Kiltox Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Not guilty - I didn't clean it at any point so it was like that when I got it beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 Got some nice screws out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 I bought the vax over today, less powerful than the miele but it won't run as hot And after 30 minutes I had this small square a bit cleaner I need to empty the shed and find the big guns I think. The boot carpet is matted flat, and holding all the grit and sand. So I moved onto the drivers footwell Which came up much better with a quick going over It also used up 3/4 its header tank in water going home last night and back again this morning. Might keep water in the boot until I replace the thermostat and see if it's leaking from there or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 If it's using it that quickly I've been driving around with it empty for a while I reckon Did you run it up to temperature after filling it up before and check the level again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 No, I filled it up to the line and left it for another 5 hours, then drove it home. Ditto today... It can't be emptying the system, as the coolant warning light hasn't come on, or just doesn't work. But I'd expect some symptoms, so it must be emptying it to a certain degree then being happy. The heaters do nothing, but it's not too cold atm, plus the heated seat works fine! I can't run it up to temperature atm either as it never gets to temperature! April the 8th is the next free day I'll have to have a go at the thermostat. Don't suppose anyone fancies taking smudges of the haynes manual bit for it on a 2.2dci do they? I know it's a free car, and you've all said don't do anything to it but I'm not killing it over a thermostat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDB_Inc Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Oh gawd..... Make sure the drains stay clear, it's those blocking that causes the UCH (body ECU) to get wet & die. They exit behind the arch liners at the back of the front arches.Wait you're saying the sun roof drains to behind the front wheels? So there's a 7 foot long pipe all the way from the roof , through the A pillar down to the wheel arch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Wait you're saying the sun roof drains to behind the front wheels? So there's a 7 foot long pipe all the way from the roof , through the A pillar down to the wheel arch?Worse than that. The drains go from the sunroof, down to a catcher/funnel bit next to the body computer. This bit then goes into another drain down to the wheel arch. If the wheel arch drain is blocked, the catcher/funnel bit overflows on the body computer. So bad, it's almost as if they designed it to fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Worse than that. The drains go from the sunroof, down to a catcher/funnel bit next to the body computer. This bit then goes into another drain down to the wheel arch. If the wheel arch drain is blocked, the catcher/funnel bit overflows on the body computer. So bad, it's almost as if they designed it to fail!You're making me feel bad for not checking them yet... It rained overnight too... I'll probably forget again tomorrow, found ye old stiff carpet scrubbing brushes from my old detailing days! And I put the shampoo stuff for the vax in the boot. Would have got the steamer but it's 40 minutes of emptying the shed away, so fuck that tonight. Important stuff first eh!? Checked the coolant though, about 1cm lower than lunchtime, so it's obviously not properly drinking it. It must be running the SVM approved total loss cooling system. Maybe if I keep topping it up with new coolant, by the time I do the stat it would have had flushed itself and all I'll need to do is fit the stat, top it up and bleed it! I did however reset each window and the sunroof after the battery died, thanks to SIC for the workshop manuals! Not braved looking at the wiring diagram yet. I also popped the passenger door puddle light bulb out and tried the keyless entry on that door and it didn't work, so I put the bulb back in and it can stay not working, I very rarely ever use the passenger door anyway, and a quick fondle of the rear handle en route to the front unlocks it anyway. I've been keeping the keycard in my wallet, and my wallet inside my coat, so feel mega swish just walking up to the car and getting in and starting it! That will all fall to bits when the weather gets better and I no longer require a coat, but until then I'll enjoy it! The rear passenger door puddle light and boot light do not work either. I also broke the glovebox light housing, so there's no light in the glovebox which isn't really a massive issue... It did not work anyway and the bulb was fine. Emptied out the Xantia a bit too earlier, the cabin is now empty bar a shit Vax Rapide shampooer on the back seat. Boot has a burnt out DC04, the box of shit I always keep in the boot, an empty cardboard box and my spanner box in, will sort that another day before it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 you could always put the fob on a shoelace round your neck Dave_Q and beko1987 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 It used up 1cm of coolant this morning, I topped it up before leaving work, checked 40 minutes later at home and the level had not dropped. Heaters are warm now and the bleed valve pissed out water whwn I opened it. Hopefully it's balanced the system now, so I can keep an eye on it and see how much it really uses. Then change the stat One thing I noticed though, when pottering at 40 say, very light/no throttle on a slight downhill road, the box drops into neutral. Was worried a bit, but it picks up fine with throttle. Should it do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The box is a bit weird sometimes but while it drives without slipping and banging it'll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm not even sure it does drop into neutral, 8 can't feel the change, just the Rev needle drops to idle. No banging, few flared changes sometimes at 45 on light throttle, but the xm did that, must be right on its change limit and the throttle position sends conflicting signals. Light jab up 10mph sorts that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 It wants a fluid change I reckon. Not worth doing though. Revs have always dropped really low with foot off the throttle, don't think it's fucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Our local garage still does air for 50p so took the fronts from 29 and 30psi to 39, and the rears from 30 to 32. The spare needed the flat tyre button pushing, eventually it showed 6psi and took 33psi without exploding, so I'll see if it holds air. The heaters are quite warm now it has coolant in, temp gague still shows low, but that's promising. The OBD port seems to not work though. Plugged my bluetooth thing in to try Oh No Renault, or Torque, was gonna try and see if I could bring up the coolant temperature just to check the dash isn't lying and the engine is getting megahot, hopefully it's running cool but no power seemed to go to the device. Is there a special renault trick I need to do to get the diag port working? My bluetooth things works fine (as in works with torque, no idea if it works with ohno yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 The OBD port is dead yeah I've tried it before sorry should have said I've got a couple of pro garage diagnostic tools so pretty sure it's dead - guess it's wiring or hopefully a fuse The temperature gauge is accurate though. Checked with a heat camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Ah fair enough, means my friend didn't break my obd thing when he used it last! Good to know about the engine not running hot and the dash telling fibs, not going to get time to change the Stat for a while and I need to pop to somerset next weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25v6turbo Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Brilliant purchase! got the identical car but with the V6 24V lump same as SIC,OK the gearknob wooden insert is rare and not fitted to all versions,only ones with the wooden pack inlay option,also the phone holder is an original option although it does have handsfree setup Bluetooth as standard being the Initiale its top of the range with only 17" Sliverstone shit alloys as an option(you have 16" Scala alloys)tinted rear windows and part wood steering wheel as an option,the sports tourer IS a great car in facelift version(March 2005-July 2007)a few problem do still carry on from the earlier models such as tailgate issues often water in the glass button not allowing you to open the tailgate,blocked front sunroof drain tubes,and blocked scuttle drains,the glovebox is missing its torx screw to hold it in,also the tabs might be broken due to it being removed to change the pollen filter,all wheel sensors on Laguna are a pain and note that the wheels are all colour coded to fit on the exact corner of the car and programmed in so if you mix them about the dash will show a different wheel being adjusted,so on the tyre valve its red NSF,green NSR,black OSR,yellow OSF,your car is Twightlight blue(472)with the rarer beige interior most are black which was a no cost option,cream leather was a factory option,mine has this,there are enough of us on here to keep you informed and hopefully keep it running for a bit longer....if you need any bits let me know,just broken a 51 Initiale and hopefully getting later 05 facelift shortly to break.both are V6. oldcars and beko1987 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Awesome knowledge, cheers! I've decided to not reinstate the carminat system (unless you know of any cheap head units and glove box bit, although will it all need coding together and how the hell does that work? Otherwise I'll take it all out and offer it up cheap. Not entirely sure if the system was removed due to its previous taxi status, or if it broke in another way) but do intend on cleaning up the interior, even more so now I know it's rare! It's pretty mint under the dirt, steering wheel is a bit worn, gear shifter gaiters a bit worn, but the seats are in good order under the grime. Im hoping Kiltox's tailgate issues were partly due to the glass not shutting correctly as the wiper spindle caught on the motor and held the glass out slightly. I'll clean all the rubbers up, plus I cleaned the rubber on the tailgate switch when I had that off so hopefully it'll seal better now. Not going to bother with the tyre sensors, it sounds expensive, and I can see if one goes flat! Must check the sunroof drains, do keep forgetting to do that! I have a massive selection of ransom screws, sure some will fit the glove box! Interesting to hear the phone thing in the armrest is oem, I was going to try and remove it but it sounds like it'll be wired into the car pretty well so may just leave it alone! I quite like the alloys, tyres are nice and cheap for brands I've heard of too it that size! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25v6turbo Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 No probs,pleased you like it and are trying to smarten it up!,often the door pull handles are worn badly aswell with this colour interior and the black plastic is showing through,the hazard swith is easy to change,just open the centre armrest and pop the surround trim up then release the switch,bit tricky to get to the tabs but its not terribleother common issues..ALL chrome end caps on the outer door handles crack or peel revealing white undercoat,and NSF cap is often missing if so let me know I have several brand new...Headlamps mist over.Headlamp washer stop workingDoors don't always lock with handsfreeFolding mirrors don,t foldRear parking sensors pack upCabasse stereo doesn,t take 6 CDsPlus Sat nav issues but you already know about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25v6turbo Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just to add the 2.2 G9T engine is belt driven,the later M9R Nissan engine is the chain driven unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Ah so mine has a cambelt then? Cambelt roulette it is! My wheel wobble has moved now the tyres have the correct pressures in too, it's now at 55 to 60 then stops. Slightly more confident a good track and balance will cure that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Brilliant purchase! got the identical car but with the V6 24V lump same as SIC,OK the gearknob wooden insert is rare and not fitted to all versions,only ones with the wooden pack inlay option,also the phone holder is an original option although it does have handsfree setup Bluetooth as standard being the Initiale its top of the range with only 17" Sliverstone shit alloys as an option(you have 16" Scala alloys)tinted rear windows and part wood steering wheel as an option,the sports tourer IS a great car in facelift version(March 2005-July 2007)a few problem do still carry on from the earlier models such as tailgate issues often water in the glass button not allowing you to open the tailgate,blocked front sunroof drain tubes,and blocked scuttle drains,the glovebox is missing its torx screw to hold it in,also the tabs might be broken due to it being removed to change the pollen filter,all wheel sensors on Laguna are a pain and note that the wheels are all colour coded to fit on the exact corner of the car and programmed in so if you mix them about the dash will show a different wheel being adjusted,so on the tyre valve its red NSF,green NSR,black OSR,yellow OSF,your car is Twightlight blue(472)with the rarer beige interior most are black which was a no cost option,cream leather was a factory option,mine has this,there are enough of us on here to keep you informed and hopefully keep it running for a bit longer....if you need any bits let me know,just broken a 51 Initiale and hopefully getting later 05 facelift shortly to break.both are V6.Love reading stuff like this. beko1987 and egg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 if you need any bits let me know,just broken a 51 Initiale and hopefully getting later 05 facelift shortly to break.both are V6.When you do, let me know! I broke some plastic breather pipes on mine - currently repaired with copious amounts of silicone. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 One thing I noticed though, when pottering at 40 say, very light/no throttle on a slight downhill road, the box drops into neutral. Was worried a bit, but it picks up fine with throttle. Should it do that?Mine does that and so did the AW55 in the Saab. I don't think it's actually in neutral. I think it's just there isn't enough spinning on the transmission side of the torque converter to force the engine side to turn quicker. Just a quirk of slush autos afaik. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 That's good to know. It seems to be happy doing it, so it can carry on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Just checked the coolant and not a drop used. Which is nice. Queuing up for fuel earlier the needle went to the normal mark and the heaters got hot! It held that all the way home too. I also took advantage of my shitty hoover videos putting me back in the black by going £68.69 back into the red for 58l of fuel.(get paid Thursday so I'm only borrowing it from myself) After reaching the heady heights of 1,132 miles of range after I reset the computer it settled down to 670,which would be nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Good news about the coolant, seems like it must have been an airlock in the system. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 I reckon that's part of the issue, and me topping it up and just driving has forced it out. I think it still needs a thermostat but I can deal with it running cold for now, although maybe with more driving it will revive itself, who knows, but we shall find out! oldcars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 My 75 diesel never used to get fully up to temp. New stat and bleed the system and its spot on now. Still a bit slow but i think there all like that. MPG improved too. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Stat don't seem to expensive, if this is the correct one. https://www.onlinecarparts.co.uk/spare-parts/renault/thermostat/laguna-ii-bg0-1/20813.html beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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