Scrappage storage... look and weep !

[nottinghamphil]

Hi all

I hope the link works, 1000s of vehicles from the scrappage scheme just rotting on an airfield.... take a look

http://www.urbexforums.co.uk/showthread ... March-2011

[Guest]

Crumbs, some bell-end put a Suzuki Cappuccino in? What a brain donor.

[Guest]

 

[dollywobbler]

Oooh, I can feel the anger again! Given how many thousands of cars got destroyed in Japan, you can't help thinking that a field full of working, MOTd cars wouldn't be quite a nice donation once the country is recovering.

 

I do hate reminders of just how f*cking stupid and wasteful the general public is. What's the point in recycling my kitchen scraps when people are prepared to scrap MOTd cars?

[ashmicro]

I hate that too, but well done to the UrbEx guys for going there. Interesting that the comments on that site reflect ours.

[retrogeezer]

Fucking stupid! Most of the cars that were sold as a result of this scheme were manufactures overseas and did fuck all for our economy other than boost dealership profits..... Why didn't they offer an incentive to keep old cars on the road? All the energy that was spent making them is locked in the vehicle and most of them are perfectly roadworthy. instead huge resources were needed to make new cars that didn't really need to be made!

 

Couldn't have put it better myself....

[Negative Creep]

Dear whoever traded in the Range Rovers, A35 and Cappuccino: I hope your Picanto has broken down continuously on you and you failed to keep up the payments so had it repossessed

[trigger]

Photo's like this make me sick.

[ProgRocker]

Very sad to see. What a waste.

 

5th picture from the end - That black Jag S Type looks like more than a £2k car to me, as do the 3 XJs behind it.

 

Dear whoever traded in the Range Rovers, A35 and Cappuccino: I hope your Picanto has broken down continuously on you and you failed to keep up the payments so had it repossessed

 

I hope the Picantos don't break down too frequently - I think that this may be my next car.

[Angrydicky]

Poor A35 - another one bites the dust

[HillmanImp]

5th picture from the end - That black Jag S Type looks like more than a £2k car to me, as do the 3 XJs behind it.

 

The S Type would not have been over 10 years old so could not be scrappage? Or was it on the cusp, what was the cut off, T reg? I dont recall seeing any T reg, but then again, whilst writing this I am thinking maybe they were that old.

 

*edit* Thats a Discovery 2 there as well. That definately cant have been old enough.

[eddyramrod]

Doesn't mean I agree with scrappage though.

 

It would be an insanely brave man who came on this forum and admitted he DID agree with that fucking scam. I can't help thinking that even before he'd read the next posting, some of us would have tracked him down and dealt with him.

 

Scrappage is the work of the devil and MUST be stamped out wherever it rears its ugly head. (Nailing my colours firmly to the mast here....)

[Lord Sterling]

What a damn shame and an utter waste. A sick reminder, I think, of how wasteful our society has become. Even if some of these dont work they could've still provided useful spares to keep other cars going. I spy a couple of K11 facelift Micras for example, I could really do with some parts for mine.

[trigger]

I remember seeing a T reg Micra 1.3 with air con and only 33000 miles that had gone in for scrappage at a local Kia garage.

[morris_ital_lover]

Doesn't mean I agree with scrappage though.

 

It would be an insanely brave man who came on this forum and admitted he DID agree with that fucking scam.

I agree with it... LOL Joke.

 

The scrappage scheme sums up modern day life, people are driven to give up USABLE cars on the basis that they want something new and exciting (presumaly with an XFACTA/insert ridiculous timewasting programme features thrown in) and can find a sense of warm gratification in the fact that they have got rid of "an old smoker" and are as a result saving the environment.

 

Only in the west would we even think up such an outrageously SHIT idea, across the world we don't have enough resources and energy supplies are dwindling, what do we do go and blow a half of it on drive based cock measuring projects. Although the Americans as usual managed to take not only the biscuit but the super large milkshake, with fries and a super size burger to go with it with their Cash for Clunkers, hey nation in debt why don't you go and spunk another $10-20,000 on a car you will never ever actually be able to pay for.

 

The ONLY sense that I saw in that line-up was the black cabs, if you are a cabby with a ropey cab by all means take advantage on this ridiculous debt increasing scheme.

 

Not wishing to dive too far into the realms of politics but... New Labour consistently sought to beef up their manufacturing image just before the general elections e.g. giving rover some paltry bailout that meant they would all vote labour but be unemployed by Chrimbo and secondly this scheme which meant they could run into election with some fat, scottish, patronising, ball licking, grumpy, boring, staff abusing, sham-marriage, prick who couldn't even smile lecturing us on how new labour was good for the manufacturing base (not that any party under the sun these days would recognise where money needs to be spent, how to spend it WTF they are doing with themselves).

 

In 30 years time half of the cu-nts who put us in this position, yes Mandelson I'm looking at you - if ever there was someone coming up with shit ideas it was him, will be dead. Us who are left will be sitting in a country on its knees slowly bleeding power to China and becoming the laughing stock of the world - all because some cu-nts wanted to win an election. (And no Hirst apparently New Labour forgot to save their Sims game back in 1997 so we're stuck in this forever).

 

(this really should have gone into the grumpy thread)

 

Yours,

 

The disgruntled, soon to be unemployed, youth of Britain

[Guest]

It makes me want to live in some sort of developing country, the sort where people just hang off the side of bashed-up old minibuses and drive completely knackered old nails without thinking about it. Imagine how stress-free it would be, just getting in your bashed-up old Violet and parking it diagonally across the road whilst you go into a shop, no one giving a crap about it. The sort of place where if you ran someone over and killed them, there wouldn't be a big police investigation, it'd just be assumed they probably shouldn't have been there. Where a scrappage scheme would be viewed as completely pointless as the only people who can afford to waste money on new cars are corrupt state officials and in any case, why replace one car with another one? That one works just fine. Yeah the exhaust is missing, but who gives a toss? It's a car and it moves.

[gtd2000]

I hope your Picanto has broken down continuously on you

Unlikely - it was deemed the UK's most reliable small car in 2010

 

I bought a used one for my mum almost 3 years ago and think it's a cracking little car overall - and the brakes are something to behold too!

 

Been driving a KIA Forte for the past two weeks and each time I get in another car I think the brakes must have failed or have a major problem - the brakes really are astonishingly good in the Picanto and Forte models I've driven!

[Cavcraft]

I hope we're not getting into politics here as some of us may not have particulary charitable views of the current government and it's desire to lob as many people as possible onto the scrap heap.

 

 

As said previously on this thread, the whole scrappage scheme was a bit of a joke. I could understand it if they kept it to cars manafactured in Britain, it'd temporarily boost the output of factories and keep 'us' in work.

Here's another thought though: if this country is so far in debt why don't they auction these cars off? Seriously like, it can't be too hard for the DiVLAds to sort out new V5s and they'd get a decent amount of wonga knocking these cars out, even if a lot of them only went to scrapyards or got weighed in. That way lots of people would benefit.

[autofive]

what i havent read in this thread. so far, is the dirty deals done by car dealers who weighed in their stagnant forecourt stock via the scrappage scheme. not all of the cars you see in the pics will be from customers buying a new car under the scheme.

[Angrydicky]

From a purely financial point of view, I don't see anything in those pictures which is guaranteed to be over £2k even if suffering major faults (don't know about Morris Minors though).

 

However, since the polis seem incapable of finding stolen cars what if a few of these were to disappear from that airfield and some distressed owners were to "find" their cars again.

 

The Morris is a circa 1956 split screen, looks in good condition and certainly the backs of the front wings aren't packed full of filler, which is the first sign of a ropey Minor. Assuming the mechanicals are ok, it's got to be worth £1500-£1750 with MOT?

 

However, since the polis seem incapable of finding stolen cars what if a few of these were to disappear from that airfield and some distressed owners were to "find" their cars again.

 

Well that is a good idea. Judging by the amount of people who've been for a stroll round that airfield, including vandals by the look of it, security must be a joke. It would probably be quite easy to 'liberate' the A35 and Minor, not that I am condoning this sort of behaviour of course

[Alexg]

what i havent read in this thread. so far, is the dirty deals done by car dealers who weighed in their stagnant forecourt stock via the scrappage scheme. not all of the cars you see in the pics will be from customers buying a new car under the scheme.

 

Really? Because I'm not sure how this would be of any benefit to a dealer?

 

It would also be impossible to do. The scheme was heavily regulated and audited. If a new car was registered and the owners details did not match those of the keeper of the scrap car all £2000 was withdrawn from the dealer...

[autofive]

what i havent read in this thread. so far, is the dirty deals done by car dealers who weighed in their stagnant forecourt stock via the scrappage scheme. not all of the cars you see in the pics will be from customers buying a new car under the scheme.

 

Really? Because I'm not sure how this would be of any benefit to a dealer?

 

It would also be impossible to do. The scheme was heavily regulated and audited. If a new car was registered and the owners details did not match those of the keeper of the scrap car all £2000 was withdrawn from the dealer...

 

oh it happened alright - and on a massive scale

[Alexg]

How though? And who and how did any dealer benefit?

[fiatdaft]

zzzzzzzzzzzz usual scrappage nonsense.

[autofive]

How though? And who and how did any dealer benefit?

 

they all benefitted by ridding themselves of dead stock and selling new motors

[fiatdaft]

i find that very hard to believe,how many new car dealers had sub 2k stock that they couldn't get rid of? and how did they process the paperwork with the manufacturer?

[Station]

A horrible sight! All for the pursuit of 'keeping up with the Jones's'.

[Alexg]

How though? And who and how did any dealer benefit?

 

they all benefitted by ridding themselves of dead stock and selling new motors

 

Sorry to keep calling you on this but appart from the logistical side of things the maths just doesnt add up. Firstly scrappage isn't necessary to register cheap cars. In most cases main dealers could probably register a car to themselves for less than they could offer one on scrappage due to demo, fleet or 'pack' terms available from the manufacturer. Secondly main dealers will rarely carry stock that retails at 2k. For that to be possible they would need it to owe them at least half of that, so if it were to be fragged you've just lost half you're scrappage saving.

[ProgRocker]

5th picture from the end - That black Jag S Type looks like more than a £2k car to me, as do the 3 XJs behind it.

 

The S Type would not have been over 10 years old so could not be scrappage? Or was it on the cusp, what was the cut off, T reg? I dont recall seeing any T reg, but then again, whilst writing this I am thinking maybe they were that old.

 

*edit* Thats a Discovery 2 there as well. That definately cant have been old enough.

 

It may have been an early S Type as the came out in 1999 (T reg, maybe even S reg), about the same time as the Rover 75, so just qualified on Scrappage if it was an early one.

 

Cant comment on the Discovery 2.

[overheadvalve]

I hope your Picanto has broken down continuously on you

Unlikely - it was deemed the UK's most reliable small car in 2010

 

I bought a used one for my mum almost 3 years ago and think it's a cracking little car overall - and the brakes are something to behold too!

 

Been driving a KIA Forte for the past two weeks and each time I get in another car I think the brakes must have failed or have a major problem - the brakes really are astonishingly good in the Picanto and Forte models I've driven!

 

Yeah right. Please excuse me for finding this difficult to believe but Kia build average cars (at best) with bloody fantastic brakes? It is more likely you are usually driving a shed around with knackered brakes.

I was "fortunate" enough to drive a Kia Picanto whislst on holiday last year and it was nothing outstandind at all.

It was a hire car but i didn't thrash it i'm 50 years old so i simply don't thrash cars these days and in the interests of keeping an open mind i was doing my best to be fair, the economy was not good it was at best slightly below average for the type of car. I didn't even have the aircon on because the economy was not good enough. The only notable thing about the car was the mass expanse of cheap grey and black plastic. Oh and it was silver. The headlights were quite good, bright etc and the seat was reasonably comfortable for short journeys.

Fair opinion, i do not work in the motor trade and have no axe to grind.