MOT not for me.

[Richard]

Running a few numbers through that MOT history site provides fairly compelling evidence that the MOT is necessary. All cars should be capable of passing a test all the time, but that just isn't the case.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

No connection with the MOT test.

[Taff]

Here's a thought. While I certainly like the MOT, the vast majority of accidents are still caused by twats at the wheel than mechanical failure. Maybe it's the drivers we should be testing every year...

 

human factors integration. in shooting circles, it's referred to as the nut behind the butt 

[NorfolkNWeigh]

Immediate removal of children. Parents unfit, car unfit, no advisories.

Unfortunately (IMO) being a junkie is not a reason to have kids taken away.

Stupid, I know ,but Social Services are encouraged not to remove kids unless they're in immediate danger - like for instance been killed in a fiery crash in a un- MOT'd ,uninsured Vectra driven by an unlicensed scag head ? No, that doesn't count apparently . A bit like when smackhead mom gets a new convicted child rapist boyfriend, she has to promise not to leave them in his sole care at anytime- that's ok then.

[cros]

Here's a thought. While I certainly like the MOT, the vast majority of accidents are still caused by twats at the wheel than mechanical failure. Maybe it's the drivers we should be testing every year...

You can't do that. Such a scheme would require government effort and might not be popular. Just hammer the soft targets and achieve small results rather than deal effectively with the minority of selfish cunts who just dont give a fuck.

[sloth]

count yourselves lucky, here in vic, having a cone filter is a fail. as is a modified exhaust. and any non standard parts must be adr stamped or you fail. its mad. 

[beko1987]

Running a few numbers through that MOT history site provides fairly compelling evidence that the MOT is necessary. All cars should be capable of passing a test all the time, but that just isn't the case.

This. How do people not notice that the brakes are a bit grindy, or that they have a headlight out, or that their tyres are fucked? I cant quite work out how they arent motivated to get it fixed before the mot at least.

 

The one headlight but both fogs and high beam on cuntwankerfuckheads are already out in force, should be many more mot fails coming up!

 

Can you tell its getting dark for my commute yet?

[cort16]

I recon even if I had an mot exempt motor I'd still put it in for a test now and again given the horrible shit they've found on cars I had I thought perfectly serviceable .

[Rusty_Rocket]

This is quite timely actually; it suddenly occurred to me last night how many cars are running around with bulbs out.  My journey from work is nearly all pitch-black lanes so actually having working head lamps is very useful.  Still, it seems that's lost with a lot of people that passed me.

One had no working lights at all on the offside front so it's clear that zero maintenance goes on there.

 

I wonder if these people wait until their MoTs 'till the bulbs get replaced?

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Lets face it we all evaluate a number of factors before changing a bulb,'is it difficult', 'is it an important one' etc. One of the sealed beams on my Landcrab had the main beam filament die in about April, luckily the evenings were getting quite long so I was able to safely put off the job for a few months till not having full headlight capacity started to inconvenience me personally.

[dollywobbler]

Shameful. I changed headlamp bulbs on the XM to make sure they don't daily while I'm driving. That's the standard I consider correct.

 

Oh, and maybe because I was upgrading the bulbs..

[dollywobbler]

Don't daily? WTF? Useless sodding phone. Fail is what I was trying to say. And subsequently did.

[beko1987]

Id understand if the bulb was out on a renault megane or something tricky, but this is sub 8 year old generic shit I see it on!

 

Oh look a bike... No wait, its a car, twat. I test mine every morning and night by looking at the reflection out of over the roads front room window...

[HH-R]

Loads of cars must fail on headlight alignment, once the nights start cutting in I see about ten a day with one light pointing towards the moon.

[scaryoldcortina]

^ It's about 1 in 5 for headlight aim, or poor pattern because the bulb is in upside down or loose. They don't tend to get recorded as a fail if it's easily rectified on the spot though.

[dugong]

^ It's about 1 in 5 for headlight aim, or poor pattern because the bulb is in upside down or loose. They don't tend to get recorded as a fail if it's easily rectified on the spot though.

Whereas my MGF's going to fail the MoT because its headlights are shit, full stop. 

[scaryoldcortina]

yeah, do you want me to ask about the ones in the scrapyard? They are still there...

[Pillock]

I've never failed an MOT.

Leave a cup of heroin in the centre console, gets replaced with a pass sheet.

[Uncle Jimmy]

Watching a heroin addict driving to pick up his supplies in a blue Vectra (wife and kids on board), I'm wondering what sort of fucked up society we live in where this is even feasable when a airbag warning light on at the MOT will put a more responsible citizen off the road.

But what shade of blue was it?

[michael1703]

It would be interesting to get reg numbers for all the cars that are 3 years old having their first mot and see what they fail on.

 

I've had a few 50k cars in for first mot with illegal brakes/tyres/TREs etc.

 

There was also a 40k mile micra that had an inch of slop in the NSF wheel bearing

[PiperCub]

human factors integration. in shooting circles, it's referred to as the nut behind the butt 

 

In aviation - it's the dick behind the stick.

[strangeangel]

How do people not notice that the brakes are a bit grindy, ... or that their tyres are fucked?

 

 

I have yet to hear a satisfactory answer to these two questions from Our Lass.

[garethj]

Here's a thought. While I certainly like the MOT, the vast majority of accidents are still caused by twats at the wheel than mechanical failure. Maybe it's the drivers we should be testing every year...

A bit like passing the driving test, I reckon most people could keep it together for half an hour once a year, feeding the wheel, mirror-signal-manoeuvre etc.

 

Maybe the technology will help - there are smartwatches out now that can measure your heart rate and most cars have as many sensors as an aircraft black box.  All you need to do is join the technology together:  90mph on the motorway, heavy on the brakes, high blood pressure?  A quick network search to the DVLA to verify the driver is the registered keeper of a white TDi and the technology switches the radio to Shopping Mall FM, winds down the engine's power delivery to that of a Fiesta 950 and dispenses a soothing message to his bluetooth headset.  Something like "you are valued, you are loved, don't worry about upgrading to the new S Line after next year's appraisal, it doesn't matter.

[Lacquer Peel]

Maybe the technology will help - there are smartwatches out now that can measure your heart rate and most cars have as many sensors as an aircraft black box.  All you need to do is join the technology together:  90mph on the motorway, heavy on the brakes, high blood pressure?  A quick network search to the DVLA to verify the driver is the registered keeper of a white Xantia TD estate.

 

EFA.

 

[michael1703]

It should be made law that every car manufacturer makes a car that anybody can change a bulb.

 

If a cop car sees a car with one headlight, the owner should be told, their reg entered in to the ANPR with a tag for the bulb and if they haven't fixed it they should get a fine

[PhilA]

UK MoT is A Good Thing because people, in general, will try it on if they can.

 

Beats the test here, which my car just passed. From observation, the test sheet has on it:

 

IMPORTANT ITEMS

() headlights work

() indicators work

() horn works

() brake lights work

() engine present and not installed incorrectly (ie upside down)

 

MISCELLANEOUS

() oh no it's got gears

() where's the handbrake again?

() car drives and stops in mostly a straight line at about 5mph

 

I got an advisory on the meandering crack in the windshield.

 

Yeah, the UK MoT test was introduced for a reason and is still a good idea.

For most of the reasons stated before this post.

 

Phil

[Taff]

Whereas my MGF's going to fail the MoT because its headlights are shit, full stop. 

 

are the standard? I don't think mine are that bad, but tbh I have nothing to compare them to. And I haven't been to look closely at them so a previous owner may have upgraded or something. Given the overall condition, I doubt that somehow.

[CHRIS1980]

are the standard? I don't think mine are that bad, but tbh I have nothing to compare them to. And I haven't been to look closely at them so a previous owner may have upgraded or something. Given the overall condition, I doubt that somehow.

My Fronteras lights were atrocious so I upgraded to the halfords 90w rally bulbs. Now it's daylight. They were pricy,but then so is hitting something in the dark.

[Taff]

My Fronteras lights were atrocious so I upgraded to the halfords 90w rally bulbs. Now it's daylight. They were pricy,but then so is hitting something in the dark.

Agree with that. I was going to mention this in the modification thread actually. A few years ago, I had a Mk2 Zeph with a rover v8 in it. A good conversion, done properly and tidily, and with the front brakes upgraded as well. Speed & safety, not my usual bodge.

Anyway, the electrics were all checked and worked fine, including the lights. Which were stock Zeph and pre-dated halogen even. I was always mildly concerned that, at night, the stopping distance probably exceeded what I could actually see.

 

 

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