MoT failure figures , which car companys are best ?

[blackbird]

http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/news/new-mot-failure-figures-reveal-surprises-120500051.html

[George-Roper]

Many would be owners fault though through not checking lights 1st etc though. VW featuring on there is a surprise is that through the chopped spring nobbery scene?.

[alf892]

These are the figures for the vehicle first MoT.........so they are just 3 years old so not too many chopped spring merchants. 

 

It would be useful to know mileages though. I would assume the vast majority of VWs (for example) will be fleet (or recently ex fleet) with highish mileages presented by a driver who wouldn't think of checking anything pre test.....

 

Then you get the ones coming off fleet where the lease company will have put off or declined to spend prior to sale and the optimistic buyer just sticks it in for test.

 

Oh............and because they are just three years old so have dealer tests probably at service time so it pays (the dealer) to fail then pass

 

I only go to the test station to pick up the ticket!

[HillmanImp]

I only go to the test station to pick up the ticket!

 

Opposite of me. The garage I use is a free retest within 2 weeks so I normally just punt it through and see what the deal is.

 

Obviously I maintain my cars meticulously thoughout the year and there is never anything wrong with them at test time...............*

 

 

*Total bollocks 

[meggersdog]

How many of these failures are down to bald tyres I wonder

[Lukas]

The same can be seen at the german TÃœV-statistics for 3, 5, 7, 9 and 11 year old cars.

 

Take a look at the german facts:

 

http://www.tuev-sued.de/auto-fahrzeuge/tools-services/tuev-report-2013/maengelriesen-und-fehlerzwerge

 

Most german makes are good at the beginning, but after a few years, the japanese cars are the best ones.

 

L

[Hendry]

I've just seen this on am-online and was going to post a similar topic, it's weird how Audi are among the top ten but VW and Seat are in the bottom 10 when their cars are all built using mostly the same parts etc.

 

The C4 being as bad as it is doesn't surprise me, when I worked at Citroen we regularly saw 2 year old examples get traded in absolutely hanging despite being looked after (service histories, unmarked bodywork, clean undamaged interiors etc) with the stereotypical French trim falling off etc. and needing loads spent on reconditioning for resale, nearly all of them had holes in the shitty flimsy thin drivers carpet, the key fob buttons were always ripped/holed, random warning lights on, parcel shelf clips, window winder handles, dash trims etc hanging off or lying in a footwell. It was a complete backward step from the ZX and Xsara which although not particularly exciting or interesting or daringly styled cars were leagues ahead.

[Spiny Norman]

 

The study excluded supercars and low-volume brands that had been MoT tested less than 2,000 times, so brands like MG, Maserati and Caterham do not feature.

 

So MG's aren't shit after all, they're rare and desirable supercars like Maseratis. Now I understand.

[garbaldy]

How many of these failures are down to bald tyres I wonder

 

I expect quite a few.

my boss's daughter came up to fish in a two year old merc , I got called around to look at the car as it was making a strange noise, I looked under car to see the remains of a tree stump and the belly tray bent down onto the ground, 

removed belly tray and stump and told them to go to the garage to get it sorted as it had bent and squashed pipes, 

the reply oh it doesn't matter its getting traded in next month

 I said well you might get a better trade in price if the tires had tread on them ah it doesn't matter I wont have to mot it

 

so there you have it a look into the mind of the wealthy

[Pillock]

ALL VAUXHALLS ARE MISSING FROM THE RESULTS AND THEREFORE THEIR QUALITY CANNOT BE PROVEN

[gary_davidson]

If the numbers include vans then it should be no surprises than the Kangoo and Berlingo are bottom of the list, used and abused by those not capable of driving a proper van.

 

ALL VAUXHALLS ARE MISSING FROM THE RESULTS AND THEREFORE THEIR QUALITY CANNOT BE PROVEN

that's because they all broke down on the way to the test centre

[John F]

 

I feel I can contribute some helpful* insight into these findings.

 

As many of you know. I own a C4 HDi with the OMFGDEYSSHIT 1.6 engine, with all 92 throbbing nags of thrustitude.

 

The only part of the interior that shows wear is the drivers seat - and that's where the bolster has wrinkled from my salad-shirking posterior. It's currently on 121k, and the interior is otherwise fine, except for the glovebox (it's on its third, from a scrapper after the former pair jammed their latches and had to be smashed open) and the clips for the bottom half of the OSF door card, which undid themselves and disappeared somewhere, presumably to Finland to pork my ex.

 

I had trouble with the latch on the folding rear seat but managed to retension the spring. The trim has held up pretty well, and there's no rattles other than the occasional zizz from the instrument pack. The cure is to twat it from the right hand side with a slap of the palm.

 

About a month ago the left hand tailgate trim that holds the parcel shelf decided it couldn't be arsed and fell off. meaning I'll have to get another one from a scrapper. One of the rear clusters is also letting in water.

 

I know that sounds like a fairly long list of faults, but it's been driven almost every day for seven years and in all weathers, and believe me not all of the miles have been gentle. It's never failed an MOT.

 

lol my nineeen year old VAUXHALL Calibra is in better condition than that

[Albert Ross]

Industry recommendation is to test prior to any other work, so a true picture of genuine maintenance/wear/abuse is displayed. Any other pattern can skew figures and render surveys like this unreliable.

[John F]

Not as unreliable as it would have been if the survey had been performed by Citroen...

[John F]

Well, one of them had to work sooner or later. You must love driving it at night.

Most of the Calibras I've seen are rusty asfuck, and the rest get bummed for NOVAH \ CORSOH RED TOP M8 engine conversions.

 

Then they find they've actually got that ecowank 'junior XE' bollocks and I laugh at them.

 

 

 

Sense of humour failure?

[John F]

Don't worry about it, happens to us all every now & then.

 

But for info, you won't see many rusty Calibras – they were galvanised from '94 onwards. Also, I've never really understood why the X20XEV gets such bad press, it was actually quite a good engine once the early sensor failure issues were dealt with. Not that I'd get a Calibra with one though, I prefer the V6.

The bit about driving Calibras at night is 100% true, you'd be better off shining your phone through the windscreen