wuvvum Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Recently I've been finding myself toying more and more with the idea of selling my Volvo 164. I've owned it for 15 years, 10 of which it's spent off the road. I occasionally get a brief spurt of motivation and do a few bits to it, but generally it's spent most of that time sitting on my driveway gradually deteriorating, and frankly it deserves better. It's still mostly solid - the driver's side sill is a bit dodgy in places, and the area around the rear arch on that side is a bit fecked, but then it was getting bad when I bought the car 15 years ago, and there's a repair panel in the boot, as well as one for the spare wheel well. The paintwork is pretty shite though - the lacquer on the bonnet has gone really weird (I've been gradually removing it with a sponge, but it's a slow process and can only really be done when the car is damp), and it had a quick bottom half repaint about 10 years ago in household gloss just to tidy it up temporarily* (bottom half was mostly in primer when I bought it) as I wanted to take it to shows. Chassis is still sound as far as I'm aware; the last time I had to jack it up (a couple of years ago now) it lifted up OK on all four of its jacking points without making any ominous noises. It also has a crack in the windscreen, although that's not a major issue with it being MOT exempt. Interior is mostly all there but sadly the leather upholstery on the seats is fucked. Also the sunroof is missing its trim (the foam has more or less disintegrated anyway). The rest needs a bloody good clean, and the dash is partly in bits at the moment. Mechanically it starts on the button (it is a Volvo after all), and it moves OK under its own power (again, it's an old BW35 'box so would still work if it had spent the last ten years at the bottom of the sea). Power steering works too. There's no brakes apart from the handbrake though - it needs a front caliper (or the existing one rebuilding), but with the amount of time it's been stood I think the whole braking system would need an overhaul, and probably new discs as well (or at least a serious skimming of the existing ones). The essential electrics all work apart from the horns which have disintegrated. There's a dodgy earth on the NSR light cluster as well, but that's easily enough remedied. Oh, and the screen wash doesn't work at the moment - the original pump died, I fitted a universal replacement but had to nick it for something else. It has actually had some money spent on it in the last few years, believe it or not. It's had a brand new offside front brake caliper (an eBay bargain - sadly I haven't been able to find its opposite number at anything resembling a sensible price), a new water pump, a new (electric) fuel pump to replace the sadly deceased mechanical original, a new indicator stalk and a replacement (albeit secondhand) alternator. It's only an idea at the moment as it's going to be hard for me to sell it having owned it for so long, but I'm trying to get an idea of what it'd be worth if I did. The last few resto project 164s I've seen on the Bay have gone for what I consider to be daft money - I've always thought that old Volvo values (apart from the Amazons and P1800s of this world obvs) have been pretty low, but then I've seen the daft prices that 240s are starting to make so I'm not so sure. If I did sell it it'd be to raise some much needed cash, so if it's worth tuppence ha'penny it can stay on the drive for a while longer. Here's some pics of how it looks now to make me feel ashamed of myself. This is the proper dodgy bit: Inner sill is actually quite solid though, although my phone didn't quite manage to focus on it. somewhatfoolish, LightBulbFun, Bren and 7 others 10
danthecapriman Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Oh god! I absolutely love these. I need to avoid this thread! Best of luck if you do sell it though.
HMC Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 You could always try (whispers) eBay- maybe a classified ad and start it at what you’d perhaps think was optimistic- if it gets interest great, if not nae bother. The other, riskier but potentially way more hassle option would be as an auction- it would find its level but potentially a load of ball ache, as we all know all too well!
purplebargeken Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Most 'projects' on eBay seem to be around the £1000 to £2000 mark, however, they don't seem to be selling at all. This Volvo could go for anywhere between £800 to £1000 realistically.
Cavcraft Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Yeah, agree with Ken on suggested pricing. Personally I'd bang it on Car & Classic or CCW for £1395 though and see what happens. Amishtat and purplebargeken 2
Uncle Jimmy Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Not a lot, as I found out when I sold mine, although mine was pretty tidy, inside and out. Volvo prices, IMHO are all over the place, rightfully the 164 should be amongst the more valuable, yet they are, even in mint condition worth only £3-4k. 240s seem* to make more dough than their immediate forebears, can't see why myself.
wuvvum Posted April 2, 2019 Author Posted April 2, 2019 Not a lot, as I found out when I sold mine, although mine was pretty tidy, inside and out. Volvo prices, IMHO are all over the place, rightfully the 164 should be amongst the more valuable, yet they are, even in mint condition worth only £3-4k. 240s seem* to make more dough than their immediate forebears, can't see why myself. Well if I sell mine that's a sure-fire way to ensure the values start climbing exponentially. Uncle Jimmy and Crispian_J_Hotson 2
purplebargeken Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Well if I sell mine that's a sure-fire way to ensure the values start climbing exponentially. ^^ This applies to the entire population of autoshite. tooSavvy 1
tooSavvy Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 ^^^ ha ha ha.... I got *my 'price point' from TheDoctor!
wuvvum Posted April 2, 2019 Author Posted April 2, 2019 I was thinking probably around the £1200 mark as it is - consensus seems to be that that might be slightly optimistic but not completely pie in the sky. I certainly wouldn't bother selling it if it was going to make under a bag. Hmmm... Amishtat 1
purplebargeken Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 I guess it is worth trying at that price. Have to balance the reality of you fixing it all up any time soon, or will it just deteriorate further. Hard choice, don't envy you
Crispian_J_Hotson Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Ooo, ooo... I know how much it's wurth... ' as much as someone is willing to pay ' Yeah, I hate that phrase too...
sutty2006 Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Anything that’s tax exempt has increase in value ten fold. So if we recon it’s worth a oner, it’s probably worth a bag of sand.
Amishtat Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 Following this with interest as a fellow owner who's had occasional thoughts of selling..Doesn't look bad to me, I completely understand your reluctance.
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