AS Communal MK4&5 Mondeo Thread

[Bren]

With gritted teeth I replaced our mondeo cabin filter. You have to go via the glovebox and remove the trim panel from underneath the fascia.

The fusebox has to lowered by unlocking the tab at the front. However this still wont give you enough access and you will need to release the fusebox hinges as well.

I could only undo a couple of the screws holding the cover on with my cordless ratchet - you will need handtools as well. After getting the cover off the pollen filter can be pulled out but it will need to be manipulated.

The old one didn't look dirty but it's weight told a different story. A bosch one was put back in.

The new one will need to be squeezed in. You will also need to make sure nothing is trapped when screwing the cover back on.

It's the trickiest pollen filter I have done - it's uncomfortable doing it and I wouldn't be surprised if lots of people who have bought a used mondeo have found a brand new pollen filter in the boot?

[sierraman]

It’s not that difficult a job once you’ve done it once. 15 minutes, a bit of a fiddle but it’s not garage work. 

[beko1987]

Looks almost in the same place as on my qq. No fuse box to drop, just a panel to remove and it's buried right up. On a ldh car it's apparently a mega twat as the pedals are then in the way 😂

Thanks for showing it though, my mate was chatting cars the other day and we have a small fettle list to do, I'll add checking his filter to that.

He nearly got swayed the other month with this 

But test drove it and chickened out which I don't blame him, I did express concern. He's mostly happy with the mondeo, him washing and fucking the keys is the biggest issue currently and that's not the cars fault.

Is there a fuse we can disable the alarm system with? Or is it too new for that ?

[warren t claim]

On 07/05/2025 at 09:25, sierraman said:

It’s not that difficult a job once you’ve done it once. 15 minutes, a bit of a fiddle but it’s not garage work. 

My first to half an hour and since then 20 mins tops.

[Rightnider]

You lucky bastards, with your RHD Mondeos… Just like @beko1987 said, the pedals are in the way in LHD cars. 

[jonathan_dyane]

I love the way she has the screen display problem 'checked out twice at MOT' you just know that's the only time it's seen a garage and it's running the same oil as when she bought it...

[sierraman]

8 hours ago, jonathan_dyane said:

I love the way she has the screen display problem 'checked out twice at MOT' you just know that's the only time it's seen a garage and it's running the same oil as when she bought it...

What they’ve actually done at the garage is told them to fuck it off. I’d see the sense in getting another car if you were going to buy something better, it’s just swapping one problem with another. 

[warren t claim]

Mk5 10000 mile running report incoming soon.

[warren t claim]

It was inspection day today, and after a new set of pads was fitted, it passed the MOT but failed the taxi compliance element because it had an OSR tyre that was over ten years old. Once the tyre was changed, it was granted another taxi plate.

Inspection passed I had to hurry to a doctors appointment but was so proud of YR66YRV for passing I took a proud picture of her.

 

 

[Stinkwheel]

Folks, tell me how mad or otherwise i would be for looking at a mk4 126k 2013 1.6 tdci mondeo. MOT history reads OK and its presentable enough. I know about the oil feed/starvation issue, but its got nearly full S/H so hoping for it to be OK.

 

[sierraman]

41 minutes ago, Stinkwheel said:

Folks, tell me how mad or otherwise i would be for looking at a mk4 126k 2013 1.6 tdci mondeo. MOT history reads OK and its presentable enough. I know about the oil feed/starvation issue, but its got nearly full S/H so hoping for it to be OK.

 

Na it’ll be fine. I think they’re the 8 valve engines if I remember right. Not a ball of fire but they’re in everything of that era, not prone the same problems as before. Easy belt job as well. 

[artdjones]

47 minutes ago, Stinkwheel said:

Folks, tell me how mad or otherwise i would be for looking at a mk4 126k 2013 1.6 tdci mondeo. MOT history reads OK and its presentable enough. I know about the oil feed/starvation issue, but its got nearly full S/H so hoping for it to be OK.

 

As said, yes, Ford never put the 16 valve 1.6 in the MK4 Mondeo. They put the 8 valve in from the 2011 facelift, replacing the 1.8. A very durable engine, and even a snapped belt isn't terminal. Most can be repaired with a new cam, a few rockers, and a belt kit, without the head coming off.

[sierraman]

2 minutes ago, artdjones said:

As said, yes, Ford never put the 16 valve 1.6 in the MK4 Mondeo. They put the 8 valve in from the 2011 facelift, replacing the 1.8. A very durable engine, and even a snapped belt isn't terminal. Most can be repaired with a new cam, a few rockers, and a belt kit, without the head coming off.

An hour or two to do the timing belt anyway. Worth just doing anyway. 

[artdjones]

I'm retiring in less than a year, so for the small amount of work I'll still be doing, I'm thinking of replacing my van with an estate car. The Mondeo 4/5 1.6 diesel is high on the list.

[sierraman]

45 minutes ago, artdjones said:

I'm retiring in less than a year, so for the small amount of work I'll still be doing, I'm thinking of replacing my van with an estate car. The Mondeo 4/5 1.6 diesel is high on the list.

They’re alright, obviously totally inferior to a German motor car for example though! 😂

[warren t claim]

10 hours ago, Stinkwheel said:

Folks, tell me how mad or otherwise i would be for looking at a mk4 126k 2013 1.6 tdci mondeo. MOT history reads OK and its presentable enough. I know about the oil feed/starvation issue, but its got nearly full S/H so hoping for it to be OK.

 

There was no chance of it ever having been a taxi at that age and mileage, and the 1.6 wasn't considered the best choice of engine for cab usage anyway. Nevertheless, it's best to check the rear carpet for wear and the MOT history just in case.

[warren t claim]

7 hours ago, artdjones said:

I'm retiring in less than a year, so for the small amount of work I'll still be doing, I'm thinking of replacing my van with an estate car. The Mondeo 4/5 1.6 diesel is high on the list.

The small diesel fitted to the Mk5 is the 1.5 engine. The 2.0 is considered a stronger unit and as I'm getting 47 mpg out of mine (even with the stop/start turned off) the small saving on RFL/fuel may not be worth it.

[Rightnider]

We’ve got one mk4 of each flavour. 

Given the choice I’d take the 2-litre, it’s easier to drive with a broader torque band, but the 1.6 is okay. Fuel economy is roughly the same. 

[sierraman]

Go with whatever isn’t about to land you with a bill for a DMF and clutch. 

[beko1987]

My friend messaged me this morning (with the 2007 2.0 pez mondeo). When idling Hsu engine has started surging noticeably. Said it seemed better when at speed but he felt it mildly...

Any ideas? I've told him to see if the car tries to die if he dips the clutch at mild speed, and if it's translating into the tach needle moving as well. My next thoughts are spend half an hour with a can of brake cleaner and remove and clean things like the throttle body and maf etc. Not thrown an engine code though 

[artdjones]

I went to look at this for using for work today. 2.0d. The mileage is high (199k miles) but it feels tight, and there's no DMF rattle. Might phone up about insurance later, just in case it's on some database or other that would mean they won't cover it.

[Cookiesouwest]

3 hours ago, beko1987 said:

My friend messaged me this morning (with the 2007 2.0 pez mondeo). When idling Hsu engine has started surging noticeably. Said it seemed better when at speed but he felt it mildly...

Any ideas? I've told him to see if the car tries to die if he dips the clutch at mild speed, and if it's translating into the tach needle moving as well. My next thoughts are spend half an hour with a can of brake cleaner and remove and clean things like the throttle body and maf etc. Not thrown an engine code though 

Idle control valve ?

[sierraman]

I must say I’ve been looking at Kugas lately, maybe I’m getting old or losing the plot but it’s a sort of logical successor to a Mondeo, big, comfortable etc. Also they seem to be looked after much better as it’s usually a private car. A lot of the Mondeos for sale seem to have had seven bells of shit knocked out of them. 

[beko1987]

On 24/06/2025 at 16:14, Cookiesouwest said:

Idle control valve ?

That's what I'm hoping, it's probably part of the throttle body assembly nowadays isn't it?

He's been doing some looking and fuel filter came up, plus spark plugs. We fitted new plugs the day I did my cambelt in Feb but they were cheap shite, I'm wondering if I should owe him some better spark plugs... Will pop one out and see, I said I'd get a tin of brake clean and we'll have a look for anything obvious.

Being a mk4.5 googling where shit is is impossible, I always get results for other cars and with it not being my car I've not crawled all over it to find these things 😂

[beko1987]

22 hours ago, sierraman said:

I must say I’ve been looking at Kugas lately, maybe I’m getting old or losing the plot but it’s a sort of logical successor to a Mondeo, big, comfortable etc. Also they seem to be looked after much better as it’s usually a private car. A lot of the Mondeos for sale seem to have had seven bells of shit knocked out of them. 

The ex is on her 2nd kuga now. The first she got on finance and had it 2 years but last week she chopped it in for a newer hybrid kuga for the same monthly price of £680 a month 🙄

She never pleads poverty so I  won't ask questions but it made me feel better about the qq, worst case I've only spunked less than 3 months rental up the wall 😂

The old one started keeping the clutch depressed though which made a tint bit more sense to swap before it went very badly wrong.

They don't look bad cars, I've been in her old one a couple of times locally and it's fine.

I bet you've got to hunt for the specific engine and gearbox combo that isn't fucking shit in a tadts kind of way though

[sierraman]

There’s millions of them on the road, I don’t think the early petrols were worth your time as they’d be chewing through fuel at a rate. So it’d be the 1.5 or the 2.0 diesel. The later petrols look ok but I’d be spending perhaps £6-7k so they’re not in the running at that money. 

[sierraman]

On 24/06/2025 at 12:24, beko1987 said:

My friend messaged me this morning (with the 2007 2.0 pez mondeo). When idling Hsu engine has started surging noticeably. Said it seemed better when at speed but he felt it mildly...

Any ideas? I've told him to see if the car tries to die if he dips the clutch at mild speed, and if it's translating into the tach needle moving as well. My next thoughts are spend half an hour with a can of brake cleaner and remove and clean things like the throttle body and maf etc. Not thrown an engine code though 

Possibly a vac leak on the pipe that goes in between the inlet manifold. I’d check that first.

[beko1987]

Ah he's leaving the office, just noticed the time. Seems we might get a code now

[sierraman]

This is exactly why you should never get involved when people ask you to help them buy a car. 

[beko1987]

15 minutes ago, sierraman said:

This is exactly why you should never get involved when people ask you to help them buy a car. 

I know, but this isn't so bad, Harry is very cool and isn't too fussed by it all. It's a disposable short term car for him anyway.

However

I reckon the cheap shit spark plugs I fitted for him have gone (hopefully tbh). Do I need to buy some special fancy style of plugs for this? 

I said we'd move the plug from 4 to 3 and check, but tbh if we have another set of known_ok plugs to lob in we should do that.

Otherwise do the coil packs usually go bad? Their individual too iirc so we could move one of those too.