Can someone answer this..Cash in Transit Vehicles.

[0ldCh0d]

I have always been interested in security,cash in transit vehicles & have always wondered, what happens to these vehicles once they are taken out of service? I.e...No longer required.

 

Do they get cut up or do they get sent abroad somewhere?

 

They do not appear to go through the Auctions like Ex Royal Mail Vehicles do, which I guess is because they would probably fall into the wrong hands (Gangsters etc) So basically, what happens to these?

 

 

I know this is not a very Autoshite question, but it is something I have always wondered.

 

These things...

 

[Guest Hooli]

No idea, but it's a good question.

[Timewaster]

It is indeed a good question.

 

I imagine they don't want anyone to see how they are constructed so they get crushed but that's just my thoughts.

 

Incidentally, a mate used to work for them in the 90s and says the cargo is uninsured.

No insurance company would touch them and if they did it would cost millions so the banks and security companies had a 50/50 take it on the chin policy.

[tooSavvy]

.... So good >> A$ has been asked it twice!

 

IIRC.... Can't remember thredd.

 

'Chopped up' was the group mood... lyke

 

 

TS

[Tamworthbay]

I don't know about g4s but I worked for pony express in my student summers as a bike courier and their old secure vans used to go straight to the crushers. They were VERY careful about who poked around them for understandable reasons.

[pshome]

Make your choice:

http://www.geldtransporter.com/nav/verkauf.htm

 

Makes me wonder if any small change to be found under the handbrake.

[DodgeRover]

Usually destroyed unless exported. I think there's one mk2 transit bullion van left in existence.

Some secure mail carriers were also disposed of

[Felly Magic]

There is a specialist secure breakers that also often deals with car industry prototypes, they go there IIRC and are destroyed

[anonymous user]

Usually destroyed unless exported. I think there's one mk2 transit bullion van left in existence.

Some secure mail carriers were also disposed of

Isn't it Fred Transit who has the bullion van

[0ldCh0d]

It must be good fun destroying them, because some of them look proper heavy duty secure.

[0ldCh0d]

Make your choice:

http://www.geldtransporter.com/nav/verkauf.htm

 

Makes me wonder if any small change to be found under the handbrake.

 

This One....

 

 

Sack the above one....Defo This one...

[tooSavvy]

..... you seen the Utoob 'salvaging the Kursk'?

 

You have one? We'll slice it!!

 

 

TS

[Justin Case]

One has managed to escape the crusher:

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/preservedtransport/7102223001/

 

Ex Birmingham City Transport 1935 Daimler COG5, converted to bank van in 1947 and used for taking the fares from the garages to the bank, but they were all pennies in those days, so not much use to today's gangs Now at Aldridge Transport Museum but stored off site. Coincidentally, I was looking over it this morning, no armour plating just roller shutter doors as security*

[dave21478]

I spied these in a general breakers yard a few years ago.

 

Never thought of having a closer look.

 

[tommytwo]

IMHO opinion, the cash in transit vans do not need the contents to be insured because they are only carrying bits of colored paper, which people call money. Governments make this paper acceptable by making it legal to pay taxes with it., otherwise nobody in their right mind would accept it. Its called FIAT money for a reason, Latin for "in place off". In case people have been asleep since the last financial crisis in 2008, the Bank of England has printed more than £375 billion of this paper we have been told is money..What is backing this paper? Nothing.  Where did it come from? It came out of thin air and after the next financial crisis, it will return to the same place. So make sure you spend these pretty bits of paper while you still can!

[Junkman]

Make your choice:

http://www.geldtransporter.com/nav/verkauf.htm

 

Makes me wonder if any small change to be found under the handbrake.

 

 

 

 

GR12 4 camping trip to Syria.

[beko1987]

 

 

GR12 4 camping trip to lincolnshire.

[sierraman]

If you try opening the boxes they carry there's a special red dye called smokecloak that stains the money and you. A lot of the time when they get turned over it's the guard walking to the van that gets it, there's only a maximum of £25,000 in each carrier anyway at any one time, so you wouldn't get say £250,000 or whatever.

 

They are designed so that the guard can lock himself in the vault inside, sometimes you'll see them when he's accidentally locked himself in, it sets an alarm off.

 

You are correct in saying they get broken up, by the time G4S have finished with them they are bollocksed anyway and usually fairly rusty.

[Hendry]

Surely it doesnt matter if gangsters find out how they are constructed and laid out, if they wanted to find out badly enough they could just find an ex security guard who worked on the vans and pay him a wad for information and description, or hold him at gunpoint till he spilled it.

 

What I would like to know is, when the guard walks out of a shop with the box carrycase thing, and slides it in the little hatch at the back of the van before getting back in the van himself, what happens to the box, is there an automated system or a conveyor belt or something that picks it up and moves it further into the van, or is the other guy onboard the van sitting waiting at the hatch ready to open the hatch and grab it when the other bloke puts it in? Random question I know but always wondered since childhood.

 

PS its not a job I fancy, carrying a box full of cash outside a shop to a van, very risky job surely? 

 

Slightly OT but what about when you see standard Merc Sprinters, but over the locks on the exterior door handles is a metal plate? why? surely theres other ways of breaking in than bursting the door locks.

 

Seen a few Transit customs with aftermarket rear door locks, but look properly built into the doors and use a lock with a key similar to a the style of locks you get on UPVC doors, again, why? how is that going to be anymore secure than the factory door handles, locks, deadlocking, etc.

 

Finally, whats the deal with those Transit Customs having the same generic door handles as fitted to most of the rest of the Ford car range, only without the lock integrated into the handle like the car range, they still have a separate old fashioned standalone door lock like 90s Fords had? Is it more secure or something?

[DodgeRover]

Isn't it Fred Transit who has the bullion van

It is indeed. It's a bit of a film star that particular van.

[sierraman]

The carrier goes into an air lock to be retrieved from the other side, so there's not a straight through route into the secure bit.

[D Spares & Tyres]

We had one at college and although I never got to play with it I'm told it was very heavy, underpowered and handled badly

 

A brown mk2 Transit. This was 20 years ago in Bromsgrove.

[Hendry]

It is indeed. It's a bit of a film star that particular van.

 

There was a Transit bullion van in Ashes to Ashes and I think the Danny Dyer film The Business, the same one perhaps? 

[UltraWomble]

Lad I went to college with worked for Securicor in the 80's - the Transit vans all went to the crusher - the lighter duty stuff ( Escort vans with grills on the windows and chubb locks) went via the auctions once de-chubbed.

No idea what G4S (formerly Securicor)  do with their stuff now. Ive only seen the inside of prison vans and they are nowt special really. And if you know what you are doing they can be busted out of without too much difficulty ( we had a lad abscond out of one whilst sat at roadworks).

[DodgeRover]

There was a Transit bullion van in Ashes to Ashes and I think the Danny Dyer film The Business, the same one perhaps?

It's the one that gets held up by a couple of granadas as a road block and some blokes with guns. Flaw being it's bulletproof and laden would have ploughed through the roadblock like swatting a fly....

[0ldCh0d]

Meanwhile in Johannesburg.....

 

http://citizen.co.za/news/news-national/1474096/watch-robbers-blow-up-cash-in-transit-van/

 

 

Saves a bit on scrapping fees I guess....

[sheffcortinacentre]

Mate of mine used to build them, anything transit sized or above gets crushed ,

The weakest point of these vehicles nowadays is the crew.

As it takes to long to gain access.

 

thats the one Fred transit owns had been in storeage for many years (Bank of England I believe ) it was so far out of date it was deemed of no use to crooks.

Been in a few things.

 

Be leave there's an early 60s Austin in secuicor livery dunno if it's a genuine one.

[0ldCh0d]

Mate of mine used to build them, anything transit sized or above gets crushed ,

The weakest point of these vehicles nowadays is the crew.

As it takes to long to gain access.

 

thats the one Fred transit owns had been in storeage for many years (Bank of England I believe ) it was so far out of date it was deemed of no use to crooks.

Been in a few things.

 

Be leave there's an early 60s Austin in secuicor livery dunno if it's a genuine one.

 

Speaking of a genuine one, this is not..........LOL!

 

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-ireland/dublin-criminals-use-fake-cashintransit-van-to-steal-60k-from-business-34279214.html

 

[0ldCh0d]

There was a Transit bullion van in Ashes to Ashes and I think the Danny Dyer film The Business, the same one perhaps? 

 

is it this one?

 

[0ldCh0d]

I also found this website tonight....

 

http://www.fleetservice.co.uk/fleetsales/forsale.html