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[wuvvum]

35 minutes ago, loserone said:

Sadly I think the moderation on here has overstepped a line a few times this year.  

 

I'm sure someone is pleased with themselves - and I don't mean the mods.

Moderation has overstepped the line a number of times in the past few years imho.

The difference is that previously those, like Bo11ox, who were on the "correct" side of the political spectrum were able to get away with a lot more than some others.  The current crop of moderators seems to be either less overtly political or less inclined to let their political views influence their moderating decisions, which in itself I suppose is a good thing, but has resulted in those who have hitherto managed to avoid the naughty step becoming acquainted with it for the first time.

I really do miss the old days where we all managed to get along just fine with no moderation.  Having said that, there is still far too much that is good on this forum for me to want to up sticks just yet.

[loserone]

1 minute ago, wuvvum said:

Moderation has overstepped the line a number of times in the past few years imho.

I agree with that, but thought we had worked through those times.

[red5]

47 minutes ago, loserone said:

Sadly I think the moderation on here has overstepped a line a few times this year.  

 

I'm sure someone is pleased with themselves - and I don't mean the mods.

Why not? It's their decision. Just like all of them.

[SiC]

1 hour ago, Mr_Bo11ox said:

I've just been moderated for a post a week or two back, I think it was one where I was rude about 'lest we forgetters' and I made a comment about their attitude to Brexit. Anyway the post has been reported for being political, then judged too offensive and thus banished to Autoshite Mantua.

If theres one thing I absolutely fucking hate it's being treated like a naughty 8 yr old (I'm well into middle age) , so, I'm off. Yes i know I know, 'its not an airport' etc etc but if anyone wants to get in touch about anything in future just ping me on FB, plenty of shiters know me on there e.g. wobbler, Trig, Lanky Tim etc so I'm sure you'll be able to get hold of me. Or, my phone number is in the various ads i've placed in the for sale section over the years so bung us a Whatsapp.

Cheers, Bo11ox

Your not the first and won't be the last. Next you'll be labelled a flouncer as you've said you're leaving. Most of the original posters have now gone thanks to over moderation.

Unfortunately most of the mods don't give a shit about people leaving and the community dynamic dieing. I don't know why they don't care but they view others joining as replacements that keep the forum Alice. It maybe the case but the churn doesn't make a solid community like it once was. They tows their highly unpopular bollocks non-political line, thinking it's the right policy despite no evidence to it. What they forget is this arbitrary line is corrosive to keeping a community together. It's never been a popular line and most in the community didn't even want. Yet they've continuously pushed this view against the popular opinion. 

Also it's a load of horseshit when chaseracer said the hidden forum was done at the communities request. It was something that the mods decided was needed and should be request only. The fact it's hidden and request only makes a secret club which only makes things worse.

[SiC]

5 minutes ago, loserone said:

I agree with that, but thought we had worked through those times.

Nope it just simmers in the background. It comes back to light when a few longtime members finally get fed up and then blows up again. Usually when the over moderators step in and start interfering.

It'll get blamed on the seasons/covid/weather... Yet that isn't the root cause of the strife.

[DodgeRover]

I'm only surprised the technical glitch wasnt employed to accidentally deleted his account, he must have the highest number of political posts on the forum

[garbaldy]

Thats just it there is absolutely nothing wrong with Bollox,s posts at all,  his posts are his opinion and he's entitled to hold them and voice them, he as well as all members should not be moderated for that, if people don't like it they shouldn't read them,  

I remember his posts not understanding all the hate towards over zelouse moderation as he was not affected,  it seems now that this forum has now lost one of the old school better contributors, how many more have to go before people realise what the fuck is going on,   

What was it again we ended up with moderators for ? ah that's right dealing with spambots wasn't it.

Great job folks great job.

[stuboy]

Woke up too find some asshat has hit my car... OK its not that bad but pissed me off, I think it happened at work,  trying to get cctv footage from work to see if it was there.

[red5]

11 minutes ago, garbaldy said:

Thats just it there is absolutely nothing wrong with Bollox,s posts at all,  his posts are his opinion and he's entitled to hold them and voice them, he as well as all members should not be moderated for that, if people don't like it they shouldn't read them,  

I remember his posts not understanding all the hate towards over zelouse moderation as he was not affected,  it seems now that this forum has now lost one of the old school better contributors, how many more have to go before people realise what the fuck is going on,   

What was it again we ended up with moderators for ? ah that's right dealing with spambots wasn't it.

Great job folks great job.

None so blind...

The double standards applied were/are clear for all to see. 

I'd second that sentiment - 'another one gone'..although the irony about some of the 'dont' know what you're moaning about' isn't lost on me.

 

Yep. Spambots. And approving new members? Occasionally 'coughing' and the odd 'tut' as guidance? Nah, what you need is this, and utter shit about 'glitches' et al. Oh, and deleting threads that might have discussions about, well, moderation.

[red5]

5 minutes ago, stuboy said:

Woke up too find some asshat has hit my car... OK its not that bad but pissed me off, I think it happened at work,  trying to get cctv footage from work to see if it was there.

Sympathies chief - someone did a job like that on my old D2 and legged it. Hope you get some comeback.

[SiC]

44 minutes ago, garbaldy said:

Thats just it there is absolutely nothing wrong with Bollox,s posts at all,  his posts are his opinion and he's entitled to hold them and voice them, he as well as all members should not be moderated for that, if people don't like it they shouldn't read them,  

Exactly this. They aren't threatening, they aren't offensive, they aren't nasty and they aren't illegal. The only thing they are, are a strong opinion. 

Why should this be moderated?

The only reason we get told political is a forbidden taboo on here is because it causes argument.

Yet you can cause just as much strong argument and disagreement by saying the Rover 75 is a pile of steaming shit. Should this it be verboten too and not allowed to have a strong opinion on here with anything at all?

[red5]

Whoah there ladies, gentlemen, people - common sense and reason?

That'll never catch on.

[wuvvum]

11 minutes ago, SiC said:

the Rover 75 is a pile of steaming shit. 

How very fucking dare you?!  🤬

[DodgeRover]

23 minutes ago, SiC said:

 The only reason we get told political is a forbidden taboo on here is because the Rover 75 is a pile of steaming shit.

I'm reporting that as offensive

[Soundwave]

I sexually identify as a Rover 75, and that is hate speech! 😢

 

[red5]

24 minutes ago, DodgeRover said:

I'm reporting that as offensive

I find your pseudo - offensce offensive.

Not me per se, but on behalf of someone/person/them/they/twats* who can't deal with actual opinions and differences, or being offended.

 

*Self-assembly offense kit. Delete as required. 

Edited February 12, 2021 by red5
Corrected the offence causing auto-correct offence. Bloody Yanks,,,

[anonymous user]

I'm offended that you don't differentiate between offense and offence.

[HMC]

2 hours ago, loserone said:

Sadly I think the moderation on here has overstepped a line a few times this year.  

 

I'm sure someone is pleased with themselves - and I don't mean the mods.

I think it’s unfortunate that the forum lose a lot of its colour these last few years. 

[SiC]

The Rover 75 was of course merely an example to explain a point. I have never driven one so I can't really say if they are.

However what I do believe is that the dash clocks in the Rover 75 are naff awful looking things that should never have left the design room...

Which is probably a more controversial viewpoint on here than anything else.

[HMC]

44 minutes ago, SiC said:

Exactly this. They aren't threatening, they aren't offensive, they aren't nasty and they aren't illegal. The only thing they are, are a strong opinion. 

Why should this be moderated?

The only reason we get told political is a forbidden taboo on here is because it causes argument.

Yet you can cause just as much strong argument and disagreement by saying the Rover 75 is a pile of steaming shit. Should this it be verboten too and not allowed to have a strong opinion on here with anything at all?

I think if people can’t handle Another persons opinion it’s not the opinion holder that should be flung from the Highest tower.

[HMC]

If I don’t like an opinion I can at least accept someone else’s right to hold it

[red5]

1 minute ago, HMC said:

I think if people can’t handle Another persons opinion it’s not the opinion holder that should be flung from the Highest tower.

Not here it seems. Actually, not since the Modgate farce. 

[HMC]

Do we need a pre screening test for members as if new members join, then exhibit a lack of tolerance, then have opinion holder slapped down, all we are left with is a whole load of beige; in the worse sense of the word

[barefoot]

2 minutes ago, SiC said:

The Rover 75 was of course merely an example to explain a point. I have never driven one so I can't really say if they are.

However what I do believe is that the dash clocks in the Rover 75 are naff awful looking things that should never have left the design room...

Which is probably a more controversial viewpoint on here than anything else.

Wanker 

[BorniteIdentity]

5 minutes ago, SiC said:

The Rover 75 was of course merely an example to explain a point. I have never driven one so I can't really say if they are.

However what I do believe is that the dash clocks in the Rover 75 are naff awful looking things that should never have left the design room...

Which is probably a more controversial viewpoint on here than anything else.

They look fine. 

Once someone tells you that the time clock reflects in the windscreen at night you can never unsee it and you’ll want to rip your eyes out but... even once you’ve done that... you’ll still know it’s shining away. 😡 

75s rule. There’s such a rich story behind them, they’re so ingrained in the history of the UK motor car. Their significance is far greater than most know or appreciate. I also love them so y’all can f*** ***.

 

[Fumbler]

2 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

 y’all can f*** ***.

 

[HMC]

For me the richness in the forum is the variety. Cars, people, ideas. I like the variety. Surely the end result of all this is to extinguish individuality at the altar of what exactly?

[Fumbler]

Once you start deleting opinion comments it then becomes a rather slippery slope IME.

I'd like to return to when people would just live and let live, life's too short to be throwing pencils at each other on the Internet.

[BorniteIdentity]

8 minutes ago, Fumbler said:

That is an accurate representation of JUST HOW BRIGHT a Rover 75 clock reflects in the windscreen at night. Seriously, they’re all visible from Any single one of Saturn’s moons. 😠 

[red5]

8 minutes ago, HMC said:

For me the richness in the forum is the variety. Cars, people, ideas. I like the variety. Surely the end result of all this is to extinguish individuality at the altar of what exactly?

Resubmit in Newspeak, then report to the Thought Police.