Honda Prelude 4WS

[UmBongo]

What's the script with the old four wheel steering?

 

I know the tech, but in layman's terms what are they like to drive on a daily basis?

 

Discuss...if you can be arsed.

[HillmanImp]

[twosmoke300]

Preludes are a lovely motor but 4ws doesn't have much to do with it . Very difficult to set up the electronic system if it goes wrong . Also be careful when pulling away when tight to a wall

[Honey Badger]

S2000 apparently had passive rear wheel steering, if you were giving it the beans into the corner it would turn in, squat a bit then turn in more positively, difficult to describe unless you have driven one, it certainly seemed to hang on impressively for a rear wheel drive go cart.

 

 

Day to day driving I didn't notice it at all.

[UmBongo]

I know the turning circle is tighter which is handy.

[HMC]

If you can stand the latin I bet theres an LJKS article about in Car somewhere as he was a fan of these Preludes.

[twosmoke300]

Citroen zx had passive rws didn't it

[dollywobbler]

Citroen zx had passive rws didn't it

 

Certainly did. I think quite a few cars had it. Probably find most cars have it and it's all just marketing talk. I was always fascinated by four-wheel steer cars though. Remember the 4WD/4WS Galants?

[wuvvum]

Fiat 130 had it, apparently.

[dieselassist]

early 90s gallant - not sure of the model, or if all models had it?? I vaguely remember a mitsublishi full two page ad, on page 2 and three of some glossy car mag back in the day from when they were a new model;

 

Edited, as I missed dollywobblers Galant refrence;

 

 

http://www.dsm.org/cars/galant.htm

[twosmoke300]

Do 106 , 205 , 306 ,206's etc with fucked rear beams count ?

[Asimo]

 Front steering rack

 

 Rear steering rack and inter- rack shaft

 

http://www.lingshondaparts.com

[Jim Bell]

 

Four when steerer for sale with The Dr. Recently.

 

Gravel drive and small donkey for extra.

[pompei]

From what I recall (which is probably now totally flawed) the RWS worked on a graduated basis so, for example, if you were backing into a parking space, the wheels turned quite noticeably in the opposite direction. (assuming you weren't doing a Russ Swift)  If you were pressing on, I think there was only a little movement.  I'm told it was pretty spectacular but, no doubt horrendous if it went wrong.

[Pillock]

I thought at low speed the system turned opposite way to front wheels, if it thought you were changing lanes on a motorway it turned the same way to "crab" slightly.

 

Passive is just a bit of wiggle in the bushes

[twosmoke300]

The early preludes and accord 4ws were mechanical but later preludes were an electronic system which was much more of a pita to set up correctly

[MikeKnight]

I'm looking at another 3rd Generation Prelude at this moment and am sorely tempted by it.

 

Also it's beige. 

[Uncle Jimmy]

Fiat 130 had it, apparently.

Don't think so. As far as I know the first production cars to feature passive rear wheel steering were Hondas c1990?

I've driven cars with the mechanical system which only allows movement of 3-4 degrees. Personally I've noticed nothing that that could be obviously attributed to the rear wheel steering. Yes, the Prelude has an electronic system which, with all the other electronic gizmos they have seems to put people off and keep values low.

I was eyeing Preludes myself a while ago bottled out and bought my Levin instead as it's suspension is purely mechanical and it's N/A.

[Asimo]

So called passive rear wheel steering is just a degree of sogginess built in so that the larger the cornering force, the more the rear wheels steer against the corner. The idea is to reduce the tendency to oversteer. Porsche made a big fuss about it with the 928.

[Bren]

1990 galant had it.

 

So do SD1's when the rear trailing arms pull out of the inner sills.

[dollywobbler]

Rear wheel steering is where it's (ley)at. 

[Essex V6]

Many moons ago I had a 1992 2.3 with 4WS. From memory, the latter took a bit of getting used to but once that happened, I found it great for the twisties and parking.

 

Great car, so well engineered and happily have another. Sadly, they are invariably Mills-omatic over here!