320Touring's Toledo FIN

[Split_Pin]

Good to see it getting all this done, a nice gearchange is indeed a joy

[320touring]

Your man works quickly!

A few selected pictures:

 

In short order, the gearbox was on the floor

Looks ok from this angle.

 

Not so much from this one:

It's hoachin with oil! 

Initial thoughts were that the crank seal had failed..

A dry crank seal area, and flywheel face of the clutch pressure plate suggest it was not at fault.

 

Further investigation suggests 'ats yer sump gasket DEID'

a new one has been ordered at terrible expense (£9+vat) and is on its way.

[Jim Bell]

Cheap fix. If you ignore everything else and consider only the gasket price.  

[Tickman]

Fast work indeed

[big_al_granvia]

nae bad graft, drap sump, gie it a guid wash oot, new gasket, fresh oil and job is braw

[Jim Bell]

It's after 17:00 so he's either finished or on the time and half overtime rate. 

[320touring]

3 minutes ago, Jim Bell said:

It's after 17:00 so he's either finished or on the time and half overtime rate. 

Well......

[hairnet]

11 minutes ago, 320touring said:

Well......

how far down did ya throw it?

[320touring]

Where were we? Ah yes.

Parts arrived:)

Shiny new LUK clutch - the early 190mm version. Later toledos had a 200mm one.

Next up is the release bearing - on the 020 box this is away at the opposite end from the clutch - something Maestro owners will recognise.

 

Time to crack on with refitting?

Further investigation suggests otherwise..

We decided replacing the crank seal was sensible as the bugger is already in bits

 

How about we put it back together now?

Not quite...

Gear linkage time!

There was some* slip in the old mechanism.. missing bushes and tired cups saw that was a given.

How much?

Find out here:

Aye "ATS YER GEAR LINKAGE FUCKT"  as they say up here.

Nevertheless, this was all forseen, and new parts had been procured.



 

"NOW, surely, for the love of all that is Holy, can this now go back together?"

 

 

Enter stage left, my Mate Dom.

Dom is one of these chaps who is annoyingly mechanically predisposed - to whom mechanical issues ne'r become maladies.

He is an ace chap, and happy to share his wisdom.

As his day job is working in a firm that rebuilds gearboxes, the pertinence of that knowledge was about to be demonstrated.

 

The end of the input shaft has a small bushing and seal in it. It looks like this.

And is located here:

Sayeth Dom: (lightly edited for flow)

There are 2 seals on the input. The main, and the one that seals on the clutch pin. There is brass bushing behind that, this wears out and allows the pin to move and seep oil too. They are easy to replace.

O20 and o2k have the same diddy seal. Input seals have 2 sizes
It's worth replacing If its leaking. Or if he has waggle on that clutch push pin. Super easy to do. Trade parts supplies should have some in stock. If you have a local branch. 

 

I call the chap doing the work, and he has a look. It's the last clip in the video above. 

Let's look in a bit more detail:

To Quote Dom:

"That looks moist and floppy"

Where are we now?

 

Well.. 

First task tomorrow is to try and locate the bush and seal for the input shaft.

If that can be found and fitted, then it can go back together!

If not.. who knows?

 

Current situation:

 

Tune in tomorrow for the next thrilling* update..

 

Cheers to Craig for all his graft, and for keeping me updated throughout the day!

[Fumbler]

Top work!

[jaypee]

Excellent work dude! 

[320touring]

Right, day 2.

Craig spent some time gathering up fiddly stuff, then headed back down to the car.

One last thing to come off:

The gasket was humped on this - it broke off in chunks when being cleaned off, and was dry and brittle.

Craig says that when the last two bolts were removed it just fell off - no resistance at all!

The engine's nether regions look pretty decent tbh.

Now it's able to do daily service, I'll give it an oil change.

Then it was time for reconstruction!

at this point it was a clutch cable, gearbox oil and driveshafts away from being done.

Craig made short work of it - including managing to route the clutch cable correctly without having to pull the wipers off (handily* it clips into the scuttle )

He then went out on a test drive and I waited like an expectant father...

Finally!

 

"Test drive complete, all good, 5th gear is great! Clutch is light, biting point good! Leaving in 5!"

 

Now the only thing that stood between me and it - 54miles.

 

About 80 minutes later..

It's fucking unbelievable. Can get 5th, gearstick is no longer flaccid. Bite point is 1/3 up the pedal.

He even diagnosed the running/hesitation issue to a failed gasket under the single point injection unit.. part number to follow so I can sort that.

 

So in Summary:

Craig is a top bloke, and a hell of a worker. Very pleased both with the work and the price. Would heartily recommend!

 

In addition, he said driving it made him want another MK2 golf - and his Missus seems ok with the idea:)

 

I'm off now to save up for tyres and suspension for it.

I must be mental.

It cost £51 to buy this car.

 

 

 

 

[big_al_granvia]

Splendid young sir. Fine automobile

[beko1987]

That's an impressive bit of work, bet the transformation is measurable! 

[Fraz]

I’m sure craig would be happy to do work for other folk aswell. He’s just got himself a trade policy to start mechanical work for people, 

 

he previously spannered aeroplanes and farm machinery in Canada, very knowledgable. 

[loserone]

Is he on here yet, and can he be pressured into buying and fixing cheap tat for fun and profit*?

[Fraz]

30 minutes ago, loserone said:

Is he on here yet, and can he be pressured into buying and fixing cheap tat for fun and profit*?

He’s awaiting his confirmation now to sign up 

[320touring]

When Craig had the car to do the clutch, he mentioned that the hesitancy of the engine was likely due to the gasket between the injection unit and the inlet manifold.

This is it. The diamond formation bolts to the inlet manifold, and the square section is where the injection unit bolts in.

Installation isn't particularly complicated. Just footery.

First, locate your quarry:

Enhance

Errits err annat.

Remove the air inlet pipe so the 'hat' of the injection can be removed.

Then the rocker breather can be removed and the electronic connections can be removed.

Deploy the titchy 1/4" drive Rodentia Excreta on the top 3 bolts.

And remove the 2 vac lines on the back of the hat.

With the hat off, you can see the 4 10mm bolts holding the injector unit on.

These go right through the unit and into the gasket.

Before undoing them, I tilted the unit to see how much of a gap there was..as you can see, it's a fair bit.

The 4 long 10mm bolts were removed, and the injection unit lifted up

Not looking too bad. 

Right up until I touched it.

Aye, that'll be fuckt then.

Fitting the new one was a doddle, and the jitters have gone. It's improved the drivability a fair bit.

 

The exhaust was adjusted, 

and the car was washed and waxed, including the Engine bay..

 

 

 

 

 

[Jim Bell]

Putting to oooooooooooo! into Mechanical Improvements. 

[phil_lihp]

Nice work!  Is this basically a mk2 Golf in a different suit then?

[320touring]

Just now, phil_lihp said:

Nice work!  Is this basically a mk2 Golf in a different suit then?

It's a sharp suited MK2 golf aye.

Thankfully this means parts are easy to come by. 

Panels and lights are a different matter.

[phil_lihp]

Probably a lot cheaper than a late mk2 Golf though!

[320touring]

2 minutes ago, phil_lihp said:

Probably a lot cheaper than a late mk2 Golf though!

They didn't come out til the MK3 golf arrived.

Current comparison, this was £51 in 2016...

 

Can't say re lights/panel prices as have struggled even to find any..

[meshking]

Top fettling!  I love it when small (ish) jobs like gasket replacement improve the feel of a car. Getting it closer to how it drove out of the factory. 

[beko1987]

Very nice! Can't say I've ever waxed an engine bay though... 

[320touring]

Just now, beko1987 said:

Very nice! Can't say I've ever waxed an engine bay though... 

The available de-gungifier was wash and wax car shampoo:)

[beko1987]

Fancy! I always try to wash an engine bay though. Looks smart etc but also stops you getting filthy just having a little nose/squeeze of a hose/topping up fluids blah blah. 

[320touring]

1 minute ago, beko1987 said:

Fancy! I always try to wash an engine bay though. Looks smart etc but also stops you getting filthy just having a little nose/squeeze of a hose/topping up fluids blah blah. 

Much prefer washing diesel engine bays as no electroniks for the h2o to interface with..

[Split_Pin]

I've still got those cans of degreaser we bought when the Corsa engine was out, never used them since. You are welcome to them if you want to give things another pass.

[320touring]

8 hours ago, Split_Pin said:

I've still got those cans of degreaser we bought when the Corsa engine was out, never used them since. You are welcome to them if you want to give things another pass.

Thanks for the offer chief:)