ChinaTom Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 Just have the business rent it off yourself - great way of accessing the profits* and it’s far enough away. Dead_E23 1
rickvw72 Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 I teach agricultural engineering (fixing tractors, combines etc) and you’ll need some large kit to get anywhere working on these. Some of this stuff is mega expensive and rare second hand so I’d budget and start searching for bits you need. Many folks who use wheel lifts, 20 ton jacks etc need them for ever, so just won’t sell second hand. I’d take an educated guess to set up working on big stuff your looking at spending a couple of hundred grand in kit, which most colleges can’t afford. Not trying to discourage at all, but it’s a costly game. A telehandler that’ll lift a few tonne still is minimum 8 grand for example, and at that your looking 10,000 hrs plus so essentially “end of life” I ran a small garage, and setting that up with used kit cost plenty. I’d guess 20 times more expensive for this type of stuff. red5, Sheefag, JeeExEll and 6 others 9
Noel Tidybeard Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 9 hours ago, Dead_E23 said: This looks like a pretty useful thing to have if you're working on big vehicles. I bet it would be well useful for lifting stuff like toolboxes and oildrums level with the load bed, and you could use it as a mobile platform when working around the outside of the vehicle. trouble is sommat that size is gonna be rated at less than your average pumpy truck which are normally 2 tonnes
spike60 Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 As a plant fitter for decades I'd agree a small fork lift will be useful but brings it's own problems if it's already had a life. I don't know if it's already been mentioned or if it applies to Stalwart wheels and tyres but some off road stuff has the tyres ballasted with a 50% water for stability on slopes, When I worked for the Forestry Commission in the 80's some of bigger stuff was water ballasted making an already heavy wheel way heavier to handle. Heidel_Kakao 1
spike60 Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Noel Tidybeard said: trouble is sommat that size is gonna be rated at less than your average pumpy truck which are normally 2 tonnes It also looks to be electric which need a powerful charger, I think our couple at work need 415v. It also has bugger all ground clearance so won't go on unmade surfaces.
Dead_E23 Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 Ugh, I've just noticed the ad isn't even for the whole forklift - just the mast and forks. I guess a gas truck would be the thing to have, assuming that you don't restore these things in a field?
spike60 Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 Or a relatively small diesel instead of gas engined, our plant shop has a 4 pot diesel Hyster from 1989 which has a jib rather than fork blades and will lift about 3000kg but weighs about 6500kg, - they aren't dainty. Dead_E23 and Heidel_Kakao 2
Dead_E23 Posted June 18, 2021 Posted June 18, 2021 One of these would be handy. (Not to mention a super toy!) The forks will lift 1000kg. Heidel_Kakao 1
Dead_E23 Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 19 hours ago, rickvw72 said: Many folks who use wheel lifts, 20 ton jacks etc need them for ever, so just won’t sell second hand Here's one being discounted because its ex-display (or 'open box'; that kind of idea). What do you reckon to it?
spike60 Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Dead_E23 said: Here's one being discounted because its ex-display (or 'open box'; that kind of idea). What do you reckon to it? I use one regularly and they're very useful for a large fleet but how often do you expect to remove and refit wheels? Perhaps the money could spent on something you'd get more use from like a quality 3/4 drive battery impact gun. Check the trolley is suitable for the tyre diameter and weight as well, ours is only suitable for pretty much standard wagon wheel and tyre combos, anything bigger we get our specialist plant tyre boys to remove with a 8 wheel wagon fitted with a specialist hiab with an every which way grab. Heidel_Kakao 1
Dave_Q Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 Can you lot stop encouraging him please Ghosty, The Moog, Magnificent Rustbucket and 1 other 3 1
Dave_Q Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 Seriously I know we are being nice now and the OPs funding sources and business plan are none of my business, but as far as I can see HK is the entire market for restoring stollys as well as the supply, I cannot see a business here just a man spending lots of money on heavy engineering stuff. I assume stating that gets me on the list, I don't mind. I honestly think having seen H_Ks actions and purchases over the last few weeks that suggesting more heavy shit to buy is irresponsible. I do genuinely hope I am missing something here and he ends up with a successful business not just 14 tanks and no house. Dick Cheeseburger, Fumbler, Minimad5 and 9 others 10 2
Heidel_Kakao Posted June 19, 2021 Author Posted June 19, 2021 1 hour ago, spike60 said: I use one regularly and they're very useful for a large fleet but how often do you expect to remove and refit wheels? Perhaps the money could spent on something you'd get more use from like a quality 3/4 drive battery impact gun. Check the trolley is suitable for the tyre diameter and weight as well, ours is only suitable for pretty much standard wagon wheel and tyre combos, anything bigger we get our specialist plant tyre boys to remove with a 8 wheel wagon fitted with a specialist hiab with an every which way grab. I have not "played" with it yet but the great thing about my MK2 having a HIAB means it should be able to do it's own heavy lifting
Heidel_Kakao Posted June 19, 2021 Author Posted June 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, Dave_Q said: I do genuinely hope I am missing something here and he ends up with a successful business not just 14 tanks and no house. A Stolly is not a tank mate. It's light skinned and has wheels not tracks. When I do buy a tank it will appear in this thread. DodgyBastard and johngarty 1 1
Fumbler Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Heidel_Kakao said: A Stolly is not a tank mate. It's light skinned and has wheels not tracks. When I do buy a tank it will appear in this thread. You're skirting his point- It doesn't matter what they are. They could be made out of cheese for all we know.
Heidel_Kakao Posted June 19, 2021 Author Posted June 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fumbler said: You're skirting his point- It doesn't matter what they are. They could be made out of cheese for all we know. I already said I won't be acknowledging any boring, negative, or inane comments involving my business plan et cetera. Fumbler and johngarty 1 1
Fumbler Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Heidel_Kakao said: I already said I won't be acknowledging boring, negative, or inane witterings involving my business plan etc,. ...and only accepting glutenous praise for your decisions and acquisitions? OK, then. alf892, Talbot and Crackers 3
Heidel_Kakao Posted June 19, 2021 Author Posted June 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Fumbler said: ...and only accepting glutenous praise for your decisions and acquisitions? OK, then. Now you are putting words in my mouth. Please refrain from doing so.
JeeExEll Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 Ok, onwards and upwards, how's progress going with the Stolly restoration? Heidel_Kakao 1
Heidel_Kakao Posted June 19, 2021 Author Posted June 19, 2021 1 minute ago, JeeExEll said: How's progress going with the Stolly restoration? Not bad thanks I am doing at least one full day a week on it so by the time I collect it will be in much better condition. I am going to start painting it next week weather dependent.
red5 Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Heidel_Kakao said: Now you are putting words in my mouth. Please refrain from doing so. Forum. Not your whiteboard. Pat Earrings, alf892, Talbot and 2 others 5
Heidel_Kakao Posted June 19, 2021 Author Posted June 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, red5 said: Heidel_Kakao is an amazing and inspiring person, he is my idol Why thank you red5 that is very kind of you. Hope you are standing by as always?
red5 Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 Oh yes. What for, I'm not quite sure, but standing by nevertheless. chadders and Heidel_Kakao 1 1
Dave_Q Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 56 minutes ago, Heidel_Kakao said: my business plan ? Minimad5, Crackers, Heidel_Kakao and 7 others 3 7
Heidel_Kakao Posted June 19, 2021 Author Posted June 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Dave_Q said: ? How did you hack into my laptop and access my business plan? Phase 1 is accurate, Phase 2 is a secret and yes hopefully Phase 3 does involve profit. puddlethumper, Dave_Q and LightBulbFun 2 1
Mally Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 I reckon it's a loss leader. To get us all to buy key rings. crad, LightBulbFun, alf892 and 2 others 1 4
Dead_E23 Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 Phase 2 involves paint. Heidel_Kakao and ChinaTom 2
rickvw72 Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 I’d reckon you’d need a wheel lift to get the wheel off, kind of an investment and prevents you knackering yourself, which will really fuck up earnings if self employed. I’m 90 percent recovered from a bad abductor tear, and it’s not been right for over 6 months. Could of been catastrophic If still self employed, but I’ve retired into teaching so have just limped around recovering. Heidel_Kakao 1
Spurious Posted June 19, 2021 Posted June 19, 2021 Never mind the 1" drive and 3/4" drive impact tools and big compressors needed to shift stubborn nuts on the best part of 30 years alongside the dollies and lifts needed to move the wheels and parts. I hope this turns out okay.
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