AS Communal MK4&5 Mondeo Thread

[Cookiesouwest]

18 minutes ago, grogee said:

Bon chance, mon ami. 

I'm quite surprised to hear there's no filter but I've only seen one and that was the one I fixed. 

Fluid and filter was really no harder than doing a normal engine oil and cartridge filter. Filling up involved checking the level at a certain temp which needed Forscan/Foreskin but it wasn't hard. 

Instinct suggests new fluid can't hurt but I'm no expert. I really hope you continue to disprove the rule that 'all Powershifts are shite m9'. 

My instincts are the same.

Box is ok at moment, so can't see how 7L of fresh unicorn piss will make it worse.

But I have been wrong before lol

[junkyarddog]

Brimmed the tank on my mk4 recently, approx 70 litres.

Then drove it until the idiot light came on.

It did 1,316 KM,or 818miles to one tank of diesel.

It returned 4.5 litres per 100km.

Or 62mpg if you prefer,even allowing for discrepancies,that's impressive from a high(ish) mile 2.0diesel 15 year old estate car.

[junkyarddog]

Had another sticky caliper on my mk4.

Drivers side front this time🙄

Another used caliper sourced.

One rear caliper was also sticking slightly on the handbrake. 

So did a clean and lube up of that too.

Rear brake nipples are a crusty mess,so it will probably mean replacement calipers on the rear if it needs any further work here.

Test will be soon too,so will see what happens. 

Could this thread be moved back to the modern section please?,as it's a pain to find now.

The mk5 Mondeo is still a modern car.

[sierraman]

They don’t seem half as much a PITA as the Mk3 calipers. My MOT is up in a week or two, see how that pans out. 

[Cookiesouwest]

Regen question. 2.0tdci auto.

Today the mk4 mondy got its annual run from Somerset to Northumberland.

At about Worcester it dropped to 5th (its a powershite), revs went to 3k and it stayed that way for 20 ish miles).

I figured it was doing a regen.

Then at about Preston, it did it again for another 20ish miles.

Why would it do two regens?

 

[junkyarddog]

Your EGR may be sticking. 

Mine jammed slightly open,so I freed it off,then blanked it.

Been ok since.

[sierraman]

1 hour ago, Cookiesouwest said:

Regen question. 2.0tdci auto.

Today the mk4 mondy got its annual run from Somerset to Northumberland.

At about Worcester it dropped to 5th (its a powershite), revs went to 3k and it stayed that way for 20 ish miles).

I figured it was doing a regen.

Then at about Preston, it did it again for another 20ish miles.

Why would it do two regens?

 

Impossible to say without plugging it in. See what codes it says and then it’ll give you a closer idea. 

[rob88h]

On 13/02/2018 at 10:57, warren t claim said:

I really think that after the black grille Sierra and the black topped bumper MK1 Mondeo these will be what we all want in 2026. 

Bomb-site dealer trade in. 1-Day left on the MOT. 1.6 Diesel. Misery. This is perfect. 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/631143875899104/

 

[Dave_Q]

Big up Mondeo Massive. A friend of the family has a 61 plate Galaxy 2.0 pez which one assumes is the same underneath as a mk3/4 Mondeo?

Their clutch is slipping. How much of an arseache is a clutch on one of these? I watched that mentalist who does clutches on drives do one, the video is an hour and a half long and it looks like there's a massive subframe in the way, that one was a diesel though. 

Any advice? I can't see this costing them any less than a grand, which they also can't really afford, but £1000 + the weigh in value of the car doesn't get them into anything better either. 

If it does go to frag, is there anything that's worth keeping off it that still allows them to collect the £389 from removemycar?

[Cookiesouwest]

1 hour ago, Dave_Q said:

Big up Mondeo Massive. A friend of the family has a 61 plate Galaxy 2.0 pez which one assumes is the same underneath as a mk3/4 Mondeo?

Their clutch is slipping. How much of an arseache is a clutch on one of these? I watched that mentalist who does clutches on drives one, the video is an hour and a half long and it looks like there's a massive subframe in the way, that one was a diesel though. 

Any advice? I can't see this costing them any less than a grand, which they also can't really afford, but £1000 + the weigh in value of the car doesn't get them into anything better either. 

If it does go to frag, is there anything that's worth keeping off it that still allows them to collect the £389 from removemycar?

You are right. Most places will charge approaching a grand for the job.

If its in good nick and they like it, probably worth fixing.

They could strip bits off it, but its a Ball ache and most bits will be hanging around for months / years. Not worth the effort.

[sierraman]

2 hours ago, Dave_Q said:

Big up Mondeo Massive. A friend of the family has a 61 plate Galaxy 2.0 pez which one assumes is the same underneath as a mk3/4 Mondeo?

Their clutch is slipping. How much of an arseache is a clutch on one of these? I watched that mentalist who does clutches on drives do one, the video is an hour and a half long and it looks like there's a massive subframe in the way, that one was a diesel though. 

Any advice? I can't see this costing them any less than a grand, which they also can't really afford, but £1000 + the weigh in value of the car doesn't get them into anything better either. 

If it does go to frag, is there anything that's worth keeping off it that still allows them to collect the £389 from removemycar?

Clutch is a massive PITA on a driveway, it’s a ramp job, nothing particularly complicated just labour intensive and difficult laid on your back in the cold. 

[sierraman]

34 minutes ago, Cookiesouwest said:

You are right. Most places will charge approaching a grand for the job.

If its in good nick and they like it, probably worth fixing.

They could strip bits off it, but its a Ball ache and most bits will be hanging around for months / years. Not worth the effort.

Na, £5-600 on that, the DMF will probably be fine. It’s £7-800 on a diesel with a decent LuK DMF, CSC and plate. 

[Dave_Q]

Thanks guys, apparently they've managed to get it booked in somewhere now so it will live on. 

I was never going to volunteer, I still have traumatic memories of the last time I volunteered to do a clutch for someone on a Vectra B which included a golf ball sized lump on my forehead where the subframe hit me, and the final insult of the thing being weighed in anyway a few weeks later because it was pissing fluid out the concentric slave. 

[sierraman]

31 minutes ago, Dave_Q said:

Thanks guys, apparently they've managed to get it booked in somewhere now so it will live on. 

I was never going to volunteer, I still have traumatic memories of the last time I volunteered to do a clutch for someone on a Vectra B which included a golf ball sized lump on my forehead where the subframe hit me, and the final insult of the thing being weighed in anyway a few weeks later because it was pissing fluid out the concentric slave. 

I wouldn’t attempt it on a driveway, it’s unpleasant enough on a ramp. I ended up a while back just after COVID having a clutch and DMF put in a diesel one, the garage were that incompetent I had to help muck in to put it all back together so I can tell you first hand I would not be attempting this on the driveway. 
 

That guy that does driveway clutches, hats off to him, that sounds like some sort of mechanics punishment for having done something wrong in a previous life. Imagine that in the fucking driving hail knocking driveshafts out all day and lifting gearboxes back in, your trousers piss wet through while gearbox oil trickles gently up your sleeve into the loins of your armpit. 

[junkyarddog]

Old girl has done me proud again.

Another 12 months ticket.

Chuffed.

[junkyarddog]

Oil and filters time again!

Hopefully it won't need anything else over the Winter months. 

[junkyarddog]

Rear caliper started sticking on again after I freed it off.

Nothing for it but to replace it with a genuine scrap yard sourced part for the princely sum of €20.00.

Wouldn't have much hope of shifting that bleed nipple!!

Of course the hard line union was seized and snapped off. 🙄

Repair spliced in.

Job jobbed,I would have replaced the other side too,but it was gone, so this will suffice for now.

[Bren]

Another mk IV with rear brake issues. I stripped and cleaned ours a few months ago - I noticed the pads did not have long before leaving the chat. I decided to replace them as we are away next week.

The n/s wheel would still rotate easily with the handbrake applied. The levers were a mess. I stripped them as much as I could and used needle files wire brush and plus gas to get them moving again.

I bought pagid pads that were not cheap and did not come with the clips that fit to the carrier. Disappoint.

Hardbrake worked on the o/s but the piston was very reluctant  to move - I had used a draper tool designed for the MK3 granada on the n/s but it is a tight fit - this was useless on the o/s.

I broke out my rewind kit - it has the tool for Left and Right. Unfortunately the tommy bar is useless on a stiff caliper and mullers your hands. I put box spanners inside each other and used them as an extension - a bit more leverage was what was needed. Undoing the bleed nipple was not going to happen as it resembled a rotten tooth.

Even though the mk IV has been out of production nearly ten years I am still surprised how grim these things get underneath - the protection looks to have been minimal.

 

[sierraman]

Farting about with old semi seized calipers rarely works in the long run. New ones usually are the answer. 

[Bren]

21 minutes ago, sierraman said:

Farting about with old semi seized calipers rarely works in the long run. New ones usually are the answer. 

I agree. They will get replaced at some point.

[warren t claim]

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-features-sheds/ford-mondeo-25-t-titanium-x-shed-of-the-week/48565

A Mk4 has finally appeared in Pistonheads Shed Of The Week. A 2.5 Turbo Titanium X no less.

 

[Bren]

Ours needed a clean due to our camping trip as large bits of North Wales were stuck to the carpets. It needs new rubber on the rear and a service.

 

[sierraman]

Nice seats! Mine needs some tyres on front but thats expensed. Think MOT time it’ll need a NSR bush, plus the vanes have started sticking again. This time it’ll be an exhaust off job to free them properly though. 

[Bren]

An expensive month.

Had rear trailing arm bushes done and I fitted new rear pads.

The battery then died. To be fair it had given us fair warning - slow cranking sometimes however last night wife unit got in and car was dead.

My meter showed 10.5 volts. Rest in Peace. 

I jump started it off a slave battery and did the usual checks with everything turned on - healthy 14+ volts so the charging system is ok.

Due to paranoia I checked that all the interior lights went off etc including the glovebox - all ok.

My factor sourced a Yuasa 760 CCA for £125 with three year guarantee. Out of curiosity I rang Ford as they are competitive with some things.

But not batteries. Just over £200 and they wouldn't be able to get it until tomorrow. My car needs a 700 CCA item - they also listed a 590 CCA item which is a tad puny for a diesel motor.

I put the new battery on charge for a few hours and cracked on - I always do this as you have no idea how long it has been sitting.

Original item. 12 years old. You did good.

There is a bit of faff as the cables aren't that long. You can get away with removing the top of the airbox to get the battery out. Some of the smaller wires are very thin gauge and it wouldn't take much to break them.

Another pair of hands is helpful to.lift the cables up to slide the battery in. You have to connect the - before sliding the battery in. I taped up the - and put a cap on the + until they were connected to prevent pyrotechnics.

Using advice from RoverFolkUs I " coded" the battery using the rear fog light switch and hazard switch as there is a sensor on the - terminal. The battery light flashes a few times then goes off. Just the stereo to be reset with the code which is with the handbooks.

A bit of a PITA just to change a battery.

And it still needs a service and rear tyres......

 

[warren t claim]

 

[Bren]

Changed the oil on ours today.

Would have done it sooner if Carousel Car parts hadn't messed me around.

New rear tyres  next week. I noticed that the rear back plates have rusted through. I go on a couple of mondeo forums - sadly they are starting to succumb to rot - the u derside is not as well protected as you would hope.

[sierraman]

Gave mine a shitload of Waxoyl last year. Hopefully should mean it lasts a bit longer! 

[warren t claim]

Sad to say that seeing a Mk4 still working as a taxi in my area has now become a rare sight.

[Bren]

3 hours ago, warren t claim said:

Sad to say that seeing a Mk4 still working as a taxi in my area has now become a rare sight.

They are now at the point of being uneconomical to fix.

[sierraman]

1 hour ago, Bren said:

They are now at the point of being uneconomical to fix.

Still some very optimistic souls trying to get £4k plus for really mint ones. That said they’re a strong car so even if it wants a clutch and DMF it’s probably worth the several hundred quid as finding a good one isn’t easy now.