AS Communal MK4&5 Mondeo Thread

[overrun]

IME the 2.0 TDCi PSA affair is fucking bullet proof.

A better engine in many ways than the 2.2 TDCi I have now - and I knew this - quieter, too.

[junkyarddog]

It's generally accepted that the 2.0tdci psa unit is the one to have.

[overrun]

Black Boot Handle (and door mirror) Massiv!

[warren t claim]

 

Well something had to go wrong eventually. Not going to be the easiest hose to replace.

[LessThanEqual]

Looks like you can get a mk5 in black and red too!

[trigger]

Do the 2.2 TDCis have a belt or chain? I'm thinking of changing my cheap to run low mileage Fiesta for something a little bigger like a Focus 1.8TDCi for about £2000 but this has come up for sale locally and it's really getting me thinking.

 

 

It's a 2008 2.2 TDCi Titanium X sport in black, fully loaded with Sat Nav etc, full history and 117k for £3000 Ono. It's a little too big as a second car and £1000 too much but I've always wanted one and this looks a bargain. Just a bit concerned about the belt as the owner says it's chain but ford say it's a belt?

[Kiltox]

Same engine as in my Relay? Horribly noisy when hauling a van around but not a terrible thing really

[warren t claim]

It's belt.

[trigger]

That's what I suspected. I'm out then, it's not been done and once you factor in £300-400 for a new one the cars not as cheap anymore.

[Lacquer Peel]

Weirdly ECP lists a timing chain kit and a cambelt. Is it like the late 1.8TDDi with a separate belt drive for the cam?

[BorniteIdentity]

On the basis that it's a second car - and the fuel saving will be negligible - what about this?

 

I doubt people are falling over themselves to buy big petrol engined cars atm, especially sensible hatchbacks.  It's the right colour too!

[Lacquer Peel]

The best* option is the 1.6 NA petrol one this thread made me aware of.

[sierraman]

I've seen mk4s from about a grand upwards.

[cort16]

There’s seems to be a good choice for about 1500 quid

[Captain Furious]

Weirdly ECP lists a timing chain kit and a cambelt. Is it like the late 1.8TDDi with a separate belt drive for the cam?

 

It is a belt drive from the crank to the first cam, and the second cam is driven by a chain off the first cam - if that makes sense.

 

This leads to people erroneously claiming it has a timing chain - yeah it does, but you still have a belt to replace.

 

I looked at a couple of Titanium X Sports but at that sort of price, £2-3k, they were all absolute dogs.  There might be a decent one out there for that but you are really at the cheap end of the scale.

[trigger]

How about this Irish plated 1600 saloon in Colchester for £329!

 

 

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201803084362744?atmobcid=soc3

[trigger]

I say saloon, the ad says its a Zetec Estate but Cartell says its a 4 door LX but being Irish plated you can't put the reg in anything.

 

[Captain Furious]

I didn't realise they put anything as small as a 1.6 in them.  Should be a base.

[sierraman]

Seem to be a lot less prone to FTP and injector issues than the Mk3. Like I say I'd considered a Mk2 Focus, but with the Mondeo you get more for your cash.

 

I'm assuming the 1.8TDCI in the Focus is similarly reliable? Fully aware the 1.6 TDCI is a steaming heap of shit.

[trigger]

The 1.8TDCi is a older engine but it's far stronger and reliable than the 1.6's, I had a 2.0 before and that wasn't great, I had the fuel pump pack up on that and cost me £500 and the dash clocks failed too.

[rantingYoof]

I looked at a couple of Titanium X Sports but at that sort of price, £2-3k, they were all absolute dogs.  There might be a decent one out there for that but you are really at the cheap end of the scale.

 

I'm coming to that conclusion to. All have four or five owners behind them, usually part service history and the mileage is at a cambelt interval.

 

They wear the miles well, in fairness, but if you're looking for a bit of a keeper then it's probably the wrong price bracket.

 

I'm keeping an eye out for the ultra-rare new shape S80 2.5T, which is probably about as large inside (albiet a saloon) and with a manual 'box doesn't attract the £530 tax rate. Most S80s have been one-loyal-customer owned from new.

[Captain Furious]

You’re probably right, in general I found Mk4 Mondeos seemed to have hard lives, in terms of bodywork at least. I was looking up to around the 4-5k mark and I didn’t see a single really nice one. Even the one I ended up with was scruffy bodywork wise, but we took it because of the mileage - 40k and got it for a steal - £2.5k on a 10. My mate has since had most of the bodywork done so it’s quite clean now.

 

I looked at one 2.5T version, it was a beautiful looking thing in the pictures and a 1 owner car, I was convinced it was the one. To be fair, the garage did warn me in no uncertain terms that the bodywork wasn’t great and if I was worried about it looking nice to give it a miss. I went for a look anyway - I mean the pictures can’t lie that much and was one owner so it must have been cared for right? - Wrong. It was an absolute minger. Every panel was scratched, dented, badly touched in or resprayed. Bravo for their honesty though

 

I reckon I’d really like a new new Mondeo, I saw a 67 plate on the motorway the other morning, looked absolutely superb. If it drives half as well as it looks it must be a stonkingly good car.

[RichL]

We have had a few of these knocking about at work as pool cars over the years.

 

Great cars

 

 

First one I ever drove was AG58YEF... Same colour and spec!

[warren t claim]

This one's giving me a bit of a cheeky wink.

 

 

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201802264075799?advertising-location=at_cars&sort=sponsored&radius=1501&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&price-to=2000&postcode=ch452nn&make=FORD&year-from=2009&model=MONDEO&page=1

[warren t claim]

Looks a bit tatty but I see the potential. 1.8 super tough lump too.

 

 

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201802284161519?advertising-location=at_cars&sort=sponsored&radius=1501&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&price-to=2000&postcode=ch452nn&make=FORD&year-from=2009&model=MONDEO&page=1

[warren t claim]

If this had a boot my keyboard would resemble the time I ran a trolley over a full bottle of Yop in the laptop aisle in Tesco.

 

 

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201802063467303?advertising-location=at_cars&sort=sponsored&radius=1501&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&price-to=2000&postcode=ch452nn&make=FORD&year-from=2009&model=MONDEO&page=1

[Snipes]

I am now seeing Hilti Mondeos everywhere in south east London/Kent. Always red estates, signwritten on the side (so no doubts what they are), always black trim above the number plate. They look nice, though my personal usual caveat about red paint clashing with red light clusters applies.

I wonder if they’ll be like RAC Transits and be all faded and terrible looking in a few years time?

[sierraman]

How much of a pita is it to swap the belt on the 1.8?

[Captain Furious]

Is that first silver one ex five-o?

 

Looks like a calibrated Speedo

 

[smellypoo]

Is that first silver one ex five-o?

 

Looks like a calibrated Speedo

 

What makes you say that? It looks normal to me, the only oddity being the smaller text km/h scale being on the outer of the Speedo dial... In all fairness I don't even know if that is odd, I normally see that as an inner scale...