I'm really sorry, question about MODERN VAG OMG

[AnthonyG]

I would really try to persuade her that she doesn't need a diesel.

 

She's doing maybe 8k a year, so the economy isn't needed, and they are now more unreliable and expensive to fix than petrol engines. Possibly the only other advantage is lower tax but the higher prices and mileages of those available far outweigh that.

 

As an incentive tell her a pez Audi A3 is available for the price of a diesel Golf. I have no idea if this is true, but it seems likely and will appeal to the snobbery to someone who thinks a 7 year old VW has more 'status' than a 7 year Ford. No offence like!!

[Pete-M]

There is no reason that justifies buying a Golf SDI.

 

I wouldn't even recommend one to Ed Miliband.

[Lacquer Peel]

My Fabia SDI was alright, I'm a bit of a masochist though.

[Uncle Jimmy]

Earlier TDIs are generally OK in that you can get to the EGR valve easy enough and clean/replace it; so if you must have a VAG get one, though I'd much sooner have a Skoda- the thinking man's VAG.

[New POD]

Has she considered a 2.2 i-cdt-i Civic?  140 Bhp but chippable to 190 bhp for £250 (ish).  Revs to 5000 and "possibly the best" diesel engine, as it was designed (alegdegllly) by their F1 engine design team. All the early reliability issues sorted in the Accord before the civic was launched.

[Noel Tidybeard]

Has she considered a 2.2 i-cdt-i Civic?  140 Bhp but chippable to 190 bhp for £250 (ish).  Revs to 5000 and "possibly the best" diesel engine, as it was designed (alegdegllly) by their F1 engine design team. All the early reliability issues sorted in the Accord before the civic was launched.

there is a standing joke on the civic forum about the diesel being quicker than the type-r

[Pete-M]

Those Honda diesel engines are bloody good. Almost feel like a petrol. Almost.

[Rusty_Rocket]

Powerful they may be, but their considerable thirst for oil would annoy me after a while.

[meshking]

What sort of economy would you expect from a diesel civic?

[trigger]

I was looking at Civics before I bought my Focus, I really liked them and they drove great but I was warned of them by a chap at work who had one which he bought new and had gone through numerous gearboxes and injectors in 70000 miles.

 

Saying that I bet it was still better than a Focus diesel.

[twosmoke300]

Dual mass flywheels and injectors are a bit weak on the civic diesels but they aint made by Honda . Injectors by Bosch (some of the most unreliable crap out there is made by them I reckon) and flywheel by LUK

[They_all_do_that_sir]

Time for an update.

 

The C3 sailed through its MOT, all I had to do prior was a new sidelight bulb, lower ball joint and a bit of paint on the rear brake lines.

 

Due to regained confidence in the car coupled with a clean inside and out to almost vulgalour standards she has once again become smitten with the little citroen.

 

Probably helps I got rid of the ditch finders from the front and had the wheels aligned.

 

"It's like a new car" she says "maybe keep it clean then this time" I say

 

SOOOO

 

CITROEN 1, VAG 0

[Cavcraft]

There is no better result.

[New POD]

Powerful they may be, but their considerable thirst for oil would annoy me after a while.

 

 

My 04 accord doesn't use much, and it is abused in all gears.

[twosmoke300]

Its weird , some used loads but others didnt. I think if you drove them hard from day one they bedded the rings in better and they used less. Diesels like to be brought up right

[New POD]

I was looking at Civics before I bought my Focus, I really liked them and they drove great but I was warned of them by a chap at work who had one which he bought new and had gone through numerous gearboxes and injectors in 70000 miles.

 

Saying that I bet it was still better than a Focus diesel.

 

 

I'm at 125K.  Only problems THUS far, have been a cracked exhaust manifold and a dead alternator (Neither cheap)

 

I'm hitting 55 mpg on a run, 550-600 miles to a tank. I'm getting a bit bored of the standard performance after 3 years, but the savings over my "benchmark" have "paid" for the car and the repairs now. So basically it's "free" motoring from now on.  

 

 

*Note bench mark was to spend £1000 on the Best Mk3 XE or SEH Cavalier I could find, achieve 30 MPG verses spending £4500 on the Accord. - In heidsight, if I'd found autoshite earlier ....................................