Golf clutches, as easy as they used to be?

[Des]

This bit of turd.

 

 

Has been purchased by my mother to replace a very similar one that she's spent 15 years ratlooking. It's the next model on although only two years younger, I took it for a spin today and Volkswanker hater that I am, I have to admit it isn't that bad a thing to drive, or at least way better than the old one, I noticed the wheels seem bigger, only gone up an inch in rim size and someone has cleverly fitted 80 profile tyres, could it be that simple a fix to make German rubbish fit for purpose?

Anyway the clutch bites an inch from rest so I assume the flywheel is kissing the friction plate rivets, has anyone pulled a gearbox from one of these jellymould contraptions and is it feasible to carry out the task retaining a mild and jovial disposition? Last Golf I did would be getting on for 20 years ago, piece of piss other than the deranged inside out and back to front clutch assembly worked by a pushrod through the input shaft. Germans eh? They finally work out the right end of a car to put the engine but just can't help themslves from dicking about with something.

[skattrd]

I'm not sure if it's all mk4 Golf's but it may have dmf in which case the flywheel will need changing as well as the clutch. I did the solid flywheel conversion on mine instead, g60 flywheel & vr6 clutch with a few bolts from VW.

[Squire_Dawson]

I think that at one stage or another, there will be a torrent of bad language. Probably starting when you open the bonnet.

[Partridge]

What's she doing with the old one Des?

I like the MK3s because they're rubbish, too new to be scene and too old to be wankerish.

[EssDeeWon]

Thats a MK4 Golf.

 

*edit You were referring to the previously owned Golf, not this one.

[Station]

If car_year => 1998 then job = horrible.

 

"Let's take the inspection plate out of gearbox," said Mr Vauxhall/GM, "so that a once easy job that took 1 hour, is now a gearbox out job which takes 8 hours."

"And let's put the slave cylinder -INSIDE- the gearbox," he continued to say, "so that you have to -take the gearbox off- to replace it. This increased a one hour job, into an eight hour job. We did this so that labour times would be increased massively."

When questioned, he said "That's the only reason we did it, because there's never going to be a point where we aren't making enough money."

[Partridge]

Thats a MK4 Golf.

 

*edit You were referring to the previously owned Golf, not this one.

That's the one I meant, you can see it poking it's arse out of the background.

[Partridge]

If car_year => 1998 then job = horrible.

 

"Let's take the inspection plate out of gearbox," said Mr Vauxhall/GM, "so that a once easy job that took 1 hour, is now a gearbox out job which takes 8 hours."

"And let's put the slave cylinder -INSIDE- the gearbox," he continued to say, "so that you have to -take the gearbox off- to replace it. This increased a one hour job, into an eight hour job. We did this so that labour times would be increased massively."

When questioned, he said "That's the only reason we did it, because there's never going to be a point where we aren't making enough money."

The Rover 75 diesel had a similar problem. Most people just fuck them off when the delicate slave cylinder goes because replacing it is such a faff.

[sierraman]

You might get away without replacing DMF. It's the diesel that usually hammers the dmf to bits.

[skattrd]

The dmf on mine was still within tolerance when we changed the clutch so initially it remained. There were issues getting it running properly with the old dmf and new clutch plate. Everyone I spoke to said that the dmf needs changing with the clutch even if it's within tolerance. So I sacked it off and went solid flywheel.

[Junkman]

I took it for a spin today and Volkswanker hater that I am, I have to admit it isn't that bad a thing to drive...

 

I once had one as a hire car and found it actually quite nice to drive.

I decided there and then, that I hate it for that, too.

[Station]

WTClaim had one in 1.9TD and it was a nice car, I wouldn't hesitate having one if it was cheap, I'd rather have an A3TDi though.

[Des]

Stop the fucking bus there a minute, I didn't want to hear of any DMF shit, think I should paint her old one and hit the weighbridge.

Her old Golf might be going to my brother if his missus can decide if it's preferable to the Suzuki Swift they've had for a couple of weeks. All modern etc. They've all been shoddy white goods since the demise of the separate chassis.

[Matt]

That's the one I meant, you can see it poking it's arse out of the background.

 

 

Do it.

[r.welfare]

I have nothing to add other than I believe these base model Mk4s have 80 series tyres as factory spec, probably one of the last cars to do so.

[Barry Cade]

Depends what engine is in it, if its a 1.4, 1.6 or an SDi its basically an 020 box, which is the same as VW's have had since they went FWD, external slave cyl and no DMF...but the boxes are still made of chocolate.

[Pillock]

Is the 020 the one with the thrust bearing on the wrong, and therefore easy end of the box?

 

If so, the diff pins get a bit bored of spinning around in darkness and occasionally pop out for some fresh air - via the box casing.

[Des]

I asked the internet and it would seem a high biting point is pretty common, so DMF can go sniff my middle finger, I intend to go to my grave having never made their aquaintance. It's a hydraulic setup, maybe there's a pushrod on the slave I could take a 1/4'' off, or take a lump hammer to the bulkhead and move the master forward, or replace the dot 4 with the syrup from a tin of pineapple chunks.

[Barry Cade]

Is the 020 the one with the thrust bearing on the wrong, and therefore easy end of the box?

 

If so, the diff pins get a bit bored of spinning around in darkness and occasionally pop out for some fresh air - via the box casing.

Yup, that's the one called a DUU now and a couple of other codes. Its the rivets off the diff that make a break for freedom, usually into the bellhousing covering your clutch in gear oil... beware of clutch slip on these..may be more than just a worn clutch. Guess what the repair kit consists of?

 

Bolts. To replace the rivets.

 

They've only been making these for about 40 years FFS. Buy a Maestro....   oops.

[HH-R]

OMG HOPE UR NOT AL DISSIN GLOFZ

[Asimo]

I bought a MK4 1.4 new: the 80 series tyres were the best bit.