AS Communal MK4&5 Mondeo Thread

[sierraman]

On 10/6/2021 at 8:20 AM, Fraz said:

I didn’t, I did this myself. 

 

I just hadnt bothered actually looking earlier this year. 

Fair point. Prompted me to check when my MOT runs out, turns out it’s next month. Can’t see anything obviously wrong apart from a loose front seat, not the bolts but the back rest bolts. The T55 bolt was impossible to get at with the seat in situ, loosening the seat and tightened the head on the bolt with a pair of grips. I’d have had to strip the seat runners to get to the head of the bolt otherwise.

[Cookiesouwest]

On 10/6/2021 at 6:51 AM, Cookiesouwest said:

I've no evidence the powershite box has ever had a fluid change.

So contacted Ford dealer.

Scary. They didn't know the box needed a fluid change every 3 yrs / 36000 miles.

Not filled me with confidence.

340 quid which is in the ballpark of what I was expecting.

 

So. Went to a local indy who has a good rep with auto boxes

Me : Ive got a Mk4 Mondeo with powershift gearbox

Him : 'looks scared'

Me : I need a fluid and filter change on the box

Him : We did one once ... long pause .... it did not end well. Dont want to do another. Sorry. Have a good day.

So, looks like it might have to be a dealer job

 

[sierraman]

31 minutes ago, Cookiesouwest said:

So. Went to a local indy who has a good rep with auto boxes

Me : Ive got a Mk4 Mondeo with powershift gearbox

Him : 'looks scared'

Me : I need a fluid and filter change on the box

Him : We did one once ... long pause .... it did not end well. Dont want to do another. Sorry. Have a good day.

So, looks like it might have to be a dealer job

 

I think that’s telling you something...

[Cookiesouwest]

1 minute ago, sierraman said:

I think that’s telling you something...

It is. But I really like the car. Box will go bang if it doesn't have its fluid changed and might go bang if it does.

Find myself in a bit of a bind.

[Mrcento]

37 minutes ago, Cookiesouwest said:

So. Went to a local indy who has a good rep with auto boxes

Me : Ive got a Mk4 Mondeo with powershift gearbox

Him : 'looks scared'

Me : I need a fluid and filter change on the box

Him : We did one once ... long pause .... it did not end well. Dont want to do another. Sorry. Have a good day.

So, looks like it might have to be a dealer job

 

Somebody got burnt 😂

To be fair to the garage there (without knowing what happened), Most folk only take autos in when they're acting up, hoping a fluid and filter change will fix it. Could well not actually be on them if they did one and it failed instantly.

[sierraman]

17 minutes ago, Cookiesouwest said:

It is. But I really like the car. Box will go bang if it doesn't have its fluid changed and might go bang if it does.

Find myself in a bit of a bind.

For pure curiosity value, how much is it at Ford?

[warren t claim]

1 hour ago, Cookiesouwest said:

So. Went to a local indy who has a good rep with auto boxes

Me : Ive got a Mk4 Mondeo with powershift gearbox

Him : 'looks scared'

Me : I need a fluid and filter change on the box

Him : We did one once ... long pause .... it did not end well. Dont want to do another. Sorry. Have a good day.

So, looks like it might have to be a dealer job

 

Seems straightforward enough.

[Bren]

37 minutes ago, Cookiesouwest said:

It is. But I really like the car. Box will go bang if it doesn't have its fluid changed and might go bang if it does.

Find myself in a bit of a bind.

I am led to believe dealers farm these out to autobox specialists.

[Bren]

If autobox specialists do not want to touch it then that tells you something.

[Cookiesouwest]

9 hours ago, sierraman said:

For pure curiosity value, how much is it at Ford?

340 quid.

[Cookiesouwest]

9 hours ago, warren t claim said:

Seems straightforward enough.

Thats what I thought.

Maybe @Mrcento is right. Most people only take the car in when the box is already knackered, so that gives the trade 'the fear'.

[warren t claim]

16 hours ago, Cookiesouwest said:

340 quid.

Most of which is to pay for the unicorn jizz fluid.

[junkyarddog]

Just back home from 2 weeks in the UK.

My 13 year old Ford Mondeo did it with ease,despite England's crumbling roads network,the "fuel crisis" and me clobbering a rock at the side of the road and destroying a tyre in the process because some bell end in a Peugeot wouldn't give way(made all the more difficult owing to the fact I'd just loaded and was on the way to the tip with an old and extremely heavy washing machine)then having to pay through the nose for a hankook tyre!

£122!!

Although I'm extremely thankful that I got away with just a tyre and no other damage, apart for the wheel rim getting a small bit of damage. 

It's getting on a bit now,it clocked up 300,000km on the way to the ferry,and did another 2500km by the time I got home,so I'm thinking of replacing it, but I'm fucked if I know what with?

The mk4 mondeo, the perfect car?

For me it seems yes.

Just a shame I can't find another 3 year old one and run it for another 10 years😆

[Cord Fourteener]

So Wifey's hatchback has failed to regen twice again, distance since last regen over 1270 km. 2 failed attempts, oil deterioration light on again. 

I'm starting to get bored of this now, I just want her to be able to commute without faff.

She's been doing good milage in it too.  What are the specific conditions required for regen?

Could there be underlying conditions or issues I've missed?

[Fraz]

 

Broken mondeo life 

[junkyarddog]

It would be advisable to replace the top bearing for the shock too,as they can get rather corroded  in there.

New genuine ones from Ford aren't that expensive. 

[warren t claim]

5 hours ago, junkyarddog said:

It would be advisable to replace the top bearing for the shock too,as they can get rather corroded  in there.

New genuine ones from Ford aren't that expensive. 

This. They are prone to wearing out every 80k or so.

[Cord Fourteener]

4 hours ago, warren t claim said:

This. They are prone to wearing out every 80k or so.

That could explain the clunk coming from the front suspension in Wifey's car. 

[sierraman]

19 hours ago, Cord Fourteener said:

So Wifey's hatchback has failed to regen twice again, distance since last regen over 1270 km. 2 failed attempts, oil deterioration light on again. 

I'm starting to get bored of this now, I just want her to be able to commute without faff.

She's been doing good milage in it too.  What are the specific conditions required for regen?

Could there be underlying conditions or issues I've missed?

Could be the MAF. Don’t discount the fact cheap eBay special MAFs frequently don’t work.

[Cord Fourteener]

39 minutes ago, sierraman said:

Could be the MAF. Don’t discount the fact cheap eBay special MAFs frequently don’t work.

Is there a way to test it, could I unplug it and run it for a while to see if it regens.

I suspect the fact that we rarely drive above 2,000 rpm might have something to do with it?

[sierraman]

38 minutes ago, Cord Fourteener said:

Is there a way to test it, could I unplug it and run it for a while to see if it regens.

I suspect the fact that we rarely drive above 2,000 rpm might have something to do with it?

Rpm makes no difference to the DPF regen, it’s dependent on the driving conditions, load and how hot the car is. Obviously driving in 4th at 70-80 will do this but it’s not solely dependent on the RPM. 

You could clean it but they’re a very common fail point. For some reason it is failing to complete a regen. Have you checked the pipework and the pressure sensor on the DPF?

[Cord Fourteener]

48 minutes ago, sierraman said:

Rpm makes no difference to the DPF regen, it’s dependent on the driving conditions, load and how hot the car is. Obviously driving in 4th at 70-80 will do this but it’s not solely dependent on the RPM. 

You could clean it but they’re a very common fail point. For some reason it is failing to complete a regen. Have you checked the pipework and the pressure sensor on the DPF?

No I've not checked the pipes and pressure sensor only that the pressure values seem normal to me. 

It can regen, it did last month, only this week is failed twice. 

She's at work until tomorrow evening so I'll know more when I can stick it on Forscan to check. 

[Fraz]

20 hours ago, junkyarddog said:

It would be advisable to replace the top bearing for the shock too,as they can get rather corroded  in there.

New genuine ones from Ford aren't that expensive. 

Cheers but this car had been top mount bearings last year just prior to me buying it 

[Cord Fourteener]

So the car did do a regen, but also the fuel in oil increased. 

 

[sierraman]

11 hours ago, Cord Fourteener said:

So the car did do a regen, but also the fuel in oil increased. 

 

Are you sure you’ve not got an incontinent injector? I’d suggest a leak off test. 

[Cord Fourteener]

39 minutes ago, sierraman said:

Are you sure you’ve not got an incontinent injector? I’d suggest a leak off test. 

You mean the injector in the dpf?

 

[mat_the_cat]

There's no injector actually in the DPF, but it uses the normal injectors firing on the exhaust stroke, to carry out a regen.

[Fraz]

2 hours ago, mat_the_cat said:

There's no injector actually in the DPF, but it uses the normal injectors firing on the exhaust stroke, to carry out a regen.

I might be totally wrong with this - but my understanding is that Ford have a seperate fuel vapouriser which fires fuel into the exhaust to regen… 

[sierraman]

9 hours ago, Fraz said:

I might be totally wrong with this - but my understanding is that Ford have a seperate fuel vapouriser which fires fuel into the exhaust to regen… 

On the Euro 5 yes, not the earlier ones.

Injector leak off on the four injectors on the engine I’m talking about. 

[Fraz]

Ah cool. Mines a later euro 5 and I’d only researched its system.