There is no Granada in Granadaland! Caution: Contains Granada Beast!

[DSdriver]

I'd rather have no news, than these news.

 

 

Courtesy of a friend in that Germany.

 

If this is full of shit in my car (which I assume it is), I'm fucked.

Stupid question, but isn't that round bit to which the sworl pot is attached removable so you can get it out of the tank? After all, they must have got it in there somehow.

[ShiteRider]

More importantly have you won the green 405 from the tat thread?

The best way to fix broken chod is to buy more chod.

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

Stupid question, but isn't that round bit to which the sworl pot is attached removable so you can get it out of the tank? After all, they must have got it in there somehow.

 

I assume it was installed before the two halves of the tank were joined. The pot is larger than either of the openings on the tank. 

[jakebullet]

Fill tank with asda kola?

 

Or put tank with outlet uppermost, pour redex into outlet pipe and hope it eats away at crap in gauze in swirl pot.

Or think who needs the filter gauze anyway, connect outlet to airline and blast it to bits.

[Junkman]

More importantly have you won the green 405 from the tat thread?

The best way to fix broken chod is to buy more chod.

 

I did indeed.

[Junkman]

Fill tank with asda kola?

 

Or put tank with outlet uppermost, pour redex into outlet pipe and hope it eats away at crap in gauze in swirl pot.

Or think who needs the filter gauze anyway, connect outlet to airline and blast it to bits.

 

That's pretty much along the lines of what I'm going to do once the tank is out of the car again.

Oh, and replace redex with nitric acid.

[vulgalour]

Hammers?  Hammers fix most things.

[Junkman]

Hammer deployage had already been exercised.

[garbaldy]

I bought a 25 litre drum of thinners and poured it into the Audi tank where it sat for two weeks with regular sloshings, tank now looks new inside.

The Audi has been of the road for 18 years so half the tank was full of tar like substance same as yours

[Taff]

open up the fuel tank and clean it out with a spinny wire brush etc then weld it back together! Obv fumigate it throughly first.

 

actually did this with the Galaxie, as there was no hope of getting a new tank at a reasonable price.

 

Ran the grinder around it, one inch above the mounting/joining flange

cleaned inside with a knot wheel

unclogged outlet pipe

hammered out the dents it had acquired since 1960

 

then I welded a few 1inch wide by 6inch strips of mild steel into the lower half, to act as a flange. Then spent a fair few hours carefully seam welding the two halves back together.  One tin of tank sealant added, to be on the safe side.

 

It's not difficult, but it is time consuming

[DSdriver]

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

The last time we did anything on this car, morale was low. The cleaned out fuel tank was discovered to contain a jar of Lyle's Golden Syrup instead of a swirl pot, the fuel distributor didn't distribute fuel and we'd noticed a nasty MOT-failure of a crack in the windscreen.

 

 

A bit of enthusiasm was restored when a windscreen sized piece of bronze tinted glass turned up in Birmingham. With that safely installed in the back seat, it was time to get the car running. Junkman swapped the fuel distributor for one which proved itself functional by fountaining petrol out of ten orifices at once. But still no life from the engine. We swapped the cold start valve for a spare, and suddenly there was life - but only momentarily. The engine would run for a few seconds and then die. If the throttle was touched it would die instantly. 

 

In the spirit of Blue Peter, a Fairy Liquid bottle was filled with petrol so Junkman could spray some fuel directly into the air intake. The engine bay was soon ablaze. I'm not sure what happened in the next few seconds because my view was obscured by the bonnet and the sweeping waves of flame. But I can say that Junkman is quite good at extinguishing fires and I my fight or flight instinct is well tuned to the latter. 

 

 

We decided that the fuel injectors were probably gummed up, and set about removing the inlet manifold. 

Most of the injectors came out without a fight, but the last two had to be removed with a crowbar. The manifold itself turned out to be an awkward bugger - the distributor had to be removed to provide a half centimetre of clearance. Not amusing. 

 

But with that done, all that was left was to assemble one good fuel system from our two old ones...

 

 

Unfortunately we ran out of day. But look what we have that we didn't have two days ago. We have fuel arriving at the injector pipes, and we've heard the engine run! I'll leave you with the scene of Junkmanish chaos found in the boot of this poor car. We've done a marvellous job improving the car's weight distribution. 

 

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

[320touring]

Very much lieks!

 

just needs an om606 conversion to set it off a treat:)

[danthecapriman]

Great to see some progress on this. There can't be a lot more that the running problem can be now other than blocked injectors can there?

I still say you'd be better sticking a carb on it!

[Pillock]

Have a gold star and a pat on the head. Each!

Hopefully the mojo gauge is somewhere above red now and things are looking up. I notice the shot is of correct colour Ford Black, and not three litres of dulux which is a promising direction to take.

[alf892]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I thought this was an engine bay shot!

 

Symptom sounds like low fuel pressure...........

[Junkman]

If someone mentions the term "carburetter" in this thread one more time...

[danthecapriman]

Erm, carbure....

 

 

 

Did you ever manage to get the fuel tank cleaned out?

[Steviemillar]

Its worth checking that the fuel return to the tank from the metering head is clear - I had a Capri 2.8 that had stood for quite a few years that did almost exactly the same "run momentarily" trick as your Granada and the return pipe within the tank was blocked solid.

Worth a try even by removing the return hose from the tank and letting it run into a suitable receptacle to see if the engine runs longer.

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

Did you ever manage to get the fuel tank cleaned out?

 

No. The tank is cleaned out, but the swirl pot is still blocked. 

 

Its worth checking that the fuel return to the tank from the metering head is clear - I had a Capri 2.8 that had stood for quite a few years that did almost exactly the same "run momentarily" trick as your Granada and the return pipe within the tank was blocked solid.

Worth a try even by removing the return hose from the tank and letting it run into a suitable receptacle to see if the engine runs longer.

 

 

The return has been confirmed as clear. We have it running into a bucket!

[Junkman]

And my God does it run! The fuel that is. Not the engine, dah.

We are currently feeding it from a 5 litre jerrycan directly into the pump at the back, and catch the return in a bucket.

Within a few minutes, the jerrycan is empty and the bucket full.

 

Tomorrow I'll set the tappet clearances, since the covers are off anyway. Camshaft looks good as far as I can see.

Then it's basically a matter of everything back together whackage, testing the injectors (we have twelve to chose from),

and setting the whole shebang on fire again...

Sadly none of the injector seals are any good and the only replacements I found have to be ordered from Germany.

However, it's not that difficult to take them out again and swap the seals, once the new ones have arrived.

 

I eggspekt propah FOAD V6 barkage in me back garden soon.

What little we heard today, already awoke fond memories from the pit area at Arena Essex, back when the times were still good,

the cars slow and the women fast.

[danthecapriman]

What else is it likely to need to get an mot? Does it need much sparkle stick attention? Or is it going to be on the road very soon.

When I swapped the cracked windscreen on my estate most of the bodywork around it came out with the old glass! Hopefully yours isn't quite so rusty.

[andrew e]

CHICK WOODROFFE LAUGHS AT YOUR FOOL INJECTION

[Junkman]

What else is it likely to need to get an mot? Does it need much sparkle stick attention? Or is it going to be on the road very soon.

When I swapped the cracked windscreen on my estate most of the bodywork around it came out with the old glass! Hopefully yours isn't quite so rusty.

 

It does need a set of tyres and the windscreen replaced.

That's basically it. I already had the entire exhaust front to back replaced, since there was very little left from what was possibly the factory installed one.

The car is rock solid throughout and all the commonly known rot spots are perfectly fine. It was very carefully inspected when it was on a ramp while the new eggsorst was installed.

We were amazed to find the entire undercarriage in what is best described as museum condition, with the only exception being a palm sized hole down in the spare wheel well,

so no big deal at all. The car is a lot better than it looks, honestly. A lot.

[djimbob]

That looks like an ace example, I bought a 2.3 gl or some such in beige/gold many years ago down the auctions for £125, plus auction fees of fuck all, obviously owned by an old giffer from wakefield, and it did sterling service for the remainder of the ten months test, and I shamefully cannot for the life of me remember what I did with it

 

It was a lovely comfy old barge, auto for the win, and set me off on big Ford love affair of the smiley face version, which are now fetching good money it seems, how time flies

[Junkman]

I mustard mitt that I never gave them a second glance until 1991. And even then it wasn't love at first sight. When I started my material testing equipment biz, I needed a proper car to chriss cross Yeerop up, down and through the middle. I only had a shonky 3.0 Si, a hippie spec R4F6 and a '60 Dodge Dart Phoenix at the time, so I needed something proper. But them bloody Ossies had raided the used car forecourts and snatched every last piece of shite at Sotheby's prices. The remainder had been nicked by the Polish, it was a desaster.

So for a while, I did what everone else did - ignore a forlorn Champagne Gold metallic (that's JRG for you guys) 2.3 Ghia (which AFAIK never was available in the UK) sitting in the corner of an otherwise empty Ford A1 Approved Preloved Cars lot every time I passed that place. Well, one day I stopped, more because I felt sorry for it, than anything else. I mean, it was sitting there like an abandoned Golden Retriever that didn't know what it had done wrong, after years of faithfully serving its previous masters and even having fun with them on holidays. Well, you guessed it, I took it home with me.

 

Three years and 150,000 miles later, my late friend Roland talked me out of it and integrated it into what was the most bonkers car collection I knew hitherto. He kept it until his sadly untimely death two years ago. Meanwhile his widow has sold it and it lives on with a Granada collector I also happen to know.

 

Despite I then used a '78 Caprice Classic for my travelling chores, I always had one or more Granadas on the side and on standby. Always 2.8i Ghias, with the exception of a 2.3 GL 5-speed and a 2.8i GLS 5-speed (a special order car, this configuration wasn't officially available in .de). Especially after my life collapsed in 1998, those meanwhile down to 50 quid Granadas kept me mobile. Particularly the 2.8s were dirt cheap, because OMGMPG and the stiff tax they attracted in Germany. The trick: Register, wait for tax invoice, wait another six weeks for reminder, wait another six weeks for impounding threat, de-register (meanwhile you were driving for about three months), wait for the final bill for the period you had used the car, pay that amount, re-register the car, start the game anew (back then, you could only pay the tax annually and I just never had that much cash in the bank), watch your credit rating plummet.

So when I moved to that Ireland end of 1998 to rebuild myself after almost a year of dodging bailiffs, I did so with a 2.8i Ghia, which was still considered quite posh there at the time.

That car went back to Germany with me two years later and was then sold on to a collector in Austria, who still owns it and it still had my bottle of screenwash in the cavity in the scuttle when I last saw it when paying him a visit while holidaying in the area in Summer 2012.

 

After moving to England in January 2005, I first bought a '76 Cadillac Coupe Devil as my daily. However, I soon realised that this isn't the fun in this country than it is where tax money is actually invested in infrastructure. So it made way for an X-reg 2.8 Ghia estate, which grenaded its gearbox in spectacular fashion near Karlsruhe during a trip to a family reunion in Salzburg.

Luckily the recovery lorry driver was a Granada fan, had a collection of them, bought the car off me on the spot and didn't charge me for the recovery.

Upon returning to England, I bought a 2.8i Ghia X in Nimbus Grey, which was a former Met Plod chief constable's duty cruiser. I verifed this by calling him on the phone (he was meanwhile the chief of police in Edinborough) and he well remembered the car, was amazed that it still existed and explained to me all those screw holes on the underside of the dash.

Now, while I had that car, I had ANOTHER 2.8i Ghia X in Nimbus Grey! Both of these went to collectors, one on the Wirral (hence I bet the paperwork evaporated), the other to - you guessed it - Dagenham. From the Dagenham guy, I PXed a 2.3 Lx estate, which I complemented with a beige(!) 2.8 Ghia saloon with green velours interior. I can't really remember what happened to the Lx estate, but the saloon went to a company in Hampshire that does racing and rally MKII Escorts, for them to use it as a tow car. This was around 2008 and by then I have had 14 MKII Granadas. Time to call it quits and move on I thought, then along came Dollywobbler and now Number 15 is playing up and going on fire in my back garden.

 

And you know what?

 

Despite it does give me a healthy dose of grief, it isn't nearly as hateful as that godforsaken Mercedes piece of shit.

[mat_the_cat]

 

The last time we did anything on this car, morale was low. The cleaned out fuel tank was discovered to contain a jar of Lyle's Golden Syrup instead of a swirl pot, the fuel distributor didn't distribute fuel and we'd noticed a nasty MOT-failure of a crack in the windscreen.

 

GT-windscreen.jpg

 

It's a rubbish zoomed in photo, but that C pillar light looks familiar...

 

 

More Ford parts bin raiding by Hyundai?

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

I have had 14 MKII Granadas

 

 

I am not making an animated GIF of this.

[Junkman]

Why not?