Extinct cars

[IronStar]

22 minutes ago, lisbon_road said:

Not that long ago, I saw this at a garage close to where I work.  I was told that it had been recently brought over from Poland.  I dug the picture out as I couldn't remember what it was, and looked it up and the DVLA think it is a Fiat.  Not sure about that.  Must be pretty rare, whatever it is.

 

 

That’s Polski Fiat 125p. Currently SORN.

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20 hours ago, SEATMad said:

Sao Penza - 0 Left  

Well there is one on here.

[chaseracer]

1 hour ago, SEATMad said:

Surprises me that more 125p's have survived than Polonez's 

Many moons ago, a colleague bought a new Polonez using a 5-year bank loan.  There were still a few months owing when she scrapped it...

[sierraman]

32 minutes ago, chaseracer said:

Many moons ago, a colleague bought a new Polonez using a 5-year bank loan.  There were still a few months owing when she scrapped it...

I’d like to think someone took attorney over his finances with decisions like that. 

[plasticvandan]

Original 127 based fiorino,there's the blue one off this forum,and I don't know if any others on the road.my dad had one c.1995,and it was rotten then,but I loved it and promised myself when I was old enough to drive I would have one,that came and they had literally all rotted away.

[SEATMad]

On the FSO topic, I would genuinely be interested to know how many RHD FSO's are actually left here. Every one I ever see is always a LHD import. Don't think I remember ever seeing a RHD FSO around, not even at shows. 

Changing the subject, does anyone know of any Dacia Denem's are still kicking around? They look pretty extinct now. 

1 hour ago, egg said:

Well there is one on here.

Yeah I do recall someone telling me the guy who owned it was kicking around here once. 

[MantaGTE85]

Fiat Croma, the large Signum-based estate one that sold from 2005 to 2007, a few ended up as taxis in my area but that was at least ten years ago. I've not seen any more since. 

Has anyone yet mentioned the Seat Terra utility vehicle that was on sale in the early '90s? 

[SEATMad]

30 minutes ago, MantaGTE85 said:

Fiat Croma, the large Signum-based estate one that sold from 2005 to 2007, a few ended up as taxis in my area but that was at least ten years ago. I've not seen any more since. 

Has anyone yet mentioned the Seat Terra utility vehicle that was on sale in the early '90s? 

Hell the 80's Croma's are practically extinct now in RHD form anyways.

 

I reckon the MG6 will hold Tagora, Malaga, Lonsdale and SAO Penza autoshite status one day if I'm honest.

[bramz7]

40 minutes ago, MantaGTE85 said:

Fiat Croma, the large Signum-based estate one that sold from 2005 to 2007, a few ended up as taxis in my area but that was at least ten years ago. I've not seen any more since. 

Has anyone yet mentioned the Seat Terra utility vehicle that was on sale in the early '90s? 

Here's one for sale (Croma)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202407222035578

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19 minutes ago, bramz7 said:

Here's one for sale (Croma)

Simca Hero @Mr_Bo11ox had one, if I recall correctly

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28 minutes ago, SEATMad said:

I reckon the MG6 will hold Tagora, Malaga, Lonsdale and SAO Penza autoshite status one day if I'm honest.

Sandero BASE may well be a source of much excite in a few years too.

[SEATMad]

26 minutes ago, egg said:

Sandero BASE may well be a source of much excite in a few years too.

Very good shout. Early Sandero's in general will be very very rare one day. I reckon these will get very thin on the ground in the coming years. 

 

 

[RayMK]

@SEATMad Why do you think that (Mitsubishi Mirage)?  I've had mine since  Dec 2017.  There are at least 3 locally and one was following me the other day when I was elsewhere.  In the USA they sold surprisingly well.  Mine has not shown any signs of corrosion yet, unlike the Mitsubishi i that I had from new in 2007.  Reliability has been 100% and it's got more useable room inside than most competitors which, for reasons that I can't fathom, outsold it.

I would nominate MK 1 leafs for extinction in another 10 years unless someone can re-engine them with an A series or maybe a Peugeot Diesel to make them practical. I quite like their shape.  

[SEATMad]

5 minutes ago, RayMK said:

@SEATMad Why do you think that (Mitsubishi Mirage)?  I've had mine since  Dec 2017.  There are at least 3 locally and one was following me the other day when I was elsewhere.  In the USA they sold surprisingly well.  Mine has not shown any signs of corrosion yet, unlike the Mitsubishi i that I had from new in 2007.  Reliability has been 100% and it's got more useable room inside than most competitors which, for reasons that I can't fathom, outsold it.

I would nominate MK 1 leafs for extinction in another 10 years unless someone can re-engine them with an A series or maybe a Peugeot Diesel to make them practical. I quite like their shape.  

Although common now, I can just foresee these suffering high attrition. They also never sold as well as their direct competition such as the Jazz or Yaris and they don't hold much value on the second hand market. Early ones can be snapped up for dirt cheap these days which tells me that the type of people buying them will just simply run them into the ground and scrap once they've died. Most people will hold very little love for it. Give it another 15 odd years and I believe these will be rare sight. 

Shame really, as I actually really like them. Keep yours in good kick, could end up a unicorn. 

[RayMK]

2 minutes ago, SEATMad said:

Although common now, I can just foresee these suffering high attrition. They also never sold as well as their direct competition such as the Jazz or Yaris and they don't hold much value on the second hand market. Early ones can be snapped up for dirt cheap these days which tells me that the type of people buying them will just simply run them into the ground and scrap once they've died. Most people will hold very little love for it. Give it another 15 odd years and I believe these will be rare sight. 

Shame really, as I actually really like them. Keep yours in good kick, could end up a unicorn. 

Yeah.  You could be right.  It did not help when Mitsubishi withdrew from the UK market, leaving potential owners wondering about spares availability.  I've not noticed particularly low prices at car dealers but the earlier pre facelift Mirages and preceding  Colts are definitely cheapies now.

[SEATMad]

1 minute ago, RayMK said:

Yeah.  You could be right.  It did not help when Mitsubishi withdrew from the UK market, leaving potential owners wondering about spares availability.  I've not noticed particularly low prices at car dealers but the earlier pre facelift Mirages and preceding  Colts are definitely cheapies now.

Yeah that's a good point I forgot to mention. You're right Mitsubishi's withdrawal will not help matters. I do hope I'm wrong though

[agent]

I reckon the Suzuki Swace (and their rav4 rebadge thing for that matter) are a good bet for the SAO Penza of 2050, the Corolla versions might be the single most common thing about nowadays but I've seen 2 total of the suzukis and who the fuck will be keeping the weird poor selling Suzuki rebadge going in 30 years? Those new Mitsubishi blob things that are obvious lazy Renault rebadges with the same Renault headlight styling and all still I can see falling into this category too, though I don't think we're getting those here.

Ironically enough one of the only ones I have seen was in the field at FOTU last year, if you were going to have a modern car in the field it's probably the most fitting thing you could find.

And of course anything chinese seems like it'll have grenaded the total remaining supply of mechanical components (the ones that aren't using 30 year old GM part bin bits anyway) once it hits 10 years old, The MG6 seems to already be walking the line between shit modern and proper shite.

[neil72]

2 hours ago, SEATMad said:

Hell the 80's Croma's are practically extinct now in RHD form anyways.

 

I reckon the MG6 will hold Tagora, Malaga, Lonsdale and SAO Penza autoshite status one day if I'm honest.

Central London Croma, well known car

 

 

 

[catsinthewelder]

On 08/08/2024 at 18:49, SEATMad said:

Changing the subject, does anyone know of any Dacia Denem's are still kicking around? They look pretty extinct now. 

I believe one survived but is now in a museum in Romania.  I think theres a couple of RHD Shifters and Dusters.

[MantaGTE85]

3 hours ago, bramz7 said:

Here's one for sale (Croma)

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202407222035578

That's a great spot. It's a bASe 'Dynamic' trim level too.

[mk2_craig]

On 08/08/2024 at 18:49, SEATMad said:

Don't think I remember ever seeing a RHD FSO around

Fairly recently some of us were losing our shit over a garage-find Polonez in just about restorable condition which turned up in an auction. It went for something daft like 4 grand 

[RichardK]

5 hours ago, MantaGTE85 said:

Fiat Croma, the large Signum-based estate one that sold from 2005 to 2007, a few ended up as taxis in my area but that was at least ten years ago. I've not seen any more since. 

Has anyone yet mentioned the Seat Terra utility vehicle that was on sale in the early '90s? 

I saw one for sale as a camper last month.

Also my first new "car" - an L-reg Terra D I ended up PXing my X1/9 for because I'd bought a Manta and couldn't run two sports cars on the company. Should have chucked the Manta.

I wanted a Marbella 4x4 with twin sunroofs and that diesel engine - the Terra could crack 70mpg and went like stink if you used the gears properly.

[SEATMad]

3 hours ago, neil72 said:

Central London Croma, well known car

 

 

 

Yeah seen this one floating around the Flickr circles some time ago, isn't there a question mark over weather or not it's still alive?  

[SEATMad]

2 hours ago, catsinthewelder said:

I believe one survived but is now in a museum in Romania.  I think theres a couple of RHD Shifters and Dusters.

I looked up "Dacia Denem" in the main forum search tab and found a thread from 11 years ago that @Sam Glover managed to find one? Pardon my lack of AS knowledge however what ever happened to that? 

[catsinthewelder]

@SEATMad I know a chap called Nigel in NI owned it for a bit and regrets selling it as it's now abroad.  Presumably it's the same one that Sam owned.

[warren t claim]

On 15/07/2012 at 23:46, Guest said:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2632/3718062262_dd0c0fcd70.jpg

Lonsdale Cars Advert 1983 by Trigger's Retro Road Tests!, on Flickr

Was the UK the only export market for Lonsdale?

[neil72]

7 hours ago, SEATMad said:

Yeah seen this one floating around the Flickr circles some time ago, isn't there a question mark over weather or not it's still alive?  

Its still around, the other Central London one was untaxed for a bit but its now taxed, here it is in 2022:

 

[Gompo]

3 hours ago, neil72 said:

Its still around, the other Central London one was untaxed for a bit but its now taxed, here it is in 2022:

 

There's two white ones in London, the first one posted is the LHD one; and of course this one quoted is RHD.

[Gompo]

 

[Conan]

On 09/08/2024 at 00:49, SEATMad said:

On the FSO topic, I would genuinely be interested to know how many RHD FSO's are actually left here. Every one I ever see is always a LHD import. Don't think I remember ever seeing a RHD FSO around, not even at shows. 

There's definitely a few RHD Polonez still in the UK, but one was not originally a UK car either. Somebody of this parish (can't remember who) exported one from Thailand.

15 hours ago, SEATMad said:

Although common now, I can just foresee these suffering high attrition. They also never sold as well as their direct competition such as the Jazz or Yaris and they don't hold much value on the second hand market. Early ones can be snapped up for dirt cheap these days which tells me that the type of people buying them will just simply run them into the ground and scrap once they've died. Most people will hold very little love for it. Give it another 15 odd years and I believe these will be rare sight. 

Shame really, as I actually really like them. Keep yours in good kick, could end up a unicorn. 

I kind of agree with this, but not wholly. We have one, first year model. They're lightly built and not very durable, but extremely reliable with no obvious mechanical idiocy, and they built a shitton of them with not much variation so spare parts should be fine for a while. I think they'll drop like flies once hit a certain age, but people who likes them really likes them, so there'll always be a few around in the next 30 years, definitely more than a handful. It won't be like the Subaru Justy, Suzuki Cultus, or even the 80's Mirage right now.