Project Collectioneering - Moogs Mootahs

[mercrocker]

Fucking hate low-life car-stealing vermin like that.   It isn't just a car is it - Moog has put himself into it, as we all do.   Hope it turns up.

[billyboy406v6]

Hope you get it back. Problem is, if they get caught some judge from another planet will give them 40hrs community service, that a mega detterent.....not ?

[Robson3022]

Tossers of the highest order

[twosmoke300]

Ffs!

[HillmanImp]

*dislike* 

[barmatt]

Ffs, what a bunch of wankers. 

 

Time to start trawling ebay for cctv systems.

[Junkman]

I'm not going to sift through the entire thread to check what was stolen.

Can that info please be posted here in a nutshell, so social media can be alerted?

[The Moog]

I'm not going to sift through the entire thread to check what was stolen.

Can that info please be posted here in a nutshell, so social media can be alerted?

White Toyota Starlet. 1.3 with autoshite sticker

 

 

Reg S305 BCD

[twosmoke300]

My old loan car - bastards !

[bub2006]

Complete and utter cunts. Is the focus damaged too? What utter tossers.

[Junkman]

White Toyota Starlet. 1.3 with autoshite sticker

 

 

Reg S305 BCD

What does it look like?

Where and when was it nicked?

[The Moog]

[The Moog]

Complete and utter cunts. Is the focus damaged too? What utter tossers.

No damage to focus. But looks like they can break into it really easily.

 

Speaking to neighbours an old transit was opened plus three other older cars. So we weren't targeted just happened to be end house.

[bub2006]

Shared your Facebook status around. Probably lead to nothing but who knows. Sorry matey. Heartbreaking when it happens. I've had 3 motorbikes nicked over the years.

[Des]

It may pay to hunt around locally, thieving maggots will often hide a car not very far for a few days, being paranoid of trackers.

[Skizzer]

That's shit.  Sorry man.

[Tickman]

It may pay to hunt around locally, thieving maggots will often hide a car not very far for a few days, being paranoid of trackers.

This worked for finding My Uncles Mk 3 Astra when is was pinched from outside his house and taken for a joyride. This was about 25 years ago so it wasn't a classic of any sorts. I had the joy of hot-wiring it and driving it home.

 

The police might know where they usually get dumped.

[Guest Breadvan72]

Hope you get it back. Problem is, if they get caught some judge from another planet will give them 40hrs community service, that a mega detterent.....not ?

 

Yawn, Daily Mail blah.  Quite apart from the fact that sentencing guidelines are not set by Judges, and are ultimately dictated by Government policy, have a look at how ineffective long prison sentences are at deterring crime.  The USA is the best example here - harsh penal system, long sentences, but still a high crime rate.   Even if you want long sentences, that means taxpayers paying for more prisons, as the current ones are usually full or almost full.   There are never any bloke in pub easy solutions to these problems.

 

Anyway, v sorry to hear of the car theft.  This sounds like random scrotage, and the scrotes happened to get lucky when they found the key inside the Focus.  They then stole the Toyota because they could .  I don't suppose that there is a much of a steal to order market for the type.  I hope that it turns up, but fear that it may be wrecked.

[The Moog]

 

 

Anyway, v sorry to hear of the car theft. This sounds like ransom scrotage, and the scrotes happened to get lucky when they found the key inside the Focus. They then stole the Toyota because they could . I don't suppose that there is a much of a steal to order market for the type. I hope that it turns up, but fear that it may be wrecked.

Agree. It had half a tank of fuel so wide imagine once that it gone then it will be dumped somewhere.

[Tamworthbay]

Yawn, Daily Mail blah.  Quite apart from the fact that sentencing guidelines are not set by Judges, and are ultimately dictated by Government policy, have a look at how ineffective long prison sentences are at deterring crime.  The USA is the best example here - harsh penal system, long sentences, but still a high crime rate.   Even if you want long sentences, that means taxpayers paying for more prisons, as the current ones are usually full or almost full.   There are never any bloke in pub easy solutions to these problems.

 

Anyway, v sorry to hear of the car theft.  This sounds like ransom scrotage, and the scrotes happened to get lucky when they found the key inside the Focus.  They then stole the Toyota because they could .  I don't suppose that there is a much of a steal to order market for the type.  I hope that it turns up, but fear that it may be wrecked.

I disagree, I think there is an easy bloke in pub solution to theft. You simply send the bailiffs around to empty their house and sell the items to cover the cost of what was stolen and the Police etcs time. If they don't have enough to sell then they work off the debt in 'work prisons' (not US style ones which are well dodgy). Once the debt is repaid they are released. There is no point locking people up for them to sit in a cell 23hrs a day but perhaps if they saw how much effort was required to earn enough money to buy a car/ tv/ whatever they may be less inclined to steal other people's. At the moment the criminal 'justice' system is not centred around making things as easy as possible for the victim, reparation is better than retribution to most people. Nothing will cure crime completely but I would bet a lot of money my system would work better than the present joke.

[paulscavalier]

Sorry to hear about the starlet. There has been a lot of car theft in my area as well.

[wuvvum]

Cntz.

[Junkman]

I disagree, I think there is an easy bloke in pub solution to theft. You simply send the bailiffs around to empty their house and sell the items to cover the cost of what was stolen and the Police etcs time. If they don't have enough to sell then they work off the debt in 'work prisons' (not US style ones which are well dodgy).

 

In Austria we call this 'trying to grab into the pocket of a naked man'.

Also, forced labour is a violation of article 4 of the European Convention on Human Rights,

which the United Kingdom coded into the Human Rights Act in 1998.

I'm afriad this won't be revoked even after the Brexit.

 

So no, no bloke in pub easy solution after all.

[gadgetgricey]

Just realised that i have a vel satis with no backup car.

Serious offer. If you need a temp back up car I'm currently not using the 75 I purchased the other week.

Not even started work on it yet so has minor issues, but seems reliable enough if you do need other transport.

[Guest Breadvan72]

Mr Scrote often has Jack-all worth seizing, as JM has observed.  Do you recall that Blair was going to frogmarch yobs to cashpoints?  That plan didn't get very far.

 

The ECHR is, by the way, nowt to do with the EU, and is mostly a British invention dating from the period just after WW2, when subjects such as forced labour and so on were somewhat topical.

[Tamworthbay]

In Austria we call this 'trying to grab into the pocket of a naked man'.

Also, forced labour is a violation of article 4 of the European Convention on Human Rights,

which the United Kingdom coded into the Human Rights Act in 1998.

I'm afriad this won't be revoked even after the Brexit.

So no, no bloke in pub easy solution after all.

It's not forced labour, they have a choice - work off the debt or stay there as long as they wish.

 

So it is an easy solution after all.

 

And let's not start linking this to Brexit, I am far from a right winger of any sort as anyone on here who has read my posts will know. But I do get frustrated when I see poor communities riddled with crime due to poor policies of idiot liberals of various colours and scumbag tories.

 

When someone can steal something worth 10k and get a £100 fine it doesn't take a genius to work out that the system is broken. The people that cause these problems are not 'naked men' who are taking a load of bread to feed a starving family, they are scrotes who do not care about the effects of their actions on others. The best place to hit them is in the pocket. And if the victim knows that they will be adequately compensated by the justice system for their loss it won't remove the pain but will make it easier to bear.

[Vince70]

So Sorry to hear you've lost your car to some thieving low life scumbag..

[Tamworthbay]

Mr Scrote often has Jack-all worth seizing, as JM has observed.

Living (in the past) and working (in the present) amongst them I would totally disagree, drive around the worst estates and the poorest houses are almost always the most honest. The ones with a eleventy million inch TVs and every gadget under the sun are the dodgy ones. But it's not PC to say that we should tackle crime in ways that actually work, as someone proud to be on the left of the political spectrum I find that aspect of all the main parties to be the most disgraceful as it sentences the vast majority of the poor who are decent and honest to a life of even more suffering due to the actions of the scumbag minority.

[Guest Breadvan72]

It's not forced labour, they have a choice - work off the debt or stay there as long as they wish.

 

So it is an easy solution after all.

 

 

 

So, in other words, forced labour.  

 

Bloke in pub solutions often seem to assume that no one has ever thought about how to solve societal problems, and may even suggest that people working in systems such as education, criminal justice and so on are not interested in making things better, or are even trying to make things worse.  Lots of serious and well intentioned people of many political persuasions have thought long and hard about these problems for ages, and so far no one has come up with swift and easy solutions.  I suggest also that much contemporary underclass scrotery is a consequence of Thatcherism, not liberalism. 

 

Anyone who think that police, prosecutors, judges, probation officers and the like aren't trying hard to do something about crime should spend some time watching a criminal court trying to function despite the minimal resources that the system is provided with. The public want Rolls Royce criminal justice, but they want it for Lada prices.

 

I don't have a vested interest here, as I am lucky enough not to work in the criminal justice system, although I occasionally have some interaction with it when doing public law stuff.

[Guest Breadvan72]

Suppose Scrote steals a 10K car.  You catch Scrote and want to grab his stuff to pay for the 10K car.  Scrote has a big telly, a phone, a sofa etc.  All worth 10p on the second hand market, and some of it may be on finance.    Take it off Scrote anyway.  He then goes and nicks a telly and a phone and so on. 

 

PS: Scrote fenced the 10K car for, say, 5K.  He has already spaffed the 5K up on booze, drugs, gambling, Ibiza, etc.