The new old shit.

[oman5]

It's strangely inconsistent with French cars. Peugeot 306s for example are still ten a penny on the roads despite being out of production for ages. that just shows that 306s are ace and the car for WINNARZ

[Vince70]

We swapped our Laguna 2 when it reached 5 years old with 40000 on the clock for a £250 (£800 dealer price ) Fiesta... It would have been impossible to sell as someone would have come back and burnt the house down and have never owned such Merde...

 

The Fiesta is still going 5 years later with a few more welds here and there and my sister in law refuses to get rid of it.

 

The car dealer we took it too just couldn't resist such a bargain and I saw the Renault taking pride on his forecourt for £3000

 

Mind you it was still there when he went out of business 2 years later...

 

We were very lucky as when he took the car for a test drive it actually worked for the 10 minutes and he didn't try the windows or the aircon or anything else electrical which was a bonus..

[gordonbennet]

Rental fleets had Laguna 2's, trouble is they spent most of the time off the road for various bloody faults, namely the tyre pressure monitoring.

Pity really, they were lovely to drive, went well, and looked the bollocks.

 

Only had one Ren, a 21 Savanna Disiesel estate, which was a bloody good car with the most fantastic roadholding.

 

Wouldn't give you a thankyou for any car with keyless or credit card entry, you're knackered when the bugger goes wrong.

 

I expect the fastest disappearing acts will be those fitted with electric parking brakes and automated manual/DSG type gearboxes, quite why people buy into this carp i'm buggered if i know....those with DPF's will be joining them once the MOT testers start to tap the filter and find it echoes.

 

BiL had an Audi A4 with the multi-chronic gearbox, which, and i know this is hard to believe for a VW group auto, was playing up.

If it was the mechatronic unit failing it was only around £1200 to fix, a bargain i'm sure, however if that didn't cure it a full rebuild was £4500....what the fuck, why do people buy into this shite....he got shot pdq.

 

Chrysler Neons and Toledo 99 - 04 fast disappearing.

[eddyramrod]

 

I don't even see the current shape and it's been out 3 years.

 

Doesn't our very own Jondugong have one of these?

[chaseracer]

He does.

 

Some good friends of mine have just paid ten large for a year-old C4 hatch. When they came round in it, I realised I had NEVER seen another one outside the dealer forecourt...

[overrun]

My aim is to be able to afford a Nissan Tiida.

Saloon.

 

built on the same floorpan as the Note, but altogether much shitter and nailed together by the Dongfeng motor Co

You high, bro?

 

These even have padded, quilted leather door cards.

[Micrashed]

I think they look Fab-o. Cant wait til they get into the sub £1K category

[Pete-M]

They all do it. Cortinas disappeared overnight, then Sierras, then the MK1 Mondeo. The Mk1 Focus will be next. MK 4 Golfs are already filling scrapyards around the country. Laguna IIs have been scrapyard staples since 2005.

[Vince70]

Another one that has disappeared over night is the mk2 Megane.

But I guess it's not surprising really as it a contender for the OMGFRENCHELECTRICS..

 

The sad thing was the Laguna 2 we bought was to replace a Laguna MK1 Rti 16v which was the most reliable car going and still looked as good as new when it was replaced with the MKII.

 

The ironic thing is I saw the old girl on a dealer forecourt only a couple of years back for £500 still looking good..

How did Renault get it so horribly wrong..

 

Also another contender for a disappearing shod box is the 307 again due to duff electrics.

[dugong]

 

I don't even see the current shape and it's been out 3 years.

 

I still have my swirl-marked example. Sorry. 

[Junkman]

I'm impressed. Almost all the cars in this thread I couldn't even identify, let alone tell how long they've been around and what replaced them and when.

[Vince70]

I always liked the look of the C2 but I've rarely seen one on the road lately

[Junkman]

The window arrangement is a bit muddleheaded, no?

The entire contraption is a bit pointless, what with four seats and no boot.

It thus can't be used for what a car should be there for, hence it is unfit for purpose.

[Hendry]

Cars I think have gone pretty quickly from seeming like new shite to old shite overnight are mainly Jap/far Eastern cars because they looked dated when new.

 

Hyundai Getz is the immediate one that springs to mind, guy at work has a 52 plate which has a horrid interior like something from the 80s, a Laguna 2 interior still looks relatively modern, if you didn't know and someone showed you an interior only shot you'd never think it was a 14year old design.

 

Nissan Note is another, the original model has been out 8 years, seems like only last week, I worked in a Citroen dealer in 06 and we shared a valet bay with a Nissan dealer and I remember the very first ones, now they look really dated.

 

The other is the Peugeot 207, aside from being utter slow shit boxes, they suddenly look really old, been out 8 years when it seems like only yesterday they just came out, they are also proof that it's not just dizzlers with DMFs that shit their clutches in no time at all, we had a fleet of the 1.4 8v 75bhp versions on 61 plates at work and 4 of them developed slipping clutches at 7000 miles and needed replacing.

 

As for cars that are just disappearing in huge numbers, prefacelift Vectra Cs, the scrappys a are awash with them, but not sure why, sure they are boxy, not particularly good looking cars or particularly good but if the reliability of my dads 54 plate 230K mile taxi was anything to go by they last for ages, are cavernous inside and cheap to run, ideal family transport for those on a tight budget.

 

Ps the reason you don't see many C2s around is because not many sold when new, as I said above I worked in a Citroen dealers from 06 and from then until the C2 was discontinued in 09 I'd reckon we sold about 15-20 tops brand new or peg reg in 3 years. Only Citroens that sold in any half decent numbers were C1s, Xsara Picassos and C4 Picasso/Grand 4 Picasso, and about half of all versions of the Picassos sold were on motability, the C4 only really sold as pre reg with huge discounts, hardly anyone bought them new and we didn't sell many 2nd hand ones as when they came back in 3 years later the atrocious build quality meant they were all fucked, the carpets would have worn through and holed, seats fabric all Raggy, exterior door handles would jam in the open position, bits of interior trim missing, and the key fob buttons would be worn through too, that usually priced them out of going on the forecourt due to high prep costs, C5s didn't sell, we didn't sell a single C6 ever, C3s again only sold pre-reg, Berlingo multispaces sold poorly too, in the end the company dropped the sales franchise and kept the after sales franchise because the cars sold so poorly

[DVee8]

My aim is to be able to afford a Nissan Tiida.

Saloon.

 

built on the same floorpan as the Note, but altogether much shitter and nailed together by the Dongfeng motor Co

We have started trials on the new Tiida to be built in Spain and Russia by Nissan

[londonm]

Reading this thread just confirms the four decades I've had of negative stories of Renaults from both mechanics and owners. Thanks a lot guys, I will definitely never ever purchase one now.

[Micrashed]

We had a Laguna 1 (1.8 RT Sport) which was a rather lovely car. I rebuilt the rear suspension because it was too soft for towing ( progressive gasmatics and coil over springs) and apart from a heater matrix (they all do that sir) it never put a foot wrong in 6 years. We would have kept it had I not opened the side of it like a can of sardines on one of those bloody metal hoops buried in the car park floor at B&Q that they use to herd shopping trolleys.

[Justin Case]

Nissan Primera (the later type)  I wonder why, Nissan have a good reputation for reliability and there are still lots of  Micras and Almeras of similar age around.

[Hendry]

Nissan Primera (the later type)  I wonder why, Nissan have a good reputation for reliability and there are still lots of  Micras and Almeras of similar age still around.

Because the diesel ones were all fitted with the Renault 2.2 DCi engine that I have never heard a good word said about because its so bad, not quite sure why it never got the 1.9 DCi Renault produced at the time (though that probably wouldn't be much better) and I'm not certain but think it was based on the Lag 2. That and they didn't sell in huge numbers owing to how ugly and dull it was, I think it was how poorly these sold that made Nissan decide to stop concentrating on conventional saloons and hatches and produce the Note and Qashqai so we have it to thank for those turds getting foisted upon us.

[Micrashed]

 Note and Qashqai so we have it to thank for those turds getting foisted upon us.

You know, i really do like the Note a lot, but the do seem to hold their value, hence looking at the Tiida.

[cort16]

Tiidas never got officially sold in the uk by Nissan . Arnold Clark imported shit loads of them in from Ireland a few years ago. Ive no idea what parts availability will be like.

[Vince70]

My Uncle has a Newish Note and rates it but the build quality can't be that great as it's already needed welding for its mot and it's not an abused example...

[Noel Tidybeard]

Because the diesel ones were all fitted with the Renault 2.2 DCi engine that I have never heard a good word said about because its so bad, not quite sure why it never got the 1.9 DCi Renault produced at the time (though that probably wouldn't be much better) and I'm not certain but think it was based on the Lag 2. That and they didn't sell in huge numbers owing to how ugly and dull it was, I think it was how poorly these sold that made Nissan decide to stop concentrating on conventional saloons and hatches and produce the Note and Qashqai so we have it to thank for those turds getting foisted upon us.

no it wasnt, the 2.2 was a nissan unit of the same family as the 2.5 navara calling it dci was what confused most people

the 1.9 renner lump was fitted but was sold elsewhere

big problem with the 2.2 is the turbo which is a variable vane jobber which cacks up with chod and makes the vanes stick causing over speed which cooks the (too small) bearings

 

its the dodgy renner electric which let them down usually wiring plugs that arent man enuff for the job- bad earth on rear lights used to cause all sorts of nonesense on my 2.0 pez until i did a bodge to run an additional earth to each light cluster

 

the only thing that i found that was obviously from the parts bin was the interior lights from the lunigoona

[jmsguzzi]

Another one that has disappeared over night is the mk2 Megane.image.jpg

But I guess it's not surprising really as it a contender for the OMGFRENCHELECTRICS..

 

 

Amazingly my uncle has had 3 of them he likes them that much. First a pre facelift, then a CC and then a facelift which he still has now. I can't recall his ever going wrong.

[passmethegun]

The 206 SW's are getting pretty thin on the ground these days too, I remember thinking at the time they looked a shitload better than the hatch with their trick rear door handles and tinted windows.

 

[Rocket88]

Pug 1007...a hateful little device, if ever there was one. Way too heavy, and the slidy doors took about 2 Ice Ages to close.

[gordonbennet]

Pug 1007...a hateful little device, if ever there was one. Way too heavy, and the slidy doors took about 2 Ice Ages to close.They were always

 

There was always at least one with the interior fully stripped out in the Pug workshops at the time, with a baffled sparky trying to fathom what was wrong with the bleedin junk.

 

Haven't seen one for ages, they all where they should be now, forming the chassis of cheap washing machine shite?

[Partridge]

They were appalling things. There's one in my road quite a bit, but it's the only one I ever see.

Future shite or just shit now and shit forever?

[chaseracer]

Every time I drop the sprogs off at school, we pass a 1007 which has been gathering moss & guano on a driveway for some time now. It works better as an 'art installation' than it ever did as a 'car'.

[Split_Pin]

I'm hugely confused by this thread. None of the cars mentioned are at all uncommon where I live in Scotland?

 

The only semi-exception would be MK1 Corsas. Whereas the standard ones are still bumbling around aplenty, modified or GSi examples rarely exist outside of Club Meets or shows or whatever. Back in the day when I had my first one, in 2002,  there were hundereds of modified ones, some bad, some good.

 

Prefacelift Vectra B's are thinning out here but by no means uncommon. There are still a few late Cavaliers kicking about.

 

What have almost vanished are MK1 Primeras and Almeras, MK1 Mondeos, Sierras,  Escorts of any sort, even the vans, MK4 'sad-face' Fiestas and in particular the Courier version. I hade to put seatbelts on my eyes when I saw one of the latter a few weeks ago, it just looked so out-of place in light of all the Transit Conects you see!