Today I saw an 03 plate C5 V6 in the scrapyard

[messerschmitt owner]

Today I was at Harry Buckland's and saw a very tidy, non-accident damaged V6 Citroen C5 on an 03 plate in for breaking - it looked superb and the leather interior was mint.

 

Has the £1.35 gallon really had such an effect?

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

probably had some funny ECU fault that required thousands to repair.

 

I think you're unlikely to find much for £1.35 a gallon, unless you're referring to Morrisons Value Table (not Mineral or even Spring) Water.

[M'coli]

That and the roadtax, I would expect.

[AnthonyG]

Probably an expensive electronic or mechanical fault - Ebay has 05,55, and even an 06 car being broken up for parts, both privately and trade. All those I have seen have been French - lots of Renaults with the self destruct dci engines. The 06 plate car was a Peugeot 407 with a lunched engine.

 

Also seen a 54 plate Modus that turned itself off any every 10 miles for some reason, even with that and some mild vandal damage it made 700 quid or so.

 

Have these tax changes actually happened yet? - I thought they had been canned recently. There's a lot of myth about £450 yearly tax out there, I've never come across anybody whos actually paid that for a pre 2006 vehicle.

[M'coli]

I think you're unlikely to find much for £1.35 a gallon, unless you're referring to Morrisons Value Table (not Mineral or even Spring) Water.

Tesco in Seacroft lastnight: 131.9 for pez, 134.9 for diesel.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

per GALLON? Where is Seacroft?

[fiatdaft]

Road tax probably wouldn't be the reason but with the value of those things it probably needed the screenwash refilled !

[AnthonyG]

per GALLON? Where is Seacroft?

 

The United Arab Emirates, by those prices!

[andrew e]

I doubt its the tax, more catastrophic failure. My neighbour has a 2002 HDI that failed its MOT on trival things last year, to fix + scrap weight value equates as the same price overall in good nick, so some times its as cheap to bale it.

[Shep Shepherd]

I doubt its the tax, more catastrophic failure. My neighbour has a 2002 HDI that failed its MOT on trival things last year, to fix + scrap weight value equates as the same price overall in good nick, so some times its as cheap to bale it.

 

I concur. I think most old 'n' cheap C5s are now at the 'run until it breaks' stage; my friend's very tidy 2001 HDI SX currently has issues with turbo overboost and its rear suspension arms and he doesn't expect it to get through another MOT

 

Makes me glad that I bought TV2 instead of the 2002 C5 HDI LX that I set my heart on...

[r.welfare]

My money's on a lunched autobox on that C5 V6. Seems that this 'sealed for life' bollocks kills quite a few at the 100k mile point, with even premium stuff not being immune - a friend was telling me the other day that his dad has just scrapped an E46 Touring (I think a 330i), about 12 years old, because the autobox had gone for the second time.

[Skinley]

That's a good innings for a modern french car.

[Station]

A headlight bulb perhaps?

[greengartside]

I saw an '52 plate MG ZS in my new local scrapyard yesterday which annoyed me fairly. I'm imagining it's a HGF case but on the face of it looked very presentable for a late 2002 car, even the interior was mint. Obviously not worth someone's time doing it. In an ideal world I'd save it from the crusher and bang a new MLS gasket on it.

 

[retrogeezer]

so much for this country being environmentally friendly.....it's a joke.

[fiatdaft]

why? because a knackered unwanted car is being stripped for parts?

[HillmanImp]

why? because a knackered unwanted car is being stripped for parts?

 

What is probably a repairable car with a bit of effort will need to be replaced in the system by another car. Its stupid.

[Rod/b]

Not really. If the parts of this one car help another 5 stay on the road for a bit longer rather than themselves be scrapped as spares are too expensive to make repairs economically viable then it's not so bad. The shell can be recycled into tins or rebar or something.

 

At the end of the day you could probably take 90% of cars being scrapped and argue that they could be fixed with enough money thrown at them.

[Station]

2002 is quite 'old' in the car world of today. My first proper car was 9 years old and that was 800 quid.

[CreepingJesus]

'Twas ever thus: I was picking parts off 9/10 yr old cars in scrappys 20 odd years ago. La plus ca change, eh?

[retrogeezer]

why? because a knackered unwanted car is being stripped for parts?

 

Just because of all the damage done to the environment producing/shipping etc stuff like this that doesn't even last 10 years. Not great at all is it??

 

'Twas ever thus: I was picking parts off 9/10 yr old cars in scrappys 20 odd years ago. La plus ca change, eh?

 

Knowing about the environmental impact being caused, and the technology at our hands these days things really should have improved by now....

[Bren]

Unfortunately parts are so expensive for certain cars this is what happens - when the auto box on my laguna started playing up I was warned a new box could cost anything up to £2k.

 

I would'nt have paid this, just scrapped it.

 

When main dealers can get away with charging £95 an hour, cars become a disposable item.

[scooters]

I saw an '52 plate MG ZS in my new local scrapyard yesterday which annoyed me fairly. I'm imagining it's a HGF case but on the face of it looked very presentable for a late 2002 car, even the interior was mint. Obviously not worth someone's time doing it. In an ideal world I'd save it from the crusher and bang a new MLS gasket on it.

 

 

 

a mate of mine has one of these and had it mothballed for 3 months whlst he waited for an EFI part....couldn't locate one in the UK and in the end had to go to the OEM manufacturer in China to sell him one from stores - he's in the trade and it was a challenge for him!

 

I think for those not mechanically minded running one of the performance ROVVERZ is a challenge - since the dealer network vanished the lack of support with servicing and parts is a nightmare. Another friend had a ZT or whatever the perfomance 75 is called and had a nightmare with it- once again locating model specific parts for it.

 

I remember having a 75 as a company car and had to take it to a main dealer to adjust the tracking as every tyre specialist I spoke to didn't have the right kit for the 75.,..I also recall spending 500 quid for pollen filter fitting.

[overheadvalve]

I saw an '52 plate MG ZS in my new local scrapyard yesterday which annoyed me fairly. I'm imagining it's a HGF case but on the face of it looked very presentable for a late 2002 car, even the interior was mint. Obviously not worth someone's time doing it. In an ideal world I'd save it from the crusher and bang a new MLS gasket on it.

 

 

OMG ffs where is this?

I bet it's about 70 miles from me.....

Edit: on second thought's it looks like some parts are missing so it's probably fubarred, still worth a look tho'

a mate of mine has one of these and had it mothballed for 3 months whlst he waited for an EFI part....couldn't locate one in the UK and in the end had to go to the OEM manufacturer in China to sell him one from stores - he's in the trade and it was a challenge for him!

 

I think for those not mechanically minded running one of the performance ROVVERZ is a challenge - since the dealer network vanished the lack of support with servicing and parts is a nightmare. Another friend had a ZT or whatever the perfomance 75 is called and had a nightmare with it- once again locating model specific parts for it.

 

I remember having a 75 as a company car and had to take it to a main dealer to adjust the tracking as every tyre specialist I spoke to didn't have the right kit for the 75.,..I also recall spending 500 quid for pollen filter fitting.

 

There are *loads* of specualists and there aint much to the efi system to go wrong, there are specialists for the ecu too, in England. There are plenty of secondhand rovers and MG's around to get secindhand oarts off too, i have 3 Rovers and an MG ZR. No offence meant at all but there are loads of parts around for these fine cars!

 

why? because a knackered unwanted car is being stripped for parts?

 

In fairness and all honesty somefolks have a soft spot for some cars , i have for these MG's (Rovers) and Alfa 156's but especially MGZS's with the firmer suspension and 17" wheels the chassis is good and they handle well the weak point is the 1.8 engine, but it's cheap to fix prperly so it's worth a look,

[greengartside]

It's in a scrapyard near Bury St. Edmunds for anyone who's interested. Surprisingly it's a snapped cambelt rather than the usual HGF, so a new/secondhand head and gubbins would sort it out. It's complete and missing only the alloy wheels, guy wants about 375 quid for it...

[CIH]

Why would that MG annoy ? It's pushing 10 years old, probabl wasn't built all that well and the parent compay went bust mening sketchy parts avaliablity.

Also the 75 doesnt need specialist alignment gear. It's literally a FWD E46 BMW, just like Minis.

[overheadvalve]

The ZS whilst being an ordinary car has a reallt good chassis, it is a very capable (shite) car, and hgf is nothing compared to the problems you can get with an Alfa t/s engine or a FIAT which again are not as bad (read expensive/troublesome/ easy to fix imho etc etc) as you average VAG shite, so to those that rate them, me for instance it's a shame, however Bury St Edmunds is about 90 odd miles from me so erm f*ck it i guess and i have a spare cyl. head

Built well? since when did that matter, ask anyone with a 70's Datsun/ Fiat/ citro.....etc

 

edit: contrary to what seems populasr opinion there is no "sketchy parts availability" we aint playin at being shiteist's we like this shite ffs.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Scrapyards are full of tidy running cars that don't need much work. I went to my local one recently and was absolutely shocked at the number of really nice and not very old cars in there. Not so much shocked, more like disgusted and the sheer fucking waste of what were expensive items which should have a 15-20 year life with a bit of care.

 

And the car auctions are full of tidy cars that don't need anything, and they're worth fuck all as well. Tidy X reg Golfs, Focussssesss, Astras and Compacts for around 5-600 quid, 52 and 53 plate Mondeos for a grand and some very clean L and M plate stuff for a couple of hundred quid. That's why an 03 plate Citroen is in the frag yard - because it's only worth £600.

 

With the economy in the shit, you'd think a respectable used car would be a valuable commodity as more and more jobs are lost. But no, idiots are still pissing money away on new cars like they always did.

[overheadvalve]

[rant mode]

That's another thing, the waste. Some total c*nt has probably got a Kia See'd (yeah i know) on 5 years h.p. in place of that MG.

In all honesty i could not agree more Rev!

cheap foren imports from koreeya.... get rid of them now i say! [/rant mode]

[Negative Creep]

Problem is they're becoming harder and harder for the DIY mechanic. On an older car something like a clutch was fairly straightforward to do, or you'd likely find a mate with the necessary skills to sort it out over the weekend. Except now you'll have to take the engine out, disassemble the subframe, get fault codes cleared afterwards etc etc. Then there's things like mutliplex wiring, which I believe the C5 has - good luck sorting that with a multimetre and scotch locks