When did you last see a C4 Coupe?

[alcyonecorporation]

I asked our man with the Loeb/Loab if I could take a picture of it this evening. 

He told me to fuck off. 

[FakeConcern]

On 29/10/2025 at 22:06, Brigsy said:

I honestly don't recall seeing one on the road. They dont look too shite tbh

It's a bit crazy that they weren't more popular given how close the roadgoing Coupe and especially VTS looks to the amazingly successful rally winning C4

It would also have been better if they'd fitted a more powerful engine than the EW10J4S  from the Peugeot 206 GTI with 180bhp, it was well behind the then new Focus ST and Golf Mk5 GTI both with turbos.and over 200bhp, even if it did rev to 7500rpm.

 

As a normally aspirated engine a remap didn't make much difference so some people managed to fit a V6 from the Xantia and various Peugeots

I saw this at couple of French Car Shows in about 2012-15, but can't find my pics now

It is still on PissedOnHeads

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=47&t=1137588

The later facelift VTS was fitted with the 1.6 turbo THP engine, best not mention it really...

I also know there was an engineering company making a supercharger kit for the EW10J4S , but I only ever saw it fitted in a 206 GTI.

All in all it's a shame that the C4 VTS is all but forgotten except in an obscure forum about crap cars!

 

[Brigsy]

Im sure ive seen pics of a v6 converted one.

Rally rep would look ace, especially with a turbo or supercharged 180 engine.

[High Jetter]

On 29/10/2025 at 21:04, FakeConcern said:

Here are the most recent pics I have of my daughter's VTS, one of only 45 on UK roads!

 

 

How does she feel about that plate?

[FakeConcern]

10 hours ago, Brigsy said:

Im sure ive seen pics of a v6 converted one.

Rally rep would look ace, especially with a turbo or supercharged 180 engine.

This outfit have done one rally rep

And are now doing another one which, I think is going to be like the Liam Doran Rally Cross car

The base car is one I saw plenty of times at shows and the owner used my Lexia a couple of times

 

[alcyonecorporation]

watch me win kitch's now 

[alcyonecorporation]

2 minutes ago, alcyonecorporation said:

watch me win kitch's now 

i don't want another bloody C4, my hilarious mate bought a ticket 
i'd have rather had mr haining's donkey 306 tbh

[FakeConcern]

On 01/11/2025 at 23:20, High Jetter said:

How does she feel about that plate?

No idea, should she feel something?

Anyway I changed the air and cabin filters plus the plugs to complete the service on daughter's VTS.

Amazingly she's seen another VTS 180 in Norwich and spoken to the owner

 

[High Jetter]

1 hour ago, FakeConcern said:

No idea, should she feel something?

Ignore me, my mind makes sideways, and sometimes broad, associations.

[FakeConcern]

On the other side of the road in Worthing

VTR+

[Mrcento]

On 01/11/2025 at 21:01, FakeConcern said:

It's a bit crazy that they weren't more popular given how close the roadgoing Coupe and especially VTS looks to the amazingly successful rally winning C4

Its problem was the Mk8 Civic.

It ticked all the same 'quirk' boxes (Bar the steering wheel, which a lot didn't like anyway). Was better built, had better engines and better gearboxes, an even more wacky dash, magic rear seats, triangular exhausts, push button start, and the 5dr looked like the 3dr (Unlike the C4 where the 5dr looked very frumpy). And the big thing as well, it DID cater for the performance market with the type R. The VTS C4 was no more than a warm hatch.

Only thing the Civic didn't really have in its advantage was being a bit more expensive to buy and the ride, i still maintain, is fucking abysmal. The C4 might be firm in Citroen standards, especially in VTS form, but it's still miles less crashy than even the ordinary cooking Mk8 Civic, that makes a billiard table surface feel like an assault course on an LR experience course.

[High Jetter]

1 hour ago, FakeConcern said:

On the other side of the road in Worthing

VTR+

Merely background, to the Spit.

[DVee8]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1511892429860577

2009 Citroën c4 lobe edition 1.6 turbo    £1,250

[FakeConcern]

1 hour ago, DVee8 said:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1511892429860577

2009 Citroën c4 lobe edition 1.6 turbo    £1,250

Wow a THP, I've been in one of these and really liked it despite (because of?) the Prince engine. Pretty rare anyway and can be mapped from 150bhp to over 200.

[FakeConcern]

23 hours ago, Mrcento said:

Its problem was the Mk8 Civic.

It ticked all the same 'quirk' boxes (Bar the steering wheel, which a lot didn't like anyway). Was better built, had better engines and better gearboxes, an even more wacky dash, magic rear seats, triangular exhausts, push button start, and the 5dr looked like the 3dr (Unlike the C4 where the 5dr looked very frumpy). And the big thing as well, it DID cater for the performance market with the type R. The VTS C4 was no more than a warm hatch.

Only thing the Civic didn't really have in its advantage was being a bit more expensive to buy and the ride, i still maintain, is fucking abysmal. The C4 might be firm in Citroen standards, especially in VTS form, but it's still miles less crashy than even the ordinary cooking Mk8 Civic, that makes a billiard table surface feel like an assault course on an LR experience course.

I agree with you on most of this, although I think the C4 Coupe is better looking than the FN2, I can't really see that the Honda interior looks anything at all as quirky as the C4s, but I'm only going by an internet search as I've not sat in one. The real problem is that Citroen should and could have made so much more of that rally heritage and just didn't do it either with the VTS 180 or the face lift Loeb THP. As you say the C4 is a warm hatch when the Golf GTI & Focus ST were a similar price, but much faster. Before I bought my 1st C4 VTS, I had the FN2 R on my short list, but it got ruled out as at the time I needed four seats.  

22 hours ago, High Jetter said:

Merely background, to the Spit.

I did take the pic to focus on the Spitfire, but it was a boring anachronism when that one was built whereas the C4 was very much avant garde. 

[Snipes]

There was an ex-WRC C4 at Lyddon Hill rallycross last weekend. 

 

[alcyonecorporation]

Didn't see the C4 poope this week at work

[batterypowered]

I'll admit I forgot these existed until watching HubNut's KA collection caper last week.

[FakeConcern]

I've just seen the Hubnut video review of the C4VTS

Unfortunately he doesn't really have time to discover that you have to really rev them to get the performance, he accelerates from 40mph in 3rd, but needs to be in 2nd...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BrC3QpoFZ0h/

Watch the rev counter go red FTW...

 

[alcyonecorporation]

A peaky engine in a heavy car really isn't ideal, but even I noticed he was short shifting, as if it was a long stroke OHV plodder.
Yes, you have to do the same in an EP3 Civic Type R...but a C4 VTS really isn't an EP3 Civic Type R. 

I bet you they did the cunt's trick of making first and second really short for the 0-60 dash (hello Saxo VTS, I see you, you scally shitbag) and then making 3-4-5 moonshot horse cock so they could use the diesel gearsets and save a packet. 

I was never that impressed with the EW; it just seemed like a cheaper, shittier way of moving on from the XU. 
It was telling that in motorsport, PSA still used the older engine, much like Subaru did with the EJ until very recently. 

[Imhotep]

On 12/11/2025 at 22:18, Mrcento said:

Its problem was the Mk8 Civic.

It ticked all the same 'quirk' boxes (Bar the steering wheel, which a lot didn't like anyway). Was better built, had better engines and better gearboxes, an even more wacky dash, magic rear seats, triangular exhausts, push button start, and the 5dr looked like the 3dr (Unlike the C4 where the 5dr looked very frumpy). And the big thing as well, it DID cater for the performance market with the type R. The VTS C4 was no more than a warm hatch.

Only thing the Civic didn't really have in its advantage was being a bit more expensive to buy and the ride, i still maintain, is fucking abysmal. The C4 might be firm in Citroen standards, especially in VTS form, but it's still miles less crashy than even the ordinary cooking Mk8 Civic, that makes a billiard table surface feel like an assault course on an LR experience course.

Biggest problem with the mk8 Civic in my experience is something much more boring. That daft split rear window on the back - top half that basically points at the sky, heated. Bottom bit you look out of, not heated. That and the seats reset to their original position if you fold them forwards on a 3 door model. And finally the start button. Maybe I’m nitpicking here but if I’ve put a key in and turned it already, why do I need an extra step to start the car? I’d get it if it was keyless. Good car but it’s let down by really strange design decisions. 

[dollywobbler]

Kitch did tell me I wasn't driving it properly...

[Snipes]

Found a really early picture of my old 1.6, probably the picture the seller sent over. It was really clean when I got it but a few years of sitting in it in building site clothes proper ruined it (that and a very unfortunate shaped lucozade stain on the passenger seat lol).

[High Jetter]

Ramsgate. Says a lot 😀

[FakeConcern]

[DVee8]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3071720932998330

@FakeConcern

[FakeConcern]

 

[alcyonecorporation]

i got a really shit pic of the C4 Coupe Loeb last night. 

[alcyonecorporation]

[FakeConcern]

Well luckily I didn't win the raffle for the youtube VTS and neither did my daughter!