Don't blame the dogs, blame the owners.

[warren t claim]

Several cars come in for a right slagging off on these pages. Here's a typical poster child for the AS hate mob.

 

In reality though they're great to drive and are depreciating nicely into shiters territory. I appreciate that many of them are driven by complete cunts but that doesn't alter the fact that the car itself is a decent bit of kit.

[dollywobbler]

Great to drive? The one I drove wasn't. I thought the suspension had been welded up. I also disliked the fact that I could feel other people's hatred. 4x4s should be agricultural. They shouldn't go out of their way to try and be cars.

[Inspector Morose]

They're okay, I suppose. The one I tooled around in a couple of years ago was a pretty accomplished machine but it didn't do anything better than the equivalent saloon could do much better though.

[Ghosty]

And next, someone will say that Corsas are in fact good cars...

[dollywobbler]

I hope they do. My sister has just bought one... (Corsa C 1.2)

[Junkman]

Make it go away! Please!

[Lord Sterling]

I've driven a couple of these and to be honest they really are not that bad. I reckon at some point I will own one of these although I'm not a BMW fan, in fact I absolutely despise the company and its follwers, so its going to be a long time before I do though. I think they are starting to fall out of favour with fashionistas, wannabe hard small business men, blonde wags and wannabe gangstas.

[Partridge]

Meh. Don't see the point when you can have a Range Rover which can go off road, will be more luxurious and slightly less tosseristic. To be honest though, I don't give a flying monkey's toss what other people think of my car, but I really don't see the point in them.

[Station]

Great to drive? The one I drove wasn't. I thought the suspension had been welded up. I also disliked the fact that I could feel other people's hatred. 4x4s should be agricultural. They shouldn't go out of their way to try and be cars.

 

         

 

[DVee8]

To much torque for the gearbox,it will end up shitting it's self.

[Cavcraft]

I bet they're really nice to drive to be fair. I just couldn't have one though because of my own perceived image of the stereotypical owners. And I've got tattoos, short hair and a blonde wife. 

[Sigmund Fraud]

I'm afraid I'm a fully paid-up member of the AS hate mob... I'd rather walk the streets covered in tar and feathers than drive around in an X5 or any other massive, vulgar SUV. Sorry.

[warren t claim]

I think these are quite useful too.

[skattrd]

Ok Mr. Claim what piece of crap that you expect us all to hate have you bought?

[Micrashed]

These are probably quite good too...

 

But every one I see is on "private" plates and driven by 

[warren t claim]

Ok Mr. Claim what piece of crap that you expect us all to hate have you bought?

Nowt yet but it will be forthcoming in the next month or so.

[trigger]

I'd sooner do a steaming great shit into my cupped hands and then start clapping wildly then own a BMW X5.

[Richard]

I think these are quite useful too.

nissan-navara-teaser.jpg

 

When I first met my friend's future wife she told me how everybody in her native Texas drove pick up trucks and she had a girl's truck. I saw said girly truck when we went over there for the wedding, it was a Nissan Navara.

[Cavcraft]

I think these are quite useful too.

nissan-navara-teaser.jpg

 

 

I reckon about 1 in 10 are useful. They (useful) are driven by checked shirt wearing fence repair company owners and are usually covered in mud/shit. The others (non-useful) are usually owned by slack jawed morons with chrome 'ANMAL BASTARD MEGLOMANIAC' stickers, 97" chrome wheels and fat, idiotic families onboard, towing a jet ski to some unspoilt coastal resort to ruin it for everybody else. 

[Richard]

There's a "working" version of the L200 that looks ok. It has steel wheels and no bling, I saw a transporter load of them heading up north last week.

[quicksilver]

There's a "working" version of the L200 that looks ok. It has steel wheels and no bling, I saw a transporter load of them heading up north last week.

An L200 in this spec is probably quite a useful thing. They're good enough for the emergency services anyway.

 

It looks so plain and ordinary without all the 'Animal' graphics and chrome stuff.

[Junkman]

 

This looks very useful. Not sure for which use though.

[rml2345]

I don't quite get the pick up appeal TBH. They must be useful for the sort of folk that need 4x4 capability and a van but I get the impression that Land Rover do that sort of thing so much better. 

Or a County converted Transit.

X5s do nothing for me. Every time I see one it's either being driven by an angry bald bloke or a tiny woman who seems to be having trouble seeing where the thing ends. I'm sure normal people have them too, I just haven't seen any. 

[Junkman]

I don't quite get the pick up appeal TBH.

 

I do.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/daihatsu-f55-truck-pick-up-/190902619610

[Ghosty]

What Wat said about X5s is what Clarkson said about the X3 on Top Gear. The point was, it was crap on and off road, and for the same price you could get a 525D Touring or a high-spec Defender 110 pickup.

[phil_lihp]

There's a "working" version of the L200 that looks ok. It has steel wheels and no bling, I saw a transporter load of them heading up north last week.

 

I drove around in one of these for a day, the garage had run out of loan cars so I got handed the keys to a new black farmyard-spec one.  I have to say, with windy windows and absolutely no toys or garish adornments whatsoever, it changed my opinion of them somewhat, it was great fun.  With a towbar bolted to a massive iron girder on the back, it was longer than most parking spaces I tried to fit it in and it rolled like a galleon in a force 9 gale when hustled through roundabouts at anything other than walking pace but it had tonnes of space and plenty of torquey power.  Still ugly though, pickups definitely look better with boxy styling.

[oman5]

regardless of how good or not it might be, the X5 is at the end of the day a BMW. and I despise BMW. they have been taking the piss with prices for years, calling the UK "treasure island" because people will pay stupid money for some basic spec shitheap 4 pot 3 series that's no better than an escort simply because it has a BMW badge. In MY opinion they bumraped Rover, cherry picking the only bits worth anything when they dumped it off.

I don't consider BMW to be a premium brand, unless you buy a top of the range one,(which will depreciate quicker than anything known to man) I don't see them as any better than any other brand, certainly no more durable,and certainly not worth a premium price. the 1 series for example is a 14k car that they manage to sell for 20+. The epitomy of "buying for the badge".

And that's before we get into the stereotype BMW driver. 

[mercrocker]

I reckon about 1 in 10 are useful. They (useful) are driven by checked shirt wearing fence repair company owners and are usually covered in mud/shit. The others (non-useful) are usually owned by slack jawed morons with chrome 'ANMAL BASTARD MEGLOMANIAC' stickers, 97" chrome wheels and fat, idiotic families onboard, towing a jet ski to some unspoilt coastal resort to ruin it for everybody else. 

Well said - I live near a beach and have been taking my autoshite there since I was fif...err seventeen officer.   No class of road user over the last 36 years has annoyed me there as much as those COX

[phil_lihp]

But it's the same mentality as the Apple logo - people will queue around the block and pay a large premium to own it without being able to realistically justify it beyond the brand.  Some companies have managed, mostly through excellent marketing, to create a brand which instantly makes the product it's attached to massively desirable and (in the eyes of many) highly valued.  There's no logic to it, it's the modern human condition.

[dollywobbler]

If you want a pick-up, why not a Great Wall Steed?

 

See quite a few of them around here, though farmers don't yet seem convinced. Also see a lot of personal plates around here, but that's genuinely to make it easier to spot your friends I think. They don't seem to have much trouble spotting me in my random old shite though...