invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[Christine]

Just now, Christine said:

That slalom gif , that gives the impression of good road holding .. They are skilled drivers . They're releasing the steering lock  just before the point of tipping over  ..The emergency stop video, i don't think thats good at all  either . Why on earth didn't they didn't put the single wheel at the rear though ? It would have been so much more stable , and with 2 contact patches , better braking , steering and road holding .

 

 

[warren t claim]

15 hours ago, plasticvandan said:

Some information from the time,in the interests of balance:

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/1 ... dTricycles

The Devon survey of 51 drivers showed that 95 per cent. of the drivers considered their three-wheelers to be unsafe in wind and dangerously under-powered on hills, that just under 4,000 miles a year was the average mileage, that the cars broke down, each year, on average 13 times, and that most of the drivers had families and relatives who could not share their social lives or activities because of the limitations of the one-seater three-wheelers. The general verdict from this section of the community was that they were unsafe, unreliable and anti-social.

I received a letter from someone who stated that he had driven over 50,000 miles in tricycles without an accident. He went on to say that he had achieved this record by never going out when it was windy or wet, and never driving on major open roads.

Apart from the official Government tests, several independent tests have been carried out. In July 1973 the Cranfield Institute of Technology discontinued swerve tests, owing to be dangers of overturning. Its staff refused to carry on.

I refer to the number of three-wheeled invalid tricycles which overturned while being manoeuvred into position at MIRA. There also finally came to light the answer to something which had puzzled many commentators for some time, and that was a much delayed admission that a three-wheeled invalid tricycle had overturned whilst being manoeuvered into position at MIRA. Unfortunately, the MIRA employees have not been allowed to talk about the accidents.

I don't think it's the question of wether Dez should drive it,just having a rose tinted attitude to them is not ideal.having a greater awareness of it's limitations will actually enable it to be piloted more effectively. I have done 100,000 miles in Reliants,until an accident 15 years ago made me hang up the FS keys for the last time,and the key things which kept me alive were: years of motorcycling experience(the cornering and braking techniques being very similar,and looking VERY far ahead for hazards,as immediate emergency avoidance is non existent on three wheels) an appreciation for the fact that I am only protected on the side by 1/4" of fibreglass, a fire extinguisher in the cab,as you have about 30 seconds to get out if they go up,and to never get complacent and forgrt what you are in,ie if you spot a brick in the road,dont centre the car on it to avoid it..yes I did that early on,snapped the a frame.

13 breakdowns in 12 months/4000 miles? 

Even as a former Laguna 2/P38 Range Rover owner I consider that unacceptable. 

[warren t claim]

12 minutes ago, warren t claim said:

13 breakdowns in 12 months/4000 miles? 

Even as a former Laguna 2/P38 Range Rover owner I consider that unacceptable. 

Imagine celebrating finally getting your brand new invacare with a trip to a safari park and discovering how reliable they are as you pass through the lion enclosure. 

[Dick Cheeseburger]

[warren t claim]

23 minutes ago, warren t claim said:

13 breakdowns in 12 months/4000 miles? 

Even as a former Laguna 2/P38 Range Rover owner I consider that unacceptable. 

Surely must have some poor twat on here who owns a Metrocab and after seeing those breakdown stats is now looking through his phone and counting the number of "we're on our way" texts from the RAC and thinking HOLD MY BEER!

[Christine]

On 15/08/2018 at 09:45, Dick Longbridge said:

Was thinking similarly. Also, considering public transport is too rough for your back, I really can’t see a GRP-clad trike is going to sort your woes. What about the little Kia FOAD is selling on here? Cheap, reasonably refined, and won’t involve spending the next three years trying to fix it.

You started it Dick!

[paulplom]

15 hours ago, OhNoWhatHaveIDone said:

One thing can't be disputed, when he does drive/ride his Invacar wherever he does it, it will be legal, taxed, licenced and insured, anything after that will be down to him!  

Aren't you the dude that had that powered tricycle illegally on the road? Unlicenced and uninsured iirc.

[Dick Cheeseburger]

29 minutes ago, Christine said:

You started it Dick!

Christ on a bike, how bored are you to dredge up posts from six years ago? Do something productive, old boy. 

[Christine]

Miles out on the timescale mind 

[warren t claim]

53 minutes ago, paulplom said:

Aren't you the dude that had that powered tricycle illegally on the road? Unlicenced and uninsured iirc.

What a total whopper!

[red5]

36 minutes ago, Dick Longbridge said:

Christ on a bike, how bored are you to dredge up posts from six years ago? Do something productive, old boy. 

Oh the irony. You have seen this thread?

[sharley17194]

If you think that chassis is bad have a look at the magenta kit car chassis…

20 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

the reason I hang up on that, is because of comments like yours, that seem to ignore the fact the Model 70 was Crash tested back in the day, and data from the crash tests was used to improve the crash safety of the vehicle throughout production, in the end the Model 70 was compliant with the ECE crash test regulations at the time, I am *not* trying to say that a Model 70 would be considered crash worthy today, but to claim it was utter dire even by the standards of its time, is doing it an unfair disservice 

and ditto your comment about "the handling prowess of a wayward shopping trolley"

yes they will pitch and roll as a 3 wheeler does, but they can get a hustle on! I highly recommend watching this video where the first ex-ministry owner of MHJ22P chucks it about with quite some vigor! 

 

I also see a lot of comparisons made with Reliant 3 wheelers, but a Model 70 is a much more robust vehicle then that of reliant, nothing I think states that more then the fact that *both* weigh 410Kg, but the Reliant is a 4 cylinder 850cc 4 seater car, while the Model 70 is a 493cc 2 cylinder single seater vehicle 

here is a Model 70 Chassis (looking at it from the underside, there are also 2 big bulkhead uprights)

and here is the chassis of a Reliant 3 wheeler

 

 

[OhNoWhatHaveIDone]

I received a warning today being accused of being abusive by Mod.  I acknowledge it, I don't accept it.

@NorthernMonkeydoesn't know the difference between assertive and abusive..... Here's an example of some of the abuse I've had....spot the difference, will anything have been done, I doubt it.

  18 hours ago, BorniteIdentity said:

Dude. Seriously. Why don’t you just fuck right off?

It would be great if you could fuck off and keep fucking off until you’ve fucked off so far you’re right back here.  That way, I can tell you to fuck off all over again. 

You are just the typical, old, rage-filled, impotent knuckle head who’s usually found in his natural habitat of Facebook pages called “Yesterday’s Britain, a Better Britain” and “All our yesterdays”. You’ve stumbled in here, made a cunt of yourself, and now you’re starting to throw your arms around like some pissed up scaffolder. 

Genuinely - fuck off. 

 

 

 

 

[Tenmil Socket]

This is getting pretty ridiculous now. Can’t the last few pages be deleted from where this all started and everyone just forget about it?

 

[Christine]

Maybe he got a message too ?

[paulplom]

10 minutes ago, Tenmil Socket said:

This is getting pretty ridiculous now. Can’t the last few pages be deleted from where this all started and everyone just forget about it?

 

Really!?

It's fabulous entertainment and all in the true spirit of the forum.

[BorniteIdentity]

Just for clarity - I received no such warning. ☺️

[reb]

8 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

Just for clarity - I received no such warning. ☺️

I'm a bit disappointed neither of us got warnings, we could have publicly complained about it then flounced.

[OhNoWhatHaveIDone]

29 minutes ago, Christine said:

Maybe he got a message too ?

I doubt it!  Clique central this thread

[reb]

1 minute ago, OhNoWhatHaveIDone said:

I doubt it!  Clique central this thread

First time on a forum?

[red5]

12 minutes ago, OhNoWhatHaveIDone said:

I doubt it!  Clique central this thread

Don't think you meant thread there chief  :-).

 

As I'm sure you know already though.

[chadders]

He's now got 77 posts, I'm beginning to think that he's got a bet with someone that he can reach 100 before being banned as no normal person who was allowed out on their own could be as stupid and arrogant.

Maybe the this is abusive, I'd prefer to classify it as a reasonable theory.

[busmansholiday]

3 hours ago, paulplom said:

Really!?

It's fabulous entertainment and all in the true spirit of the forum.

Absolutely, the last 14 pages have had people on the edge of their seats waiting for the next hilarious load of comments. The previous 400 pages were useful if you were suffering from insomnia.

[IronStar]

Amazing how this thread manages to descend into utter insanity every 20 pages or so. are we sure it didn’t escape politics forum? Chill out guys, Jesus.

Unrelated to this thread, what happened with Alvis guy? PM if it’s not for open part of the forum?

[captain_70s]

12 minutes ago, IronStar said:

Amazing how this thread manages to descend into utter insanity every 20 pages or so. are we sure it didn’t escape politics forum? Chill out guys, Jesus.

Unrelated to this thread, what happened with Alvis guy? PM if it’s not for open part of the forum?

Alvis guy had bipolar disorder, got sectioned and hasn't be heard from since.

I think some folk who know him more personally have confirmed he's alive and recovering. 

[BorniteIdentity]

14 minutes ago, IronStar said:

Amazing how this thread manages to descend into utter insanity every 20 pages or so. are we sure it didn’t escape politics forum? Chill out guys, Jesus.

Unrelated to this thread, what happened with Alvis guy? PM if it’s not for open part of the forum?

In summary he was showing very clear signs of irrational behaviour, buying a Stolly, registering a company called Railton Heavy Industries, then planning to buy another, planning to drive one across the English Channel. All this with clear and obvious signs of mental health issues and a family bereavement. 

People on here who should have known better encouraged him and enabled him. It spiralled until the fella was sectioned and, as far as we know, he’s still being cared for. 

I spoke to him a couple of times on the old Covid video calls we did and he was likeable, pleasant but unwell. One night he was so hyper he took over the entire call and started giving us an in depth tour of his mother’s electrical wiring (not a euphemism).

It was not the forum’s proudest moment.  There’s a reason a few of us are shouting like mad to be heard this time. 

[IronStar]

10 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

In summary he was showing very clear signs of irrational behaviour, buying a Stolly, registering a company called Railton Heavy Industries, then planning to buy another, planning to drive one across the English Channel. All this with clear and obvious signs of mental health issues and a family bereavement. 

People on here who should have known better encouraged him and enabled him. It spiralled until the fella was sectioned and, as far as we know, he’s still being cared for. 

I spoke to him a couple of times on the old Covid video calls we did and he was likeable, pleasant but unwell. One night he was so hyper he took over the entire call and started giving us an in depth tour of his mother’s electrical wiring (not a euphemism).

It was not the forum’s proudest moment.  There’s a reason a few of us are shouting like mad to be heard this time. 

Uhoh, that sounds really bad.
 

LBF please don’t get yourself seriously injured or worse to try to prove people wrong. There’s a reason most of the people here have a sensible daily and don’t daily fun cars. Doing stupid things and trips in unsuitable cars is great fun, but it’s not much fun when you’re relying on totally unsuitable car to get you somewhere on time or to an important event. It’s a calculated risk, and not one you need every time you need a car. Calling big yellow bus to recover you is cool and all, but not if it’s your only car, and it’s happening way too often. 
By all means, live the Invacar dream, but please don’t rely on it as your sole means of transportation. 

[barefoot]

19 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

In summary he was showing very clear signs of irrational behaviour, buying a Stolly, registering a company called Railton Heavy Industries, then planning to buy another, planning to drive one across the English Channel. All this with clear and obvious signs of mental health issues and a family bereavement. 

People on here who should have known better encouraged him and enabled him. It spiralled until the fella was sectioned and, as far as we know, he’s still being cared for. 

I spoke to him a couple of times on the old Covid video calls we did and he was likeable, pleasant but unwell. One night he was so hyper he took over the entire call and started giving us an in depth tour of his mother’s electrical wiring (not a euphemism).

It was not the forum’s proudest moment.  There’s a reason a few of us are shouting like mad to be heard this time. 

Don't forget that he bought a Leyland Roadrunner and bet everyone a tenner that he'd be able to drive it on 2 wheels like in the advert within 12 months. 

[dean36014]

Unfortunately he also sold his house he owned to pay for the various vehicles he bought.  I tried to ask him if was ok when he first showed signs but there was too much encouragement and back slapping for mine and others voices to be listened too. A real dark moment for this forum, along with losing Dave numbers in a car crash and Hendry to suicide.

[captain_70s]

21 minutes ago, barefoot said:

Don't forget that he bought a Leyland Roadrunner and bet everyone a tenner that he'd be able to drive it on 2 wheels like in the advert within 12 months. 

And was frequently driving under the influence and killed his 1971 Nissan Cedric driving into the back of somebody...

I don't think he actually bought much of the stuff he said he'd bought. He'd agreed to buy stuff but I think a lot of it was hinging on selling his house with deposits coming from inheritance from a family member passing away.