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[martc]

16 minutes ago, auntiemaryscanary said:

Any idea what it's towing?

No idea, could be the base of a fractionating column. But the picture is from here, and there's plenty of other wonderful pics - 

https://public.fotki.com/boballoa/scottish-hauliers-s/lanarkshire/strathclyde-transpo/

Here's a couple of examples - 

[EyesWeldedShut]

... and a bit of Iranian irony - I knew we were flogging cheese to 'the arabs' when I was in school but I had no idea that they were making Scottish Feta?

[Matty]

40 minutes ago, martc said:

A Futuro House being transported through Todmorden 1971. These were made in Finland so I guess it came off a ferry, Newcastle or Hull?

My locality. It looks little differant 50 odd years on 

[sutty2006]

13 hours ago, Matty said:

My locality. It looks little differant 50 odd years on 

Let me guess, double yellows, street signs and speed cameras now? 🤣

[sutty2006]

In for MOT today 

14 litre twin split 💪

 

[quicksilver]

5 hours ago, sutty2006 said:

In for MOT today 

14 litre twin split 💪

 

Nice. Must be its first MOT in quite a while as it's been a showman's special and they're exempt.

[reductiongear]

On 10/11/2024 at 16:30, martc said:

No idea, could be the base of a fractionating column. But the picture is from here, and there's plenty of other wonderful pics - 

https://public.fotki.com/boballoa/scottish-hauliers-s/lanarkshire/strathclyde-transpo/

Here's a couple of examples - 

Can remember an old seddon Atkinson pulling into the stockyard in Rotherham when I was parked up there overnight in the summer.

[martc]

23 hours ago, reductiongear said:

Can remember an old seddon Atkinson pulling into the stockyard in Rotherham when I was parked up there overnight in the summer.

Was it in commercial use? We did have some discussion about the oldest lorry still in revenue use, it could be a contender.

[reductiongear]

1 minute ago, martc said:

Was it in commercial use? We did have some discussion about the oldest lorry still in revenue use, it could be a contender.

I believe it was. It was hauling a load. Had a flatbed on back from what I can remember. I remember the sound of it more than anything. 

[Dyslexic Viking]

There is a 1942 Dodge for sale here that I have looked at a lot but there are some odd things about it.

These were very common here but not 1942 models and it is right hand drive and the wheels and tires are unusual they look like British desert wheels/tyres and the front protection above the bumper and fuel tank is also unusual.

 

And after a bit of searching, my suspicions have been confirmed, this is most likely an ex British Army truck. Below is one.

 

I would love to know the story behind this one. And does anyone know how common Dodge was in the British Army?

[martc]

[martc]

7 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

There is a 1942 Dodge for sale here that I have looked at a lot but there are some odd things about it.

These were very common here but not 1942 models and it is right hand drive and the wheels and tires are unusual they look like British desert wheels/tyres and the front protection above the bumper is also unusual.

 

And after a bit of searching, my suspicions have been confirmed, this is most likely an ex British Army truck. Below is how is one.

 

I would love to know the story behind this one. And does anyone know how common Dodge was in the British Army?

Wikipedia has a lot of info about Dodge lorries used by the allies. From a quick scan of it it's more likely to be an Australian Army Dodge,  than British.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_WC_series#:~:text=Both the Dodge half-ton,1942%2C under War Department contracts.

[martc]

[martc]

[Supernaut]

53 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

There is a 1942 Dodge for sale here that I have looked at a lot but there are some odd things about it.

These were very common here but not 1942 models and it is right hand drive and the wheels and tires are unusual they look like British desert wheels/tyres and the front protection above the bumper and fuel tank is also unusual.

 

And after a bit of searching, my suspicions have been confirmed, this is most likely an ex British Army truck. Below is one.

 

I would love to know the story behind this one. And does anyone know how common Dodge was in the British Army?

That's the sort of thing I'd love to own one day.

An old truck, but not a full on HGV. Just something that size.

[Dyslexic Viking]

It's strange to think about it with a modern view, but this size truck was what was the normal size in Norway back in the day and they did everything.

Dodge trucks in Norway.

 

Dodge in Ørtangen in Vadsø and the truck on the right is a French Matford left behind by the Germans.

 

Oslo

 

Milk transport Nes Hedemark

 

Milk transport Helgøya

 

[Dyslexic Viking]

Older Dodge model trucks in Norway

Moelven 1943 with woodgas generator

 

Norwegian forces during the liberation 1945

 

 

With bus body

[Dyslexic Viking]

Dodge trucks were also sold under the Fargo name here. Here's to Fargo trucks.

 

[Vantman]

[warch]

On 15/11/2024 at 17:06, Dyslexic Viking said:

There is a 1942 Dodge for sale here that I have looked at a lot but there are some odd things about it.

These were very common here but not 1942 models and it is right hand drive and the wheels and tires are unusual they look like British desert wheels/tyres and the front protection above the bumper and fuel tank is also unusual.

 

And after a bit of searching, my suspicions have been confirmed, this is most likely an ex British Army truck. Below is one.

 

I would love to know the story behind this one. And does anyone know how common Dodge was in the British Army?

The British Army used a really wide range of native and imported kit and vehicles, with most of their light trucks supplied by Morris and Bedford, but thanks to Total War (very much a British concept) and the need to mechanise the entire army every manufacturer was redirected to built vehicles and equipment for the war effort. 

Obviously Dodge were a US manufacturer so they came into allied service during the Lend Lease Program (1941). IIRC they were usually used for specialised roles, like command cars, radio vans and ambulances (the last two were both panel vans). I think Dodge troop carriers were much less common in British service, but that isn't to say they weren't used. RHD is a bit of a giveaway on this one. 

I'm sure you already know this but neither the Axis nor the Allies were above using enemy equipment that had been left behind. General Montgomery had a Lancia van body refitted on a Leyland chassis after it was abandoned by the Italian army in North Africa. And the Germans were apparently very keen on the deeply cool Scammell Pioneers that the British abandoned after Dunkirk. 

Here is one in Luftwaffe service.

[danthecapriman]

Dodge were also built in various countries too which is why they came with different names like Fargo and Kew. Obviously during war time those factories would have been used to build trucks, tanks, planes ammo etc etc for the war effort.

16 hours ago, warch said:

The British Army used a really wide range of native and imported kit and vehicles, with most of their light trucks supplied by Morris and Bedford, but thanks to Total War (very much a British concept) and the need to mechanise the entire army every manufacturer was redirected to built vehicles and equipment for the war effort. 

Obviously Dodge were a US manufacturer so they came into allied service during the Lend Lease Program (1941). IIRC they were usually used for specialised roles, like command cars, radio vans and ambulances (the last two were both panel vans). I think Dodge troop carriers were much less common in British service, but that isn't to say they weren't used. RHD is a bit of a giveaway on this one. 

I'm sure you already know this but neither the Axis nor the Allies were above using enemy equipment that had been left behind. General Montgomery had a Lancia van body refitted on a Leyland chassis after it was abandoned by the Italian army in North Africa. And the Germans were apparently very keen on the deeply cool Scammell Pioneers that the British abandoned after Dunkirk. 

Here is one in Luftwaffe service.

That’s interesting about the Pioneer’s that got captured!

It happened with tanks too. The Germans captured massive amounts of French tanks and equipment after overrunning the French army including lots of the Char B1 heavy tanks which were pressed into German service. 
Even on the eastern front they captured various operational tanks which either went back to Germany for evaluation or got painted with an iron cross and used by the German army. Some years back a T34 was found at the bottom of a river and pulled out… when it was washed off after recovery it had an iron cross painted on! 
They also used captured KV1 heavy tanks and a handful of captured KV2 heavy tanks, which were often used as mobile observation and communication vehicles due to their enormous turret. 
The Soviet army did the same sort of thing using captured Panzer 3’s which they managed to recover in good numbers, but they cut the turret off and built armoured casemate’s in its place then fitted soviet guns to create tank destroyers out of them known as the SU76i (the ‘i’ designation meant captured).

[Dyslexic Viking]

Ex German army Vomag in Norway in 1948.

[Dyslexic Viking]

If any one remember, I bought a book last winter about vehicles during the war in Norway. And Norway seemed like a dumping ground for everything the Germans didn't like and found unsuitable but also what they liked, so there was a lot of different trucks here after the war, Matford, Vomag, Peugeot, Citroen, Tatra, Steyr, Einheitsdiesel, Opel and much, much more.

After the war there were large collection points where the ex German vehicles were collected and auctioned off and anything that was considered too strange such as Russian trucks was sold for scrap. There was a desperate shortage of trucks so anyone who needed one had to go to these auctions and buy one.

I am trying to find some more pictures as some of these ex German trucks were interesting.

[Dyslexic Viking]

Ex German trucks after the war

Ford

 

Opel Blitz 

 

 

[danthecapriman]

24 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

Ex German trucks after the war

Ford

 

Opel Blitz 

 

 

Those Opel Blitz trucks were quite common across Europe in the decades after the war in use for all sorts of things. I guess there were loads of them around and lots of spares too. Likewise the US army trucks, and even some of British stuff that stayed in Europe and didn’t go back to the UK. I know in France the Opels, GMC’s and Bedford’s were used for removals vans, farm trucks etc etc.

I wonder if the same happened in North Africa after all the fighting stopped? 
Obviously there was loads of dead equipment left in the deserts (some is still there!), but after the war finished there must have been so much surplus equipment that it just wasn’t worth taking it all back home.

[jon.k]

Here’s one local to me. Still working 80 years later as far as I know.

from flikr  (evt4142) 

[danthecapriman]

48 minutes ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

If any one remember, I bought a book last winter about vehicles during the war in Norway. And Norway seemed like a dumping ground for everything the Germans didn't like and found unsuitable but also what they liked, so there was a lot of different trucks here after the war, Matford, Vomag, Peugeot, Citroen, Tatra, Steyr, Einheitsdiesel, Opel and much, much more.

After the war there were large collection points where the ex German vehicles were collected and auctioned off and anything that was considered too strange such as Russian trucks was sold for scrap. There was a desperate shortage of trucks so anyone who needed one had to go to these auctions and buy one.

I am trying to find some more pictures as some of these ex German trucks were interesting.

There was a video on YouTube I watched a while back of archive footage and photos of places in Europe after the war had ended and they had literally designated fields for storage of surplus equipment and weapons. Anything that could be recovered or was left in the way was dragged there and just dumped in these fields. 
Obviously some of it was destroyed from battle or destroyed by the retreating crews but there was all sorts there from piles of rifles, trucks, armoured cars and tanks. I’d imagine most of it was scrapped, particularly the damaged German stuff. Although quite a few European nations did take the German stuff that was still ok and pressed it into service as their own military equipment. Things like Panther tanks etc were definitely used. Pretty sure the French and Polish armies had some for a while.

[Dyslexic Viking]

3 minutes ago, danthecapriman said:

There was a video on YouTube I watched a while back of archive footage and photos of places in Europe after the war had ended and they had literally designated fields for storage of surplus equipment and weapons. Anything that could be recovered or was left in the way was dragged there and just dumped in these fields. 
Obviously some of it was destroyed from battle or destroyed by the retreating crews but there was all sorts there from piles of rifles, trucks, armoured cars and tanks. I’d imagine most of it was scrapped, particularly the damaged German stuff. Although quite a few European nations did take the German stuff that was still ok and pressed it into service as their own military equipment. Things like Panther tanks etc were definitely used. Pretty sure the French and Polish armies had some for a while.

And didn't Israel buy some ex-German materiel? Think I remember reading they had some German tanks and other stuff.

[danthecapriman]

1 minute ago, Dyslexic Viking said:

And didn't Israel buy some ex-German materiel? Think I remember reading they had some German tanks and other stuff.

Yes I think so. I think most of it was things like Panzer 3 and 4 tanks. They also used an awful lot of ex US army stuff like Sherman’s. 
Later on when there was conflict with Egypt the Isreali’s captured lots of former Soviet equipment, including IS3 and IS2 tanks and ISU152 tank destroyers. Much of it is still over there as museum pieces.

Some old tanks were actually buried in the ground leaving just the turret and gun sticking out and used as pill boxes!

[Vantman]