Pet hate automotive terms...................

[MrRegieRitmo]

But only a

Actually, I wouldn't mind one of those, or at least a go in a VXR version! Supercar performance for 530i money

[michiel]

Browsing the French ads on leboncoin.fr I notice a lot of "Panhard pl 17 L 6 1962 RELMAX RESTAURER" or "Renault 5... A RESTAURE". It's either "a restaurer" (needs a restoration) or "(a été) restauré" (has been restored), n'est-ce pas? Brrrr. Hain de animal de compagnie en ce cas.

[michiel]

Here's a nice one:

 

aro dacia type renault

7cv essene 139000km

ct ok restaure

1800e

 

Has it been restored, or does it need one?

 

GR-8 pics as well:

 

 

[MrRegieRitmo]

Gawd, it's like Saturday night syndrome!

[FredTransit]

In the transit world, when I get all excited having been told it's a Mk2, to find the thing was a Mk3 registered in 1988! Also all this Mk3/4/5/6/7/8/9 shite, like if it's got a slightly different indicator bulb it's a whole new Mk! People think it's picky, but when you get a 20 year old van, believe me you will WANT to make sure you get the right parts. Even Ford says there was only ever 4 Mks up to 2001 (Mk1, Mk2, Mk3 (the wedge one, never mind what grille it has) and then the ugly one. If there was a new Mk every time something like the shape of a light was changed, I make it Mk9 by now!

[Guest]

Unless it's badged as such it's subjective. I dont particularly like the use of the terms "series 1" and "series 2" when referring to Escort RS turbos, but is that any worse than "mk3 RS turbo" and "mk4 RS turbo" to describe the same things? Maybe, maybe not.

[155V6]

Alpha Romeo

[Mr Lobster]

Most if not all of mine already mentioned but the whole misnaming of stuff really boils my piss - Goof, Scooby etc We get people at work asking about Veckies and they do look stupid. Its a fucking Vectra you mong Also, those ebay auction with NO SWAP NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK etc "Easy project" when its clearly only fir for landfill.

[FredTransit]

Unless it's badged as such it's subjective. I dont particularly like the use of the terms "series 1" and "series 2" when referring to Escort RS turbos, but is that any worse than "mk3 RS turbo" and "mk4 RS turbo" to describe the same things? Maybe, maybe not.

That's the thing though, transits don't have a badge for the Mk, and people make it up, conveniently forgetting they cam in in 1965!

[Pete-M]

Unless it's badged as such it's subjective. I dont particularly like the use of the terms "series 1" and "series 2" when referring to Escort RS turbos, but is that any worse than "mk3 RS turbo" and "mk4 RS turbo" to describe the same things? Maybe, maybe not.

I find that to be ok. The first Escort RS Turbo was the Series 1, the second shape was the Series 2.As nobody knows exactly how many 'marks' the Escort had, especially the FWD shite it's easier than trying to decipher the various varieties of Escort.Car magazine used to insist on calling the Mk3 and Mk4 Escort the Mk3, and the 1991 disaster the Mk4. They then referred to the '95 facelift as the Mk5. Totally out of synch with the people who owned and worked on 'em.I've seen late spec Escorts advertised as Mk8, which I think is taking the piss somewhat. To me, the Escort is as follows.Mk1 - 1968-75Mk2 - 1975-81Mk3 - 1981-85Mk4 - 1985-90Mk5 - 1990-95Mk6 - 1995-death.I think the issue was with the Mk5 being facelifted in '93ish. When the FWD RS2000 went from having the bonnet bulges to having the same bonnet as the rest and losing its rear discs. Same time as the rest of 'em got the 16v lumps and power steerage.

[retrogeezer]

As nobody knows exactly how many 'marks' the Escort had, especially the FWD shite

OI!!!

[Guest]

I find that to be ok. The first Escort RS Turbo was the Series 1, the second shape was the Series 2.

Well yeah, but who decides these things? One-make magazines, owners' clubs, or the (highly unlikely) the manufacturer?

[hennabm]

New here but my hates are the poor spellings on fleabay. What is the country coming to when you look at the state of written English on there. Plus the old favourite of "genuine reason for sale". Tell me an un-genuine one then, as I'm still waiting to hear one.

[shite_meister]

Reading the word Nippy in car ads really pisses me off, its usually written by women advertising their 1.0 VW Polo, My old 4.5i Rover SD1 was 'Nippy' what the fuck do they mean?'Vert is the current parlence for a convertible as used by the BMW E36 chaps.Cheap to run' or 'economical', yeah mate I'm sure your Mercedes S600 is as economical as you are with the truth. How about 'Reason for sale-uses shit loads of fuel'As already mentioned-Genuine reason for sale, hmmmmmmm'New Brakes'-not new discs and pads all round with new pipes and hoses finished off with new brake fluid but in reality just some front pads thrown on the wafer-thin discs to stop the squeeling. Recently serviced-meaning that they had the oil and filter changed about two years ago.how about 'bomb proof reliability' eh colin??

[andrew e]

I'm sure Ford itself classifies the mark 4 as a mark 3 facelift. The spotters fact is the last mark 6's were built to S-type standards as a dry run for the Jaguar build programme. Heres the last mark 6 - ive been in it

 

 

Note the unpainted bonnet and lack of C pillar badges!

[Dukestar25]

The most recent (and annoying) sales tactics of late are:1) On Autotrader, someone selling ,for example, a Audi A4 for £198. You start thinking 'Mmm, I'll take a look...' and in the first line of the description it reads 'Actual price is £1998. 2) On E-bay, some people put up 'No reserve' auctions with a starting bid of £850. Maybe I'm dense, but in my mind that is a reserve in it's own right. A proper no reserve auction surely starts somewhere between 1 - 99p with the highest bidder, regardless of amount reached, winning, does it not??

[wuvvum]

Reading the word Nippy in car ads really pisses me off, its usually written by women advertising their 1.0 VW Polo, My old 4.5i Rover SD1 was 'Nippy' what the fuck do they mean?

I actually don't mind that - "nippy" is quite a good word to use to describe the way some small cars perform. OK, maybe not a 1.0 Polo, but I would describe my Innocenti as "nippy" (although probably not in an advert) - with only 30bhp it could never be described as fast in the conventional sense, but thanks to low gearing, decent torque and the weight of an empty crisp packet it scoots off the line quickly enough and actually feels quite lively at town speeds.

 

One of my pet hates, which builds on something someone else already mentioned, is when sellers put in their ads "no swap/swop wink wink". It's spelt "swap" - why the hell would you include the incorrect spelling as well unless you're specifically trying to attract the greatest possible number of illiterate mongtards to your listing? The other one is with keyword spamming, when someone puts "Proton Persona not Ford Vauxhall Peugeot". As if anyone is going to do a search for "Ford" and trawl through the 130,000 results that would undoubtedly bring up...

[Guest]

Reading the word Nippy in car ads really pisses me off, its usually written by women advertising their 1.0 VW Polo, My old 4.5i Rover SD1 was 'Nippy' what the fuck do they mean?

Having seen your 4.5 Rover on the move once and once only I would describe it as "rapid" rather than "nippy". I would also describe it as "beasty" going on the exhaust note. Wouldnt have minded a hurl in that!

[shite_meister]

Having seen your 4.5 Rover on the move once and once only I would describe it as "rapid" rather than "nippy". I would also describe it as "beasty" going on the exhaust note. Wouldnt have minded a hurl in that!

Really? blimey.No it was incredible, I bought an M3 just before I sold the Rover and the Rover would walk all over it it a straight line.

I actually don't mind that - "nippy" is quite a good word to use to describe the way some small cars perform. OK, maybe not a 1.0 Polo, but I would describe my Innocenti as "nippy" (although probably not in an advert) - with only 30bhp it could never be described as fast in the conventional sense, but thanks to low gearing, decent torque and the weight of an empty crisp packet it scoots off the line quickly enough and actually feels quite lively at town speeds.

I was waiting for someone to say something like that

[MrRegieRitmo]

Alpha Romeo

Actually had that one put on my insurance certificate years ago for my 164 and was not happy.

Especially as it's actually easier to spell it right!

[MrRegieRitmo]

Another big annoyance, presumably by ignorance & this is verbally not literally is when people pronounce Renault as Ren-alt. These same people seem to be able to manage the silent t in Peugeot although some still insist on calling them Peu-joes!

[STUNO]

Having seen your 4.5 Rover on the move once Wouldnt have minded a hurl in that!

Australia.slang.TO HURL = TO VOMIT

[Pillock]

Adverts which go off on a tangent... "I'm only selling my Escort because I've just bought a BMW E36 325i with leather and 18 inch rims".... who gives a chuff? Really? Willy-waving twat.Lies about stuff you're going to notice less than three seconds after you turn up to view the car.... "doesn't burn oil", "no wear to seats", "no rust" and the like. Adverts that read like a review. "This is the 1600cc version, which offers a lot more torque and power without increasing fuel consumption. It rides beautifully over any surface with fully independant suspension...". shut up. I'll have decided what I want to buy before you, the owner of the car and thus someone who benefits directly from the sale, tries to convince me.

[pogweasel]

Cheap to run' or 'economical', yeah mate I'm sure your Mercedes S600 is as economical as you are with the truth. How about 'Reason for sale-uses shit loads of fuel'

OOOh, 'economical' is one that really REALLY boils my piss. Not just on the for sale ads either. It's when you get an 'economy drive' thread on forums and it just decends into frugality cock-waving. There was one on RR that really pee'd me off, totally spurious claims of 50mpg from a dolly sprint or 80+ mpg average from a BX dizzle. Grr. Now I am pretty well versed in the ways of the mingebag motorist, even though I have issues with trying to stick to 56 mph....Best I have ever, ever had from a car was 67 mpg out of our old Focus. Now this was a midnight airport run under pretty much perfect conditions.... no hurry, sensible speed, dry road with no traffic, june night-time so neither hot nor cold, correctly inflated tyres etc, recently serviced vehicle yadda yadda. Bob on. So how anyone can eke 80 mpg out of anything as an average is utterly unbelievable. Certainly anyone getting 50mpg from some old 70's beast on carbs is totally full of horse shit. Old stuff, not frugal. End of. If I got 20mpg out of my Humber Septic it was a day to celebrate. And show a land rover a dual carriageway and shares in shell are essential.We average 53.4 mpg in our current Picasso, which is OK, but only by virtue of very, very careful driving.... and you cannot CANNOT hoss it along at any speed to preserve that. By contrast my BMW will sit at 3-figure speeds and still show 35mpg on the old 'swingometer'. But it's depressing 'round the doors'.

[Guest Tony Hayers]

And to add to the (ebay) spelling mistakes - Temper - TempraZantia - XantiaYogo - YugoSeirra - SierraLook out of the kitchen window, its printed on the arse end of it for christs sake

[Pete-M]

Having seen your 4.5 Rover on the move once and once only I would describe it as "rapid" rather than "nippy". I would also describe it as "beasty" going on the exhaust note. Wouldnt have minded a hurl in that!

Really? blimey.No it was incredible, I bought an M3 just before I sold the Rover and the Rover would walk all over it it a straight line.

My Turbo Rangie can go some when it's in the mood. Blueprinted 3.5, Zytec turbo management, Omega forged pistons, totally oversized marine turbo with hyuuuge intercooler and a load of other goodies. Was built by Janspeed as a one-off "High power" job.Unfortunately, the ZF auto box has a 300 lb ft limit which is very easily exceeded if the boost is set above about 6 psi. Having the boost low means lag tends to be a major issue with it. When I first set it up to run properly I didn't know about the box being made of cheese and it was running a happy 12 to 15 psi of boost. A chap in a Clio 182 was very very surprised when I could out-drag the Clio easily from 70-110 mph. As was I, but it was very amusing. The gearbox made some unholy noises and lost 1st and 2nd gear about 10 miles later. Had to limp it back from North Wales without stopping or dropping much below 40 mph. Below 40 the 'box just screamed murder.

[seth]

Certainly anyone getting 50mpg from some old 70's beast on carbs is totally full of horse shit.

We got 48mpg out of the Herald Estate on one London-Manchester run I know what you meant though. That was a one off and certainly not a day to day over a period of a month average.Another term I find annoying is "electric" with reference to windows, seats, and especially mirrors.

[wuvvum]

Certainly anyone getting 50mpg from some old 70's beast on carbs is totally full of horse shit.

We got 48mpg out of the Herald Estate on one London-Manchester run I know what you meant though. That was a one off and certainly not a day to day over a period of a month average.

I used to get about 45mpg average out of the HA Viva. The A40 used to hover around the 40 mark as well. Although both of those were rather less potent machines than a Dolly Sprint - I would think you'd be doing well to average 30 to the gallon with one of those, if my experiences with an 1850 were anything to go by.

[Rocket88]

.how about 'bomb proof reliability' eh colin?? guilty as charged..............................

[AnthonyG]

But only a

Give me one of them compared to a failed 40 year old German engineering experiment anyday.

 

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