The irrational hatred thread

[Negative Creep]

I can not believe that nobody has mentioned that utter twatwagon, the BMW X6.

 

 

Probably because theres nothing irrational about hating them

[Guest]

[RoadworkUK]

Mercedes CLC,

 

Renault "shakin' that ass" Megane,

 

BMW X3 and X1 (but, oddly, not X5 or X6),

 

Ford Fusion,

 

Subaru Impreza,

 

Vauxhall Nova 1.0 Fling with undeclared C20XE Redtop that "still says 1.0 on log book so cheap insurance wink wink:-)"

[chaseracer]

Those hideous Porsche 4x4's.

 

Anything with bling shit.

 

Anything (other that a racing car) with a wing.

 

Anything with floorpan lighting.

 

Anything lowered for other than sound engineering reasons.

 

Anything with a sound system audible from space.

Of those criteria, my mate's 2CV satisfies 2, 4, 5 and 6...

[Pete-M]

 

Ford Probes - simply for being wrong. The V6 ones actually went pretty well, and gripped very well, but they still managed to be crap somehow.

 

An insane number of Japanese cars. Just for being so competant, reliable, etc yet they're so mind-numbingly bland and average at the same time, and not in a Autoshitey amusingly beige way - I do like some Jap cars, MX5s, early Celicas - and brown Celica Supras, Toyota Crowns, lots of Subarus, but the mainstream stuff is dull as.

 

Tiny engines in big cars is another thing I'll never understand. Take the E34 BMW 518 as an example. BMW's most ludicrous idea. Build a reasonable size car, build it well, make it handle and ride decently. Sell it through a plate glass 'n' chrome showroom where hairgelled salesmen in knock off Armani suits sell it to hairgelled Fatty Arbuckle type junior management who order it in a spec to make it look like a 535i by ordering the same wheels. Opt for leather interior, front fogs, rear headrests, 'shadowline trim' and debadged... Then shove an engine in that has trouble in a 3 series half the size. Spend the rest of your life with the bonnet firmly shut hoping nobody sober asks for a lift, lying frantically about it's MPG figures because the bloke with the 525 is getting more MPG, his car actually moves in a headwind, and it doesn't sound like someone's replaced the sixpot with a magimix.

 

Cars ordered to 'repspec'. You know when reps get a certain amount of money to play with and they can only order a few of the options they want and they get it horrendously wrong? Those cars. I've driven an 850 TDi 4x4 auto estate with leather trim, plastic steering wheel, no wood or a/c, steel wheels, windy windows and a tape deck, but with metallic turquoise paint and the 850R tailgate and chin spoilers. It was brand new. It was like a toddler had been clicking random boxes on an order form and Volvo actually built it.

 

Chap I know spent his 'left over before hitting the limit' money on Merc E-class options. £400 on an "Additional lighting pack" - lights in the doors and footwells, basically. £50 on funky cupholders. £200 odd on front foglamps. £200ish on headlamp washers. £400ish for the rear window blinds.

 

It was only on the way home he realised it had a tape deck.

[alf892]

BMW 1 series ALL

Most 3 series

BMW X6

 

However have always liked the X5.....old and new........

 

Audis seem to have taken on BMW's image problem.....but more due to the drivers than the vehicles??

 

Nearly forgot the one I hate most..........the Pious

[John F]

Citroen Picasso.

 

They're cheap, practical and well-equipped, but UTTERLY hideous to look at (like the fat, stupid bastards that invariably drive them). I'll turn off rather than follow one, and if I see one in my rear-view mirror I'll flick the mirror to its anti-dazzle setting. If I see one coming the other way I'll give it the middle finger.

 

I can't express enough how much I detest these cars.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

with hairgelled salesmen in knock off Armani suits

 

518i's weren't that bad. But the underbonnet view was laughable because the mill was mounted so far forward you could see most of the gearbox. Most of them were cloth spec with cross spokes, not a bad tram. I was surprised at how well they went for a big lump with a small motor - very torquey with ideal gearing. They'll buzz along at 90 okay but they're a bit of a hill finder.

 

They sold well due to to the sub 1800cc company car tax. They dropped it in the mid nineties i thing, and there was no more 518i.

[flat4alfa]

Any car Christopher Biggins sits in.

[Roc24v]

 

Ford Probes - simply for being wrong. The V6 ones actually went pretty well, and gripped very well, but they still managed to be crap somehow.

 

Wrong they may be, being a Mazda MX-6 with a Ford badge, crap they sure aren't (the V6 at least). I love mine, bought it because everyone else hated it (perfect shite).

[Pete-M]

 

Ford Probes - simply for being wrong. The V6 ones actually went pretty well, and gripped very well, but they still managed to be crap somehow.

 

Wrong they may be, being a Mazda MX-6 with a Ford badge, crap they sure aren't (the V6 at least). I love mine, bought it because everyone else hated it (perfect shite).

 

It is the irrational hatred thread.

 

It's probably because they were the first thing Ford came up with to replace the Capri. I like Capris, I like their RWDiness and the look of proper ones. I don't like the majority of Jap cars, or the interiors in most Yank stuff (My Heep included) so the idea of replacing the iconic Capri with a FWD Mazda with a Yank / Jap interior and then calling it "PROBE" was never going to appeal to me. I've driven a few Probes and they're not bad cars, they just don't do it for me, and the interior is crap.

[John F]

I've thought of another one: the London Taxi.

 

I don't like anything about them, but have no idea why.

[triang1]

 

Cars ordered to 'repspec'. You know when reps get a certain amount of money to play with and they can only order a few of the options they want and they get it horrendously wrong?

 

Ah the sales rep's battle to win the car park wars...

 

Knew a guy once who would give his right arm for a BMW 3 series ragtop - he could *just* get a 318 convertible on his allowance with absoloutley no extras at all.

 

Fair enough. But when anyone asked what car he had he always said " a BMW 3" neatly airbrushing out the '18' bit ( well not so neatly since nobody called them a 'BMW Three' so everyone said "What a 3 Series? 320, 325?". To which he said "er yea..." and tried to change the subject.)

 

Strange as he was an allright bloke otherwise - tryinging to cover up the fact it wasn't top of the range made him look like a pratt.

[BMC Dan]

Mk1 Ford Mustang, I can see the attraction what with them being a landmark in American car history but just get fed up with seeing vast amounts of them owned by monied up 30-something IT consultant types at shows.

[richardthestag]

This isn't going well so far, I have had a Micra K12 and my Mondeo has blacked out rear windows...

 

It's ok I have a stag, I also hate it sometimes but love it most of the time The mrs drives a Picasso badly . you think it is going badly for you?

 

my general rational hatred is directed at;

 

Pious owners, santimonious twats. Never ever let them out into traffic.

 

I used to hate vulva 340's with a passion so much so that if I saw one parked while walking home from the pub I would try puke on it. Not my proudest moment I know. they seem so rare now that when I see one I wonder how come it is still going.

 

BMW 1 series get on my tits

 

X6 I just do not understand so ignore without too much difficulty. TBH I hate the whole Bimmer X range but specicially the x3 that would struggle with most drop kerbs.

 

Any wanker who drives a scooby/Evo and thinks he is colin mcrae, chilternshite is full of the dopey drug dealer pillocks who all think they are soooo ard and drive like cunts. I would happily bale every single one of the hateful pieces of shite with their chav owners still inside.

 

BUT absolutely all of my irrational hatred is directed for one weekend in June at Diesel LPM1 endurance cars racing at Le Mans . Fuckers are killing motorsport IMHO - very fast and silent. no fun at all and serious bits of petrol kit are absolutely no competition to them.

[Guest]

I have a bit of a love-hate thing going on for the Mazda MX-5. Mainly because I was on the receiving end of a deranged bout of abuse (which included several hate-filled PMs) from an owner on NSJC. I dared to criticise because I drove a pair of Miatas in the States and thought they were crap. I said so, he took the comments personally and I ended up responsible for the only thread lock in NSJC's short history.

 

Like many cars, it seems to be the owners that do the damage. MX-5s seem to either fall into the OMG TYTE YO DROP AND STICKER brigade, or 40 year old dullards who blather on endlessly about having a 'modern Lotus Elan' that can 'outhandle anything'. I've seen a battered 1600 Primera rip the arse out of a Roadster, and it was apparently in good fettle.

 

Next, we have the VW Golf, Marks 3 through 6. Like iPhones, they're everywhere, and two-thirds of the population seem convinced by their brilliance and \ or superiority. I've never reallu undestood the fuss. Their accolytes blather on endlessly about how good they are, but can never seem to define what makes them worth the premium. I would like it explaining, because I've driven several and really struggle to get it.

 

Most SUVs, really. Especially the Range Rover Sport. I'm sick of the way they get driven - aggressively - and the way that people seem to think they're beautiful and luxurious when in reality they're a pig ugly amalgam of a breeze block and a skip welded to the base measurements of a Discovery 3. I also despise the way their lights always fucking blind you if a Sport is [inevitably] hammering along in the opposite direction.

 

I live in an area that's full of off roaders, almost always being used to drop the kids off at prep school \ block the road whilst the idiot owners have a chat \ take up two or three spaces in the car park and never for their intended purpose. I don't understand why you'd pay more for a car that goes, stops and handles worse than an estate car, can carry less and will cost more to insure. The majority of them aren't even good in the couple of months of OMG SNOW CHAOS we get, the Range Rover excepted.

 

Utterly, utterly pointless. But especially the Range Rover Sport. Hateful pieces of shit.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

 

Any wanker who drives a scooby/Evo and thinks he is colin mcrae, chilternshite is full of the dopey drug dealer pillocks who all think they are soooo ard and drive like cunts. I would happily bale every single one of the hateful pieces of shite with their chav owners still inside.

 

I feel your anger. We have a Subaru problem here as well, tattoed meatheads in 2 grand Imprezels with big zorsts and dump valves making a sodding nuisance of themselves. There's one that comes down my road - a small residential street - absolutely flat out. I've not yet found out which of the many meatheads owns/drives the thing, but when I do, it will be getting a polite note not to use this street ever again, araldited to the screen. Failure to comply will result in a late night visit from my friend Dot (4).

[andrew e]

Shouldn't this be the irrational Jealousy thread?

 

Oh and anything with gold badges.

[Andrew353w]

Great thread, everyone! Are your hatreds irrational? I think not! Mine are broadly similar to most already posted:

 

ANY BMW (except 1602 & 2002 ones from the 1960-70's) not because of their lack of engineering excellence, but because of the way (most of them) are driven. Perhaps all BMWs should be made with a sticker that reads "actually I DO own the road!" stuck on the rear panel. On that point, when I was a child I thought ALL Citroen 2CV's left the factory with "nuclear power-no thanks!" sticker stuck on them.... Apparently not; the owners added them....

 

Any car that's been "pimped"-can't stand that!

 

All Japanese grey imports, as I hate those stupid near-side wing mirrors, badly fitted rear fog lamps and the equally daft rear mirrors over the rear window.

 

Any car whose owner feels the need to buy a "cherished" number plate but then needs to alter a number "4" to an "A", a "7" for a "I" or a "2" for a "Z" etc. etc. etc.

 

Silly "slogans" on the number plate, where the dealer's name normally goes.

 

Suspiciously large amounts of stuff hanging from the interior mirror and decorated tissue boxes on the rear shelf (usually on a Mercedes, strangely....)

 

Am I normal or mad?

[warren t claim]

Don't blame the cars in this list! Blame the owners!

[John F]

Uh oh... I can feel a rant coming on...

 

Don't blame the cars in this list! Blame the owners!

 

Why? The Picasso is a turd of the road, an exercise in aesthetic villainy and soul-destroying A-to-B-ness that it should never, ever have left the drawing board.

 

In fact, the sadistic anti-aesthete that drew it on the drawing board should have been instantly beaten to death with the drawing board, which should then have been smashed to pieces & the shards soaked in acid before being kicked up his arse whilst he was still warm.

 

I'm happy to blame the owners as well - they bought the nasty fecking things, after all! - but in fairness they're just idiotic, blind or stingy punters, they didn't design and build 'em.

[ProgRocker]

Apologies in advance as I know that there are some Renault fans on here but I cannot abide the R14. Same goes for the Talbot Horizon. Horrid.

[Parky]

Unoriginal, but:

 

Audi Q7's

 

BMW X3 / X5 / X6

 

Porsche Cayenne

 

Sodding Mitsubishi L200 Animal whatever the fuck they are THEY'RE FOR FARMERS NOT NAIL BEAUTICIANS WHO CANT SEE OVER THE FUCKING WHEEL

 

Basically 4x4;s that arent Land Rovers. Oh, and Peugeot 1007 slidy door bollocks. Look stupid and weigh more than the moon.

 

Sorry for profanity, rough day!

[Pete-M]

Basically 4x4;s that arent Land Rovers.

 

Meh.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Uh oh... I can feel a rant coming on...

 

Don't blame the cars in this list! Blame the owners!

 

Why? The Picasso is a turd of the road, an exercise in aesthetic villainy and soul-destroying A-to-B-ness that it should never, ever have left the drawing board.

 

In fact, the sadistic anti-aesthete that drew it on the drawing board should have been instantly beaten to death with the drawing board, which should then have been smashed to pieces & the shards soaked in acid before being kicked up his arse whilst he was still warm.

 

I'm happy to blame the owners as well - they bought the nasty fecking things, after all! - but in fairness they're just idiotic, blind or stingy punters, they didn't design and build 'em.

 

Whenever I see a Picarsehole or a Megane, I feel depressed. I think of dozy 'HELLO!" reading fat arsed housewives and miserable family blokes with said fat arsed bint, 2 brats and trips to Asda. These two shitheaps represent the end of the world, basically.

[Parky]

I'll get me coat.....

[Mr Lobster]

I have a bit of a love-hate thing going on for the Mazda MX-5.

 

You're not the only one.

 

I had to nip to France and back in January, Toledo was waiting for engine mount doing so I borrowed Ma_Lobstas MX5 (didn't want to pay the extra £100 to take the Sprinter on the ferry)

 

I know they are not a big car and on dry, sunny country roads they can be good fun but on motorways they are utterly awful. Apart from being noisy and cramped I was amazed at the rapacious appetite for fuel. Even driven reasonably (75ish on the motorway) it was only doing 27mpg. Apparently this is normal

[theorganist]

Apologies in advance as I know that there are some Renault fans on here but I cannot abide the R14.

 

A plaque upon your house!!

 

Whenever I see a Picarsehole or a Megane, I feel depressed. I think of dozy 'HELLO!" reading fat arsed housewives and miserable family blokes with said fat arsed bint, 2 brats and trips to Asda. These two shitheaps represent the end of the world, basically.

 

I do partly agree with you however the Megane Scenic is the only type of car my disabled can get in and out of now. Normal cars are too low down and 4 x 4's would be to high!

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

 

I do partly agree with you however the Megane Scenic is the only type of car my disabled can get in and out of now. Normal cars are too low down and 4 x 4's would be to high!

 

Bugger. One has put one's foot in it, again.

[richardthestag]

Uh oh... I can feel a rant coming on...

 

Don't blame the cars in this list! Blame the owners!

 

Why? The Picasso is a turd of the road, an exercise in aesthetic villainy and soul-destroying A-to-B-ness that it should never, ever have left the drawing board.

 

In fact, the sadistic anti-aesthete that drew it on the drawing board should have been instantly beaten to death with the drawing board, which should then have been smashed to pieces & the shards soaked in acid before being kicked up his arse whilst he was still warm.

 

I'm happy to blame the owners as well - they bought the nasty fecking things, after all! - but in fairness they're just idiotic, blind or stingy punters, they didn't design and build 'em.

 

Whenever I see a Picarsehole or a Megane, I feel depressed. I think of dozy 'HELLO!" reading fat arsed housewives and miserable family blokes with said fat arsed bint, 2 brats and trips to Asda. These two shitheaps represent the end of the world, basically.

 

Oi I resembled that comment

 

as for soul destroying a-b ness, isn't that reflected in the entire Vauxhall range since the mid 1990's, VW Golfs mk3's and beyond, anything after mk3 escroat etc etc etc? In fact there is not much that isn't a-b soul destroying that has been created in the last 20 odd years

 

Believe me that there is a world more shite on the road at the turn of the millenium when I had a load of fun bringing 3 little thestags into this world and needed something to transport them around in. The trusty family 1.8 Picasso served us well for many years and was one of only two cars at that time which had three full sized seats across the back, not for fat arses but baby seats and a boot big enough for all the crap that goes with kids. the other at the time was an e-class merc estate and i just didn't fancy chucking all that money on a car. older shite didn't have centre 3 point seatbelts so hobsons choice really. blind, idiotic, stingey?

 

Nah, tbh on top of the tardis like capacity, 4 star euro ncap rating, reliable, tough hose out interior, didn't give a shit what it looked like from the outside so not bothered really. the biggest problem with the picasso was the meteoric depreciation. but still cost us about a millionth of the cost of running that e-calss estate over the same timeframe - and I'll bet that it would have spent a shed load less time at the main stealers too

 

btw she has a c4 grand picasso now which I also quite like bits of it are packaged very well but some of it is made out of bone china which is a bit shity.

 

roll me back to 2001 and would I do it again. you bet yo lilly white phat ass.