RedSparrow Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Bit of Dacia love going on recently so this thread is all about finding as many different models based on the 1300 as possible. I'll start with that bloody Liberta thing: And my favourite, the 1410 Sport: cros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian_pt Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Pedant alert - that's not a Liberta but a 1320. Liberta was confusingly also known as the 1325 and was first presented at the end 1989. The 1320 had a very short shelf life... A warning: there are at least 50 or so Dacia variants! Including several versions of the Dacia Sport - I can think of at least 4... 1320: Liberta / 1325 Finally something mega rare - Dacia 4x4. About 10 made in the mid 1980s. WHY? cros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSparrow Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Amazing they went to the trouble of making new glass/panels for 2 models that look basically the same. What a waste of time!Feel free to be as pedantic as you like btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksy Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Another offshoot from the R12 - not strictly Dacia I know - was this: The Ford Corcel.. Tamworthbay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 947 variations on a theme of ming. Qualidee work, Romanian fellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Another offshoot from the R12 - not strictly Dacia I know - was this: The Ford Corcel.. That actually looks more 70s/80s Audi 80 to me, mind you i do need glasses.Is that one of those jobbies made in Brazil/Argentina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Here's a question. Why did Dacia fail in the UK? It's not as if we weren't happy buying cast off designs made in the Eastern Block and the Renault 12 wasn't long discontinued and was a good seller in the UK, certainly better than the Fiat 124/125. It was well priced and a generation newer than its Polish and Soviet rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSparrow Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 This is from AROnline: In 1980, it was given a light facelift to become the 1310 and it was in this form that the car came to the UK as the Dacia Denem. It actually went on sale at the end of 1982 – hitting the market at the same time as the Ford Sierra – and was sold as the ‘New name in family cars’ and ‘the very acceptable Dacia Denem.’ Priced from £3190, it was a new entrant in the extremely busy budget car sector. Rivals included the Lada 1200 (£2499), FSO 1300 (£2599), Skoda Estelle 120L (£2449) and Yugo 511 (£2849) and, in that context, the Denem wasn’t exactly a bargain, despite being arguably better to drive than the lot of them. Anyway, needless to say, UK buyers ignored the Denem in thier droves, choosing instead to buy more established rivals. The Denem’s failure here was a reflection of how wide the differences between East and West had become – working families here turned up their noses at a car reserved for the Communist Party nomenklatura in its homeland. So I'd say a combination of it being a new brand to the market and being that bit more money than the others.Mind you, the UK was more friendly with Romania than most other commie countries back then. From spottedlaurel's flickr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 If they'd of fitted electric windows throughout the range then I'm sure it would of sold better. How did it compare on price and spec to a base model Sierra/Escort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 That pickup was sold by Hazeldene Motors in Norwich. They sold Dacia, FSO and Yugo for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian_pt Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Difficult to say why the Denem failed so badly. The advertising didn't help, of course. Build quality, though never great, was actually pretty good on early 1310 models till about 1985. And IIRC the concessionaires went bust about eight months in. Only about 700 ish were sold, press reported at the time. Shifters were sold from B reg through to at least H reg so they did quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSparrow Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 If they'd of fitted electric windows throughout the range then I'm sure it would of sold better. How did it compare on price and spec to a base model Sierra/Escort? The closest I can find is the MK2 Escort from 1980:1.3 L Two Door: £34301.3 XL Two Door: £37301.3 XL Four Door: £38301.6 Ghia Four Door: £4420 Dacia obviously thought they were a cut above the other Eastern bloc tat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 If they'd of fitted electric windows throughout the range then I'm sure it would of sold better. How did it compare on price and spec to a base model Sierra/Escort? The closest I can find is the MK2 Escort from 1980:1.3 L Two Door: £34301.3 XL Two Door: £37301.3 XL Four Door: £38301.6 Ghia Four Door: £4420 Dacia obviously thought they were a cut above the other Eastern bloc tat! With rack and pinion steering they probably were! I think that Dacia should of succeeded in the mid 1980s in the same way that Proton scored a success in the 90s by having a slightly out of date design priced between the Comecon imports and the base model Escort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Hang on a minte, the Shifter pick up is rear wheel drive???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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barefoot Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia_Pick-Up The vehicle was available with a number of different transmission styles including front wheel drive, rear wheel drive and 4x4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSparrow Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 Loads of brochures here:http://www.lesrenaultdepapier.fr/Dacia_Vintage.htm egg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volksy Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 The Dacia Nova looks like a shrunken offspring of the Peugeot 309 and Saab 9000. A bit of research shows that its a 100% Romanian design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I seem to remember a lot of dealers who sold low rent cars like the Dacias back in the day were usually really shit and seemed to swap from one brand to another. This can't have helped sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I honestly can't remember who my local (Wirral) dealer was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Something (probably wrongly) tells me it was Hardings but I think a garage in Flint also sold them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren t claim Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 And another thing, I call these Day-see-ars but the new models Dat-chi-as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Oh, just found this... http://www.daciaforum.co.uk/topic/308-a ... mory-lane/ And one user must have superglued his own fingers together after typing this.. 'Fortunately Dacia has come a long way since those cars' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian_pt Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 OK - a bit more on Dacias in the UK... Duster in 1991 Duster in 1985 Duster ad Shifter from this site Denem in Wales - apparently got scrapped in 2011. Still in good nick in 2003 when I saw it. Denem estate - but with the front end and bumpers off a R12! I guess parts were hard to find Price list from 1988 Shifter in 1987 Ads from 1990 Shifter in 1985 - this must have been one of the first Shifter in 1991 On Ebay a long time ago Dacia at a West German motor show in 1984 Finally, in Israel they were known as the Delta. Advertising was similarly inspired... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandamonium Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandamonium Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 And a Ford Corsel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsinthewelder Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'd never noticed how much the front on these looks like a BL princess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren12ts Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Hi Long time lurker on this site. Here are my 2 versions of the Denem. Firstly my 1974 Mk 1 12TS IMG00426-20121212-1103 by balby62, on Flickr Secondly my 1976 Mk2 12TS IMG12ts by balby62, on Flickr Cheers RedSparrow and Novanick1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexg Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Hi Ren12ts and welcome. Two lovely 12s you have, you should start a thread on them with more info and pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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