The Reverend Bluejeans Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 It's not just buyers who take the piss, sellers too. I won a minty new BMW radiator on t'Bay about 3 weeks ago for 99p. No reserve, and no other bugger wanted it. The seller was a bit gutted but said 'fair's fair, you won it'. I gave him a fiver just out of courtesy really. Bid on some wheels and won them for 99p. I was the only bidder and my bid stood for 4 days. Send the seller a mail asking when I could pick them up and the twat sent a request to cancel the transaction. reason - sold to someone else. A pisser because I wanted them, and would have given him a tenner. So I negged the fucker. Goodbye to your 100% feedback, Fool. Next time set a reserve or pull the auction with 13 hours to go. Was I being harsh negging the Guy?
DCLane Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 No - you did the right thing. They just wanted to avoid the fees. I bought a rocket off someone - it was clearly opened and they'd taken the vital part out. The part was £3 anyway, but I'm sure they'd done it so I'd not notice. Sent them a message and they responded 3 weeks ago saying they would send the item. No response since; so I've filed it with eBay. The item cost over £20 and for a £3 item they're going to get a neg and lose the cash.
Mr Lobster Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 No, I wouldn't say you were harsh. As you say, if he didn't want to sell them for 99p then end the auction early. Its not difficult.
face Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Na, that's not harsh - he listed them as he did, and you won them. They should have been yours
Guest Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 I agree, the bloke is a piece of shit. As a seller you make the mistake of listing something without a reserve once. You learn that lesson quick. I did, and had to watch my supergun and JAMMA boards go for a fraction of what they were worth. I had to sell them, and so should wheels boy. Ebay is shit and I've been dealt some shit hands by it before - that idiot mare from Neath who bid on my Creamfields tickets for example. I've also had some fairly outrageous bargains from it before, last night's 123GT revcounter being a case in point. I really don't think the bloke realised what he had. The Piazza HBL wheels I won for £1 were worth it for the tyres alone, and the bloke was visibly pissed off with me but he should have put a reserve or a minimum starter price on them. It all depends whether or not the seller is a twunt though. As bad as eBay is (or can be), the weakest link of all is where it interfaces with real people. People are twats.
Lord Sterling Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 You did the right thing Rev. Negging isnt very nice and you do question whether you've domne the right thing, but if some twat pulls a fast one, then you've really no choice. I regret not negging some twat who 'sold' me some Rover 825 items, I had been in communication with them, agreed to by the items, bid and paid, the items never arrived, I sent them email after email but never got a reply back. Fuckers.
Rocket88 Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 There's a fairly large bomb about to go off under some poor sod who tried to ebay a specialist ecu which he bought from a Post Office "lost items" sale. Full story in this month's Practical Perfomance comic..............................
Station Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Think people don't want to spend the extra quid or whatever on BIN. I've never used it, purely because I've sold stuff that I don't care if it went for 99p or stuff I know will sell. Worst example I've ever received is this piece of shit: Cracked mount: Cracked lens: Loose inner lens fitting, all cracked (and glued together, and cracked again): He claimed it wasn't like that when he sent it (it must've glued itself in the box then), but said I could have a refund, although he didn't usually do that. Too frigging right I'm having a refund.
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted October 4, 2010 Author Posted October 4, 2010 Fair enough - the neg stays then. I did wonder if I'd been harsh but fuck it - they guy had plenty of time to say "I'll take a tenner for them" or end the listing. That's what I do, not within Ebay rulles but Ebay can piss off anyway. They've not had a bean out of me for months now.
Cavcraft Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Another vote for the neg here. These morons need to learn and hopefully he will be the kind of pin head who will cry and moan forever more about his feedback.
Mr Lobster Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 There's a fairly large bomb about to go off under some poor sod who tried to ebay a specialist ecu which he bought from a Post Office "lost items" sale. Full story in this month's Practical Perfomance comic.............................. Saw this saga over on RR. From what I can see the bloke who bought it from the Post Office isn't at fault. The fact it went missing was almost certainly the fault of either the original seller for not addressing it properly or not bothering with a return address or the PPC fella who bought it and didn't think that perhaps sending something worth £1200 through standard post might not be a good idea. However, going slightly off topic here...
RedSparrow Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Can you post a link to the RR thread? I'm intrigued.Thanks.
meggersdog Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Negative was the right thing to do.To list an item for 99p is 15 pence to list the same item for 9.99 is only 35p.I've just sold some Hornby trains, I listed them with a starting bid of 4.99 which is 20 pence to list.My postage was 3.00 even though some similar items had ten pounds postage.Recorded delivery was an extra 70p and my items still came in at less than 3 quid.If someone is too tight to spend an extra few pence then try to wriggle out of the deal when they only get their starting bid they deserve to be neg'd.
retrogeezer Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Can you post a link to the RR thread? I'm intrigued.Thanks. me too - and I can't find it..
Claypole Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 I've some muppet emailing to moan over the postage on a "Linka" set, I'd already told him I'd refund any difference. He's telling me who and how to send it now to save £2 or so even though he got it cheap in the first place, telling me it went cheapbecause the postage was too high. Others are listed with twice the postage so he's talking shite, just one of those peoplewith time on their hands to nitpick over nothing. They are the same ones I remember from Car booting who would standing and tell you alsorts of guff about stuff you were selling but not actually buy anything but now they can do the same from home.
retrogeezer Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 yeh, isn't it great that you have to put postage costs on the listing, the bidder bids knowing the postage cost and can then leave you negative feedback and mark you down on your postage costs.
dieselnutjob Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 I just bought a car part by buy-it-now and then clicked through and paid paypal etcthen I looked and found an automated email that said this "Notes: PAYPAL - If you do not have sufficient funds in your Paypal account, Paypal will generate an 'echeque' which takes 10-14 days to clear and will delay the sending out of your goods." What the hell is that about? Paypal always take the money from my credit card.He's not saying that it needs to be money that's already in there (like bank transfered or something) so he pays less paypal fees is he?I hope not because it didn't say so in the description.
scaryoldcortina Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 dieselnutjob... check your card expiry date, I;ve had the "e-cheque" thing happen and when I checked it was because my bank had sent me a new card. RR thread here - http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.c ... 234&page=1
autofive Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 i enjoyed that RR thread - gave me a chance to rant about some motoring jounos, before it was locked whats the news on the ebay seller with the offending ecu?
Mike D Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 I'm having an ebay wanker issue at the mo, the other week I bought some 'mint condition with new tyres' Porsche Boxster wheels.. They arrived, packaged in clingfilm. 3 of the wheels are fucked now, the paint on the spoked is either chipped, worn away, or worn down to the metal of the wheel. I paid by paypal, and have now filed a dispute after the bloke refused to reply to me. He replied once to the dispute, saying he'd pay for the worst one and take the others up with the courier. I told him this was unnacceptable, and to either pay the refurb on them all, or refund me... Am i going to get bummed? I know the couriers will tell him to poke it due to inadequate packaging, but where does that leave me? They were quite expensive, i'll be a bit gutted if i lose out! Also, the tyres weren't 'new' at all, defo been used for 5K or so, that I could live with though if the wheels were still ok...
autofive Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 you will get a full refund, paypal will have already siezed the money. dont send em back, dont compromise, keep the wheels take the refund this may seem harsh on the seller, but this is exactly the way 4 buyers have treated me this year, and each time paypal found in their favour, leaving me almost 400 notes out of pocket, and lost several expensive car parts
Guest Tony Hayers Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Wat, who is this clown in Neath? I can go and post some warm cat turds through the flanges letterbox if you want?
Mike D Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Autofive, Sound good to me, i told him i'd re-clingfilm them for him to arrange a courier to pick them up, i'm not in for ripping the bloke off, but i'm sure as hell not geting rimmed over them. lol!
Quintus Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 I've never bought or sold anything on ebay. I signed up once a long time ago, thinking I might use it, but all the negative stuff I've heard about it puts me right off.
Rocket88 Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 327 deals, no bad ones...............must have been really lucky. Bought and sold cars, bits for cars, and all sorts of other old rammle, and apart from some Nigerian wanting to buy an old 504 Estate, and asked me how you get from London to Jersey by train, precious few numpties.....................
steve austin Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 I've never bought or sold anything on ebay. I signed up once a long time ago, thinking I might use it, but all the negative stuff I've heard about it puts me right off.Its definately worthwhile using the bay. Have traded 676 times, still got 100% feedback but have had to leave a couple of negatives, on the whole a good community.
Mr Lobster Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 We sell several hundred items a week on ebay and don't have many problems at all. Most people are decent and honest, make sure you protect yourself - use tracked delivery if selling anything of value and always pay by PayPal if you are buying and you'll be ok. PayPal actually offers better protection for both buyers and sellers now than most credit /debit card providers. People moan they are expensive but they are no worse than any of the banks in terms of costs for accepting payments.
Mr Lobster Posted October 6, 2010 Posted October 6, 2010 You must be using a different PayPal to me then... As long as you have a tracking number and can prove the item was despatched PayPal will refund sellers if the item is lost - I have actually had this a couple of times now - item has gone missing but because it has been tracked then PayPal have refunded seller and buyer. Try getting any bank to do that. That said, its incredibly rare for anything sent 'Signed For' to get lost. I'm no great fan of PayPal tbh, but ebay and PayPal are no where near as bad as they are sometimes made out to be.
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