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That would be most kind of you!  Many thanks!

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1 minute ago, eddyramrod said:

That would be most kind of you!  Many thanks!

I usually read the issue then, eventually they end up in the recycling bin! I’ll put this one in your box of diecast if you want. Or I can send it straight away? Up to you.

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I was also intrigued by the photo above Eddie's, the un-named guy on the right strikes a somewhat odd pose. I don't have online access to PC to copy it here though.

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4 hours ago, danthecapriman said:

I usually read the issue then, eventually they end up in the recycling bin! I’ll put this one in your box of diecast if you want. Or I can send it straight away? Up to you.

PM sent :) 

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Well that was fun*.

For some weeks, Handsome has been displaying warning messages on the dash, about the ABS and DSC.  I tried the garage at the end of my street but their tech can't talk to a Jag, apparently, so I went back to Martin, in Dalton; where I always went because he was handy for work (right across the road in fact).

His son read the codes and diagnosed a speed sensor at the NSR, so he replaced that today, which was a bit of a fight apparently.  So I've just got back from picking up the car, £180 lighter.... and halfway home the same error messages appeared on the dash.  Now I'm going back tomorrow, on a day when I've got quite enough to do already (three appointments).

Marvellous, as Dirty Harry said.

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On the X308 that used to pop up due to a problem on the ABS module. Needed a bit of solder running across it, not a massive job. 

Might have sorted it by your model but might be worth looking into. 

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Should be drivable with those codes up though. Just bear in mind no abs means it'll both lock the wheels and possibly not do brake force distribution. 

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33 minutes ago, SiC said:

Is the battery in good shape too?

Yes; spins it over like a good'un.

32 minutes ago, SiC said:

Should be drivable with those codes up though. Just bear in mind no abs means it'll both lock the wheels and possibly not do brake force distribution. 

Yes, that's almost exactly what Danny (garage near my house) said.  And indeed such has proven to be the case, I've been driving it with these messages up for a couple of weeks.  BUT it'll soon be September and I'll be wanting to fling it through MoT again.  ABS fault message?  Hmm, instant fail I suspect.

So, after my first appointment tomorrow I'll be driving over to Dalton and hoping I make it back into Barrow for the second.

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49 minutes ago, eddyramrod said:

BUT it'll soon be September and I'll be wanting to fling it through MoT again.  ABS fault message?  Hmm, instant fail I suspect.

I was just saying as you said you were really busy tomorrow with appointments and struggling to take it in. 

If the fault is cleared for the MOT and stays cleared long enough during the MOT, then it won't fail. 

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If you keep having trouble Eddie I can take a look for you. I've got the software to read each module so would be able to have a look. Perhaps the sensor has gone bad from a rusted ring damaging it. Not a difficult or expensive job to do! I do really like these X350s, they really went all out to fix the issues of old and did their best to keep them similar to the traditional XJ style in the world of modern safety etc.
The big point for me is the aluminium, I don't think I'm brave enough for the potential rot of a X308!

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Thank you!  And I agree with your summing-up of the car, especially having seen how an X308 can rot.  I've said to several people that it's the last proper Jag.

Meanwhile... Adam put the reader on it this morning and it showed up the OSR speed sensor.  He said it might just be the wiring to it, rather than an actual failed sensor.  I said I'll book it in when I'm back off hols.  He cleared the codes and so far it's behaving.

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On 4/17/2022 at 7:21 PM, HMC said:

Was great to meet you Eddie, hope I can to the Cadillac Justice as for me it’s one of THE vehicles of the forum. 
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HOW MUCH FOR UNLEADED ...... CHUFFIN 'ECK

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Well, it's a bit of a mystery.

I told the story in the Grumpy thread, of getting stranded at Chester Services on the M56 a couple of weeks ago because the dash threw up lights and messages warning me the air suspension was too low and faulty.  Mr RAC pinpointed the left front strut and indeed, that corner of the car was looking low.  A recovery truck was arranged and I arrived home a mere six hours later than intended.

Since then the car has sat in disgrace, in the Disabled space outside my house.  I've been using the Suzuki.

Today was the first day the garage at the end of my street could have it in to investigate, so I started it up for the first time since parking it.  As I've been doing for over a year, I let it sit and build up pressure in the suspension... and the front came up, as well as the back.  No lights on the dash, no messages.  How odd.  I got a phone call this afternoon.  Their scanner can't get into the system enough to check out the suspension.  So I'll have to try elsewhere, because I need to sort this out before the MoT, which is due in about four weeks.  I daren't just press it back into service, because the RAC won't think much of getting another call for the same fault inside a month.  So tomorrow I'll try another place.

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Could it just be one of those things that these do? A bit like Range Rovers and their air suspension throwing up random hissy fits and then fine normally.

If no lights and no messages on the dash, then it should pass?

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Well, it's a bit of a mystery.
I told the story in the Grumpy thread, of getting stranded at Chester Services on the M56 a couple of weeks ago because the dash threw up lights and messages warning me the air suspension was too low and faulty.  Mr RAC pinpointed the left front strut and indeed, that corner of the car was looking low.  A recovery truck was arranged and I arrived home a mere six hours later than intended.
Since then the car has sat in disgrace, in the Disabled space outside my house.  I've been using the Suzuki.
Today was the first day the garage at the end of my street could have it in to investigate, so I started it up for the first time since parking it.  As I've been doing for over a year, I let it sit and build up pressure in the suspension... and the front came up, as well as the back.  No lights on the dash, no messages.  How odd.  I got a phone call this afternoon.  Their scanner can't get into the system enough to check out the suspension.  So I'll have to try elsewhere, because I need to sort this out before the MoT, which is due in about four weeks.  I daren't just press it back into service, because the RAC won't think much of getting another call for the same fault inside a month.  So tomorrow I'll try another place.
If one corner is down more than usual then it probably has a leak but they can eject air randomly from time to time. I found driving the car up to 30mph reset this and always pumped up the car to normal ride height. Remember if you find yourself in or around Stockport I have some diag software I can plug in to see if it's throwing codes.
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I had mine for about 3 years and in that time had a couple of things crop up. It had an air suspension warning a couple of times so I fitted the upgraded piston ring to the compressor. Fixed the immediate problem.

Good idea to change the plugs…….the ones on the rh bank often get left as you need to remove the inlet manifold. Easy enough just a pain. If you leave them too long the gaps get so wide it kills the coil pack trying to jump it.

The battery died…….preceded by various error messages from several systems and culminating in it showing every amber message followed by every red one.

A speed sensor went on o/s/r……put up abs and transmission fault warnings…… but cheap and easy fix….decent sensor was under £30. 

A couple of times had epb fault. First couple of times just connections at wiring on rear axle……last one was internal break in wiring over axle which took a bit of finding.

For quite a while it had a very slight tremor through the steering……..I checked every joint and bush and found nothing. The cause only came to light when I took the rear suspension control valve off to clean and it couldn’t pick itself up afterwards. The cause was a fucked compressor ……it could supply enough air to keep the warning off when all it had to do was maintain a height but couldn’t start from nothing. With hindsight it also caused the tremour on a slightly rough road it would get out of breath. Fair to say the compressor transformed it.

lovely cars though

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OK, this morning I took Handsome to what is now usually my second-choice garage (because I'm no longer working right across the street from it!) but while their scanner could read the car, it couldn't read the suspension.  GR8.  I passed another garage on the way home, where I'm known for my taste in vehicles and banter is always a prospect, so on impulse I dropped in to see if they could read it.  It's too old for their scanner to read properly!  But the mechanic did point the finger at the OSF airbag, which effectively means it needs a whole new strut.  So back to ebay, and I've bought one, supposedly new, for under £200 delivered.  Let's see when it arrives.  First-choice garage (end of my street) can fit it, they can take it for MoT afterwards!

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That was interesting!

Garage at the end of my street has "ceased trading due to bereavement" and a sign outside refers customers to another garage on the main road, which coincidentally is where they took Handsome last year for MoT.  So now I'm doing the same, a week on Friday.  A sudden surge in business has filled the gaps in their diary, I wonder why?  They reckon do the test first, then fit the strut.  OK, if that's what they think, I'll go with it.

Regular readers may remember the garage across from the MoT station, where I took Hairy Pussy a few years ago for welding that didn't happen; that one closed soon after that event.  I mean... does my breath smell or something?

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Good luck with the MOT! Hopefully it’ll be a cake walk👍

Got mine tomorrow on the Volvo…

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34 minutes ago, eddyramrod said:

They reckon do the test first, then fit the strut.  OK, if that's what they think, I'll go with it.

My local garage often do that. Their excuse is for someone to not spend out a lot of money if there are a lot of other issues that could make it expensive/terminal to repair. 

I also suspect (maybe wrongly) that it gives them something to fail the car on and so they don't have too many passes on their MOT records. 

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Yes, that's about what I thought.  I suppose it's fair enough. 

Dan, good luck!

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8 hours ago, SiC said:

My local garage often do that. Their excuse is for someone to not spend out a lot of money if there are a lot of other issues that could make it expensive/terminal to repair. 

I also suspect (maybe wrongly) that it gives them something to fail the car on and so they don't have too many passes on their MOT records. 

When I was in the garage, if people came in for a service & MOT it was usually left for the MOT first then the service after providing the MOT wasn’t much trouble. 
People seemed to appreciate it if we found MOT fails and called them before doing the service so they weren’t forking out for everything. Quite often they’d go for MOT & repairs then either no service (do it later) or just an oil & filter to keep costs down.

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I guess it saves going on a ramp twice too. Once for the initial fix and the second for any MOT jobs.

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"Hello Handsome" might be turning into "RIP Handsome."

I've got a failure sheet here like a fucking Danielle Steel novel, it's like an inch thick!  Well that might be a slight exaggeration, but there's enough on it to be very Not Cheap.  The garage is seeing about parts prices for me but I can see a WeBuyAnyCrap in the near future.

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Hm.

WBAC says £1100 and change.  I think this might be the future.

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33 minutes ago, eddyramrod said:

Hm.

WBAC says £1100 and change.  I think this might be the future.

Will wbac buy it with a failed mot?

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1 minute ago, Jazoli said:

Will wbac buy it with a failed mot?

I don't know.  It actually runs out tomorrow but there isn't an option on their form for "1 day left."  Nearest option is "Under 1 month."  I have their page up with the offer but typically, haven't made the decision yet.  I think partly, I can't face clearing out the interior and boot.  I suppose I need to tell myself I have to.

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Doesn't look a terrible fail list. Back pads, tyres, air suspension strut, a few rubber boots and suspension arms. 

It's going to cost a bit to put right but can you find anything else you'd want for that money?

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Is it that bad? 

Vehicle Smart MOT data for JAGUAR ML04YVH

 

Failures:

• Nearside Rear Tyre has a tear, caused by separation or partial failure of its structure (5.2.3 (d) (ii)) - DANGEROUS

• Offside Rear Tyre has a tear, caused by separation or partial failure of its structure (5.2.3 (d) (ii)) - DANGEROUS

• Offside Rear Brake pad(s) less than 1.5 mm thick (1.1.13 (a) (ii)) - DANGEROUS

• Engine MIL inoperative or indicates a malfunction (8.2.1.2 (h)) - MAJOR

• Nearside Rear Lower Suspension arm pin or bush excessively worn (5.3.4 (a) (i)) - MAJOR

• Offside Rear Lower Suspension arm pin or bush excessively worn (5.3.4 (a) (i)) - MAJOR

• Offside Front Suspension unit damaged or deteriorated and function affected (5.3.5 (b) (i)) - MAJOR

• Nearside Front Track rod end ball joint dust cover excessively damaged or deteriorated so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt (2.1.3 (g) (ii)) - MAJOR

• Offside Front Track rod end ball joint dust cover excessively damaged or deteriorated so that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt (2.1.3 (g) (ii)) - MAJOR

• Nearside Rear Suspension arm ball joint dust cover no longer prevents the ingress of dirt track arm (5.3.4 (b) (ii)) - MAJOR

• Offside Rear Suspension arm ball joint dust cover no longer prevents the ingress of dirt track arm (5.3.4 (b) (ii)) - MAJOR

 

Advisories:

• Nearside Front Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))

• Offside Front Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))

• Offside Registration plate lamp inoperative in the case of multiple lamps or light sources (4.7.1 (b) (i)) - MINOR

• Nearside Obligatory mirror slightly damaged (3.3 (b) (i)) - MINOR

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