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[CreepingJesus]

Definitely. It had the measure of any more modern multivalve up to 450 horse. Even some of the highly boosted 500s. Tackled roads like the A701 at 56 no bother too! Beats my current TGXs hands down.

If it was my money, one of them, or an early R420 would be top of the list.

 

Magnum hangs its' head in shame. Fine after a long cool bucket of water though.

 

[Felly Magic]

MAN can't build owt these days, their engines are utter fucking wank, their bus engines last 12 months tops, and a firm locally is converting all their MAN powered buses to Cummins!

[scruff]

It's karma for killing ERF 

[MarvinsMom]

its typical german bullshit.

 

german thigs are wonderfull blah blah blah.

 

no they are not. at best the are no worse than anyone elses product, at worsed thay are just complete dog shit.

 

and chances are they will be dog shit.

[Vantman]

 

My old 190.29 with Deutz air cooled engine,a damn fine lorry. The only tricky bit was it was short wheelbase but had no sliding fifth wheel.

[MarvinsMom]

MAN = Emma Enn.

 

strange, spelt out phonetically like that all i see is enima? (the whole soapy water up the bum thing)

[scruff]

Here's my steed with a typical load. It's not a real ERF being mostly German, but it does have a Cummins M11 380 with a jake brake. 

 

ERF ECT by KevinMillsEsq, on Flickr

 

C+E in two weeks...

[Inspector Morose]

MMM, M11. Like an L10 but one betterer.

[MarvinsMom]

but these go to 11...

[Inspector Morose]

Have we had this yet?

 

 

[MarvinsMom]

what the deuce???

[Inspector Morose]

Seamlessly ripped from tractor wiki

 

 

The Quest 80 Engineering Ltd firm was formed at Telford in Shropshire in the North of England as a design consultancy to develop trucks and buses for the South African Sigma Corporation but today have now since moved from Telford in England to Harare in Zimbabwe Africa where they are now based.

 

 

This English manufacturer started originally with the development of buses as described below but their first truck was the 1984 Quest F1646 an original and technically advanced lorry model that was very advanced and very innovative, with self-levelling air suspension and a very unusual cab design above the windscreen. They are available in long and short wheelbase versions. Of the few that were made so far, some had Perkins T6.354 Diesel engines with Leyland gearboxes while others had Mercedes OM352 Diesel with ZF S6-36 Gearboxes.Every Quest truck produced used Rockwell axles front and rear. Even when built with fibreglass cabs their trucks were still very heavy restricting payloads to 8 Tons that meant 2 Tons below average.This and the highly unconventional design and style probably led to their demise after about 500 trucks of all types were manufactured. By late 1985 Quest 80 Engineering Ltd were bought by the United Engineering Industries Group and 18 months later production ended. In 1986 this company was then reorganized and reinstated but moving to Harare in Zimbabwe trading as Quest Motor Corporation Limited and are owned by Leyland Overseas Holding and also assemble both heavy Leyland roadtractors and Scammell trucks.

 

Quest 80 Engineering was also deeply involved in battery-electric trolleybus hybrids and those that were produced around 150 of them were for export only all going to South Africa under the Sigma Corporation who assembled and built the coachwork shells on them in Johannesburg.The first units were diesel-electric trolleybuses for operation on or off overhead lines in this city. These were followed by a number of high-floor diesel buses for Johannesburg as well with Gardner or Mercedes Diesel engines located behind the drivers cab at a slight angle to the offside chassisframe sidemember.Some bus models had conventional leaf springs and others bus models air suspension.

 

Another third and last version had a low floor design that forms the basis for an articulated model for operation in Belgium while another one for Holland is an updated version and is a hybrid type trolleybus on 6 wheels with twin steer using battery electric power and this unti carries 3 Tons of underfloor batteries. Trucks have now taken over completely since the early 1980s for Quest 80 Engineering Limited that have found reasonable sales with the Quest F-Series.

[willswitchengage]

MAN can't build owt these days, their engines are utter fucking wank, their bus engines last 12 months tops, and a firm locally is converting all their MAN powered buses to Cummins!

 

There's a 'suspicion' that it's the EGR system recycling crap into the engine - one of my classmates at University started a PhD looking into EGR filtration

[twosmoke300]

That's what happens when you make an engine eat it's own shit

[Slappy]

I'd been looking for stuff about Quest before (their buses, didn't even know they'd made trucks!) without much success, but that's just solved it in 1 go!

[Split_Pin]

I have a Trucking International magazine from 1993 and there's a big article about a driver who was still running a Quest 80 with a box on the back. He said you had to watch for cracks in the chassis as they were so strong.

[Inspector Morose]

I'd love one of the buses. The main problem was that they were so unbelievably shit, you never knew whether it would return back to the garage or you'd have to go out and sweep it up off of a street somewhere. Excelsior of Bounemouth ordered 50 bespoke Quest 80s of a unique design or them. After many fires, even on delivery the order was cut short and the few delivered, sold off at great haste.

I love them though. It was the idea off engineers in a shed in Telford going " if we stuck the engine in a corner then chain drive the output to the gearbox then a short prop to the axle, we could get a low floor bus out of this" never mind that the chain drive was crap, the gearbox manual ( and a ford one at that) with cable control by a small lever on the right of the driver and the engine a super updated ford 360 turbo diesel used to running in the back of boats.

A cast of "well it SHOULD work"

[Split_Pin]

Christ, that sounds SHITE!

[CreepingJesus]

There's a 'suspicion' that it's the EGR system recycling crap into the engine - one of my classmates at University started a PhD looking into EGR filtration

Empirically, there's something in that.

One of 'mine' is a 480 with the EGR only D28 motor. 950,000 on it, and it'll drink 2L a day, without a wisp from the exhaust. A couple of litres of hydraulic oil down its' throat shuts it up for a day or two.

The other is a D20 440, EGR and cat. 750,000 on it, and it'll do a litre on a bad day. Constantly shows up emissions faults. Wonder why.

The newer EGR/AdBlue/cat D20 440s are nosing over the 500,000 Mark and going the same way. Nobody is surprised, and the bosses DGAF until someone buys a £40 bottle of oil...

 

Some rare-ish shite for you. Plenty of tippers about, not many artics. According to the driver, it's best described as crude, but it pulls strong.

 

 

Good luck with the Class 1 Scruff!

[wuvvum]

Don't think I've ever seen a Hino artic in this country.

[CreepingJesus]

That used to be one of two. The other's an organ donor now. Only one I know of on the road up here: even farmers and Irish hauliers wouldn't buy them.

And both of those two started as demo trucks.

[cms206]

Is the other one that 6x2 unit that Malcolms had? SF57 JRZ or something?

[CreepingJesus]

No these were a pair of 4x2s with the inappropriate Euro spec 1000L tanks. Like you'd want to go into Europe in that.

Forgot about Malcolm's one! Knowing them, it's probably on site duties somewhere horrible. Haven't seen it on the road in ages.

[cms206]

No these were a pair of 4x2s with the inappropriate Euro spec 1000L tanks. Like you'd want to go into Europe in that.

Forgot about Malcolm's one! Knowing them, it's probably on site duties somewhere horrible. Haven't seen it on the road in ages.

Not seen it myself in long enough, last I saw it was allover white with it's usual tipping trailer so I'd assume with a subbie; whatever happened to that huge batch of Hinos WHM bought in 2006/7?!

[CreepingJesus]

Landfill?

 

Or MAN offered a part exchange deal they couldn't refuse. Didn't last long either way, which is surprising given that Malcolm's approach to engineering is a lot like Hino's.

"Haw! Driver! Haud yer wheesht! There's two doors and a seat, whit else ye efter ya fud?" Said a Malcolm's spokesman in a press release today.

[Felly Magic]

Hino tippers seem to be vanishing from around here too, sadly they seem to have been replaced with MAN trucks. Out of the frying pan into the fire?

[rml2345]

I think the problem Hino had was the right product at the wrong time. That and them being a bit outdated in the cab department.

Quest did some utterly mental buses but I didn't know they did mental trucks too. It looks a bit like a Shelvoke and Drewry bin lorry.

[Vantman]

 

Another from my past,D Series with L10 Cummins ex Ford Motor Company fleet,a nice motor but I didnt keep it very long as I bought it for a one of caravan moving contract.

[mercrocker]

I do like a D.  Hard to believe these have been around for 50 years now!

[danthecapriman]

I like the D series trucks, nice looking things.

There's a K reg one in Portsmouth, I often pass on the way to work, it looks totally worn out and rough but it's on the road and seems to move around a lot.