HOWEVER

 

Mrs.Wifey is considering changing her 2002 Citroen C3. Personally I think this would be a great shame as her wee car has a fantastic combination of being both slightly interesting and also modern - they are quite an honest car and evoke memories of simpler days, when a  compact hatchback was a basic affair. Plus they are future shite without a doubt.

 

ANYWAY

 

She has decided what she really really wants is a mk5 Golf, and she wants a dizzler.

 

As the one and only mechanic man for immediate and distant family, the turbot dizzler fills me with dread. I foresee weekends lost replacing all sorts of stupid modern dizzler nonsense like DMFs and the like.

 

THEREFORE

 

As a sort of compromise I have suggested the exploration of SDI dizzler golfs. These seem an altogether simpler affair, have the potential to last for ages and being a pathetic non turbot are definately both shite high and scene tax low.

 

QUESTION

 

Are these SDI golfs of the mk5 variety so slow my poor wife might consider driving into the central reservation, in the knowledge that an ambulance would be the quicker way to get home?

 

WORTH NOTING

 

She has made her mind up, so nothing can be done to persuade her what she really really wants is an XM, or better still a VOLVO etc.

[beko1987]

I asked this question a year or so ago when SWMBO got wanting a golf

 

Culminated in her having a drive of her friends one, me reading all the stories regaled to me on here and us spending a few hundred on the Meriva and keeping that...

[Rocket88]

Get her to test drive one.........................leave hand brake on. [not that there's much of a difference] they are catatonically slow, almost to the point of being dangerous

[cort16]

If I was getting a mk5 golf I'd got for the1.6FSi pez. They're good on fuel, not terribly slow and don't have any of the diesel bollocks, turbos or any of that nonsense.

[320touring]

The sdi lumps used to suffer from gearbox failure iirc

[Mr Lobster]

SDI Golf are incredibly slow. Icebergs will be overtaking you.

 

To counter the inevitable OMG DMF DPF VAG TDI ARMAGEDDON that is popular, a friend has a Mk V TDi Golf of some sort ( Don't know what power or spec) and its done something like 120k without any issue bar routine servicing and the like. Certainly didn't drop to bits the moment the warranty ran out anyway.

[They_all_do_that_sir]

If I was getting a mk5 golf I'd got for the1.6FSi pez. They're good on fuel, not terribly slow and don't have any of the diesel bollocks, turbos or any of that nonsense.

 

This would be my choice, I drove one and quite liked it. However for some bizzare reason she thinks a dizzler is the only way - her current c3 has the mighty* 1.4 HDi

 

She only does about 600 miles a month, so personally I don't think shes saving much over a pez

 

I actually think her c3 would feel faster than the golf - similar power output however the golf is waaaay heavier.

[Wackeldackel]

Polo SDI, or why not go the whole hog and just get her a nice caddy SDI van, if you're going to wheeze around with an SDI then do it in a van stylee surely? Preferably with bits of Seat inca liberally thrown in/bolted on for good measure.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

I think the modern ones are basically the same as they've always been, just with less little hairs ending up in back of your throat ,due to the waxing .

[spike60]

SDI Golf are incredibly slow. Icebergs will be overtaking you.

 

To counter the inevitable OMG DMF DPF VAG TDI ARMAGEDDON that is popular, a friend has a Mk V TDi Golf of some sort ( Don't know what power or spec) and its done something like 120k without any issue bar routine servicing and the like. Certainly didn't drop to bits the moment the warranty ran out anyway.

I had a 64bhp Polo as a daily and yup, slow. I can't imagine the extra weight of the Golf body will improve it. The lady friend had a 2005 Tdi Golf 2009-2013 as a work car, she took it from 40k to 125k, all town miles, nowt went wrong despite only occasional servicing. My main critism  is the price they fetch.

[Noel Tidybeard]

tell her to do as she's told and tell her NO

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...we will come and visit you in hospital when you come round

[saucedoctor]

Dunno where you're consider buying from, but my advice is as follows:

 

BUY FUCK ALL FROM ISAAC AGNEW.

[Mr Lobster]

If she is only doing 600 miles a month then diesel is pointless and a petrol would work out cheaper.

[garethj]

Worth test driving one to see how she gets on with it.  A motorway sliproad which runs uphill should be enough to make her reconsider.

 

You'd probably get one that's newer and nicer if you went for petrol instead of diesel.

[Vince70]

Check for rot around the front wings on the MK5 golf as I've heard that the foam material behind them gets wet and holds water in a ford puma rear arch kinda way.

 

So if you do buy one remove the liners and bin the sound deadening material.

[Hendry]

What about a Jetta, its basically a Golf but in saloon form, much rarer, look better IMO, and are loads cheaper than Golfs, my old man bought one in August 2012, 2009 plate so 3yr old, 2.0 TDI CR 140bhp, Sport spec so top of the range, 38K miles, £9K

 

Similar spec 2009 2.0 TDI Golfs are only now over 2 years later going for £9K. His has now done 105K, he uses it as a taxi so nearly 70K of taxi abuse and its not had any OMGDFPDMFJUSTSHATOUTYO! issues.

 

£6K should get you one like his now. If you do go for a Golf, get the "Match" spec, its a special edition with extras you normally don't get on lower spec versions.

[cort16]

I think they did some mk5 golfs with the 1.9 tdi engine it's the 2.0 that seems to have most of the problems .

[DS20]

Most of the 1.9TDI MkV Golfs had no DPF and are a low-output variant of the (relatively reliable) PD series of engines. I'd imagine one of those would be ok reliability-wise, and MUCH nicer to drive than an SDI model. Although at 600 miles a month, I'd probably look at a petrol model first - the 1.6s aren't bad, and although they're not quick, I wouldn't call them underpowered.

[AldridgePrior]

Just spoke to a workmate that is mkV golf daft.

 

He says the sdi is monumentally slow and that overtaking would be faster if all the occupants except the driver got out and ran on a bit until the car caught up and then they all get back in.

 

Hope this helps.

[kinkersaab]

They are all horrible horible shit things.i am a diesel hater, but i would poss have a 1.9 tdi over a fsi petrol vw, but realistically i would have non of them, buy a focus instead, better car in every way. The fsi engines all seem to sound like they are nearly fucked, from a cold start, rattly timing chains i think, but they also are known for timing chain issues, thats beofre the rest of the non fuel type specific vw shite starts happening. AVOID.

[Alan_Green]

Had a Golf 5 1.9TDi for 6 years as a 2nd car. Took it from 50K to 130K. Dashboard instrument pod failed expensively shortly after buying (common problem) but then no issues at all. Servicing only. Enjoyed owning it. Enjoyed driving it. Very fast. Spacious. Comfortable. Very good MPG. Felt safe and solid. A Mercedes coupe drove into the back of me in central London then a G-Wagen smashed into the back of us both (so 2 hefty impacts).  The G-Wagen's front was smashed in. The coupe was a total mess and it's C pillar was even creased. The Golf wasn't even scratched! Overall I would recommend a Tdi. Sold it at 130K but felt like it would run another 100K easily. Pics below are at 130K. Don't know about SDi's.  Lots of online comments about them being painfully slow. But they are much cheaper and how bad can they be? 

[cort16]

The 1.6 dci ford diesels are shite as well though aren't they? Infact I can't really think of one modern diesel I'd want to touch outside of manufacturer warranty . At least the 1.9 is a bit more old school .

I had an a6 with the 170bhp 2.0 diesel and it never delivered that big oomph of torque you got from the 1.9 either .

[twosmoke300]

Is the SDI a non turdo still ? Or just a low rated low blow jobbie. In the mk4 a non turbo was available but I would imagine that emissions regs and increased vehicle weight would have killed it off.

[Lacquer Peel]

The SDi is a non turbo job, aye, must be one of the last naturally aspirated diesels available in a mass production car.

[beko1987]

My stepbrother has a 57 plate gold TDI thinking about it. He's very happy with it, and tbh its been reliable to him, although his car history would make AS proud...

 

Does sound worse than my 1.9td XUD though, have had a few diesel bags drive past me and I've thought I'd be seeing some nice old van or something, and no, 2010 golf or BMW...

[spike60]

Is the SDI a non turdo still ? Or just a low rated low blow jobbie. In the mk4 a non turbo was available but I would imagine that emissions regs and increased vehicle weight would have killed it off.

S is for suction, non turbo. T is for, well, I reckon you know that!

[twosmoke300]

I knew the mk4 SDI was naturally asthmatic but didn't realise they carried it forward to the mk5 . I thought the SDI was just used to denote the giffer spec engine

[HH-R]

My mate has a mk5 plus, according to Wiki it's a 1.9 TDI. Quick and they've had no bother with it (only got 60 odd on the clock though). Not even any DPF WOEZ even though it doesn't do many miles and they've had to do the regen thing before. Still not sure I'd have one with my own money though (says the man who drives a Fiat).

[They_all_do_that_sir]

I'd rather she had a focus too tbh. My dad has had a mk1 now a mk2 and has had no bother at all with it.

 

However the golf is seen as more of a 'premium' hatchback (yeah me neither)

[Pillock]

It is premium.

 

You'll understand when you tot up all the bills it creates, they're definitely premium numbers just after the £ sign.