Four head gaskets and two engines later... End of thread

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

  ashmicro said:

The HGF is almost always caused by something else, usually a coolant loss from a pipe as here, or the inlet manifold gasket letting go and pissing out water. I saw one which was caused by the 'stat housing cracking.

 

Don't they have a low-coolant warning light??? My car's got one, and with an engine nowhere near as prone to HGF!

[SambaS]

I had an ABS warning light and the engine management light (always on).. towards the very end of my journey I had an engine oil light too. The temperature gauge read normal well into the strange noises and lack of power and then rose very quickly and then fell again to normal. I don't believe there is a low coolant light though, no.

[SambaS]

Is this any good? I don't want cheap. I want right, in this case. Thanks.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROVER-K-SERIES-MLS-HEAD-GASKET-SET-AND-BOLTS-/200533973765?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2eb0c19b05

[SambaS]

This was the Land Rover Discovery when we broke down in Glasgow picking up a Clio Sport from Glasgow.

 

 

This was the damage to the cylinders. We have since sourced another engine.

 

[meggersdog]

The MLS gasket is the one to go for.You will at least need the head skimmed,possibly hydraulic lifters and in some cases the block gets so hot it fooks the piston rings.

[SambaS]

Someone said not to skim the head..

 

  Largactil said:

DO NOT SKIM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

[MikeKnight]

Skim only if it needs it, if it's warped. Since it sounds like you "ran it hot" for a while it could be warped.

 

Otherwise don't.

[SambaS]

Knowing my luck Mike running it for so long I would think the liners or bores or whatever are borked too. But I really didn't have a choice I had to get it off the motorway.

 

  MikeKnight said:

Skim only if it needs it, if it's warped. Since it sounds like you "ran it hot" for a while it could be warped.

 

Otherwise don't.

[M'coli]

According to Car Mechanics article (Oddly enough I found this last night when hunting for the current issue amongst my filing pile) on replacing the K-series heid gasket, Powertrain recommend a skim of no more than 8-thou.

[SambaS]

I would like to go to a machine shop where they can show me what they do. I have this problem where I DO NOT trust any body who cannot show me the fault with my car. That's why I like my garage of choice so much he will point out the MOT fails as he finds them and show me the problem.

 

I feel if they are quiet they can take my part and say oh yes we did this, and we did that, and it needed this and I just go "oh right".

[M'coli]

Ian Myers near York is good for this - as in, you turn up and the workshop doubles as the office. I've used him a few times, always impressed with the work and with the advice.

 

  York Online said:

Ian Myers

Moor Monkton

York

YO26 8JJ

Type of Business

 

Ian Myers are listed under:

Manufacturing_and_Industry > Engine_Rebuilding_and_Reconditioning

 

Telephone: 01904 738351

[meggersdog]

Don't know about K-series but some heads (Peugeot do) have a safe depth to skim to machined into them.If you've ever wondered what that round indent that goes nowhere was for now you know.Usually about half an inch in diameter and around a millimetre in depth.

[andrew e]

I'd a) see if the oil is fully of mayonnaise, and if not change the inlet manifold gasket as already mentioned. However if c) If it borked you are probably looking at £500 for a HG change (and skim as/if required) and an abs sensor (plus maybe a lambda sensor to get they other light out). I'd wager the smart money is broke in parts on ebay, sorry about that.

[SambaS]

Luckily for me the mechanic where I work is going to do this work for me so I only have to pay for the parts, around £50 for the HG set, £70 for a skim and pressure test if needed. We have oil, coolant, filters, plugs and everything as the MG was due a service today. Glad the HG went yesterday really.

 

Also if the engine is no good I have a mate who has a spare one that he bought off eBay and didn't use as when he put it in it was too tappety for his liking, which in my experience clears up after 50 miles or so (or certainly did when I did the XR3s HG), or may need to be resolved with new hydraulic tappets, or even just some of that oil called "shut the funk up you bastard hydraulic tappets" or summit.

 

So I could break it, sure, but with this job done right that will be he cars achilles heel sorted for another 30,000 miles (hopefully!)

[Charlie Croker]

Thanks for the advice on the alternator belt.I will check it in the morning. I'm glad your sticking with the car and not just scrapping it as most would........these are a great car. also with it being a 51 plate it's a fairly early one.

[Cavcraft]

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[outlaw118]

And again...........

[SambaS]

Steve moved the MG trailer to my new lock up last week using Joe's A frame.. I may have to A frame something back from Wales with it in the future... with the best luck in the world a car from my past has turned up for sale so I'm deciding which liver I dont need and probably putting it on eBay. Yeah I know.

 

 

Here's one for getting your prorities right:

 

 

I haz an door

[KruJoe]

It worked then! And you managed not to slaughter the kitten population of Northallerton? Well done lads!

[SambaS]

Assuming the worst and I have to replace the engine... what cars have the same engine as my ZR 1.4..

 

IS there any difference between the Rover 25/ 45 engines to that in the MG.

 

Just because my mates yard is full of Rovers.

 

I have just ordered an MLS Head gasket set for it so fingers crossed that will do

[purplebargeken]

Ooooh, there's a good chippy in the High Street in Northallerton. Well there was a few years ago.

[AndyW201]

  On 14/06/2013 at 09:41, SambaS said:

Assuming the worst and I have to replace the engine... what cars have the same engine as my ZR 1.4..

 

IS there any difference between the Rover 25/ 45 engines to that in the MG.

 

Just because my mates yard is full of Rovers.

 

I have just ordered an MLS Head gasket set for it so fingers crossed that will do

AFAIK the 214/414 had the engine in 102 bhp flavour, like the ZR, but it was detuned to 88 bhp(?) when the 25 came out, before being upped to 102 again for the ZR.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

the 88BHP version is identical, its just got a smaller throttle body on it!

[SambaS]

So I can use the head and bottom end if need be? From owt with a K series 1.4, without loosing powah?

[Mr_Bo11ox]

pretty much, make sure you dont buy an earlier engine with a dizzy, yours will be the coil pack job , other than that I dont think you can go far wrong

[SambaS]

Awesomes, I have the HG set in the post, hopefully it wont need a new engine but we'll see when the lid comes off.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

this is quite a good K-series headgasket thread, have a read before getting stuck in.

 

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1224322&d=0&nmt=

[SambaS]

Cool thanks, Will's doing it for me I think up at Joe's so I will point him in the direction of it.

 

 

WILLLLLLLLLLLL! WILLLLLLLLLLLL!

 

WILL?

 

WILL?

 

I don't think he's here :/

[KruJoe]

I linked Will to this thread yesterday, but I just told him to read to the the end of it again.

Edd, did you know I have a good K 1.4 in my R8 breaker in the field? I haven't checked if it's too early for you though...

 

 

It's a 1994 car, and has MPi, not the SPi of the first R8's.

[explosive-cabbage]

  On 15/06/2013 at 23:53, Mr_Bo11ox said:

this is quite a good K-series headgasket thread, have a read before getting stuck in.

 

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1224322&d=0&nmt=

Good thread to know about, thanks Mr Bollox.

 

I'm here Edd, I can only get on here on my phone most of the week, and its a bit tempramental, so its probably best you text me!