Many reasons NOT to buy a discovery 2. Broken again.

[warninglight]

My first D2 used to do the same, graphite powder helps, the other thing I found was to give the key a good rattle, remove it, and wait for the noise as the tumblers spring back to where they should be, then try again. It's caused by gunk inside the barrel, and from memory wd-40 etc make it worse.

https://landroverforums.com/forum/discovery-ii-18/ignition-lock-fix-35422/

[Spiny Norman]

One of my K11 Micras did the same, to the extent that for a few days I had to park it with the key in the ignition and a woolly hat casually draped over the steering wheel so people couldn't see!
Cured it by squirting lots of electrical contact cleaner down the slot, then used clock oil (3 in 1 would probably do but never WD40) on the key, stick it in, pull it out, wipe the crud off it over and over (OOO-ERRR missus!!) until it comes out clean and it was no bother after that.

[sutty2006]

I payed a man to remove the headlining, fix all the water leaks and refit a new headlining. 
 

 

there were a few leaks, front sunroof had a loose bolt that the riv nut was spinning. The sunroof was removed. I repaired the riv nut for him the truckers way and it was resealed and refitted. 

 

there was a leak from the front nearside roof channel drain, that’d been sealed. And the rear of the roof has a bung for an additional aerial which was loose. The rear sunroof and roof rails were loose, all retightened. 
 

 

the new headlining was refitted, and the interior lights upgraded while it was there. 
 

 

[N Dentressangle]

That seems very sensible. Horrible job I would imagine.

Who did you use and how much?

[sutty2006]

On 14/01/2024 at 10:08, N Dentressangle said:

That seems very sensible. Horrible job I would imagine.

Who did you use and how much?

MSJ headliners of Yorkshire. Lovely bloke and top job. I payed £300 but I think his prices have increased slightly in the new year. Wasn’t worth me wrestling with it and he did a fantastic job. 

[N Dentressangle]

Nice one. Worth paying for a job like that, where your first go is also your last, and is likely to be pretty shabby

[sutty2006]

40 minutes ago, N Dentressangle said:

Nice one. Worth paying for a job like that, where your first go is also your last, and is likely to be pretty shabby

Exactly. It would have taken me all day and a lot of swearing, cups of strong coffee to get it out. Then strip the front sunroof out and reseal, plus all the other little leaks there were. Etc etc

[sutty2006]

Noticed the other day that the power steering fluid was going down. Couldn’t see any leaks. The reason? Some c**ts swapped the cap over with the ACE cap.

So it’s the ACE system that’s leaking.. great. If these run out of fluid the pump sets on fire. Lovely!

Here’s the leak 

 

 

bottom pipe connection is leaking only when engine is running though.

 

Bottom pipe is rusty but hopefully not leaking itself. I’ll be replacing the seal in the block on Thursday. 

[sutty2006]

My worst fears hit me yesterday. The pipe is split. it’s also stuck in the valve block, which is going to take some getting out without damaging the block.

 

ordered two new metal pipes, pointless doing one and not the other as it looks like it’s leaking too. This job is going to cost me just over £250 so far and that’s doing it myself. 
 

 

[N Dentressangle]

I'm guessing this is why people often remove the ACE system?

[sutty2006]

11 hours ago, N Dentressangle said:

I'm guessing this is why people often remove the ACE system?

Yes. They leak for fun. Which is a pain. The high / low pressure pipes come in 4 sections which if bought completely will set you back 500, then there’s the two to the front ram and two to the back so another 500. Then the seals are 20 quid a throw……. Very expensive system to keep on top of. Normal roll bar system and the pulley/belt system will cost 250 second hand. So yeah, a cheaper version. Won’t handle as good though. 

[jakebullet]

Top quality* shitpart too. Hate to guess how much genuine is.

[straightSix]

4 hours ago, sutty2006 said:

Yes. They leak for fun. Which is a pain. The high / low pressure pipes come in 4 sections which if bought completely will set you back 500, then there’s the two to the front ram and two to the back so another 500. Then the seals are 20 quid a throw……. Very expensive system to keep on top of. Normal roll bar system and the pulley/belt system will cost 250 second hand. So yeah, a cheaper version. Won’t handle as good though. 

I'd say worth keeping it you can though. Driving mine and my friends back to back, mine converted to springs and his still with ACE, his drove so much better 

[sutty2006]

7 minutes ago, jakebullet said:

Top quality* shitpart too. Hate to guess how much genuine is.

Yeah, not keen to be honest, but they seam to be the only company selling the pipes. These are going to get a liberal dose of waxoil once fitted and operational 

[sutty2006]

This is the current scene of destruction. One pipe off, one to go. 
 

 

[sutty2006]

Pipes took some getting out. Luckily I made two tools for the assistance of the extraction process. First was made from 3mm side guard lamp bracket, which bent immediately. The second was made from an 8mm thick shift rod out of a truck gearbox. That one didn’t mess about.

 

the seals were extracted by running an m10 bolt into it and using the same extraction tool to remove. 

[sutty2006]

Well. It’s temporarily fixed. 
 

Both high/low pipes have been changed, however the front ram pipes are leaking. Ok, not as much as the others were, but still leaking. Can’t afford to replace them so it’ll have to leak ever so slightly until I can. 
 

 

gave the new pipes some temp bitumen coating until I can do the others. 

[sutty2006]

Today I’ve collected some of my tools from work. I’ve left, start a new job on Tuesday. This wouldn’t have gone in the Audi. The rest will need to go in a van. 
 

 

 

[N Dentressangle]

A Disco is just a useful thing to have. Carries all sorts of shite, any size, any weight. And if it's too big for inside, it'll tow a stupidly large and heavy trailer.

[Jenson Velcro]

Good luck with the new job.

Are you going to do similar work or something new?

[sutty2006]

I’ve not used the disco since last weekend. Today went to get two new tyres for the rear. Then went up to my unit to pick some stuff up. From my unit I went to a Landrover parts shop about 10 miles away to pick up another ball joint for the front. While I was discussing the impending doom of owning a Landrover with the shop owner, I noticed a dark pool under the rear of the disco. Knowing full well that MANY landrovers park here, it must be someone else from earlier. Only to my disappointment as I walked back to it that the rear of the disco was covered top to bottom in fuel. And it was pouring out with the engine running. Pipe must have ruptured on my way from my unit to the shop, as it was dry when I left. 
 

 

 

unfortunate? Yes. Rang the AA, who turned up 15 minutes later. The shop owner, fluent in discovery ailments said it’ll be the fuel pipe from tank to filter. And sold me the pipe. AA man didn’t want to drop the tank in the car park, which is FULL, so a bloke turned up and offered to replace it in the workshop on Sunday. Took the big yellow taxi home. 

[sutty2006]

And last week I had a puncture 

 

 

[sutty2006]

Finally, it’s now unbroken. 
 

id have never changed this ball joint on my driveway. Took it to a mate who owns his own garage who had to borrow a porta-press to get the old ball joint out. 
 

 

jobs remaining on the list..

- rear trailing arm bushes (to chassis)

- engine service

- transmission service 

- diff oil services. 
 

hopefully no other jobs crop up in the meantime 

[grogee]

33 minutes ago, sutty2006 said:

Finally, it’s now unbroken. 
 

id have never changed this ball joint on my driveway. Took it to a mate who owns his own garage who had to borrow a porta-press to get the old ball joint out. 
 

 

jobs remaining on the list..

- rear trailing arm bushes (to chassis)

- engine service

- transmission service 

- diff oil services. 
 

hopefully no other jobs crop up in the meantime 

Good work. I'll be buying shares in LR parts suppliers. And you're the reason petrol prices are up - you'll need about 15 litres of oil for that lot! 

[N Dentressangle]

I occasionally have bad thoughts about upgrading my D1 300TDI for a more civilised D2 or D3.

And then I'm reminded of why my basic old tractor is so appealing, esp compared to the ruinously awful D3 😉

Still, balljoints and fuel pipes aren't too bad - keep fixing! 👍

[sutty2006]

Yeah it’s all just running costs now. I can’t afford anything better now. And for some reason these D2s are holding better money than newer D3s. 

[sutty2006]

hit a milestone yesterday. It’s taken millions of pounds to get there but it’s done now. Hopefully get it to 200k without too much pain and heartache 

 

[EyesWeldedShut]

5 minutes ago, sutty2006 said:

hit a milestone yesterday. It’s taken millions of pounds to get there but it’s done now. Hopefully get it to 200k without too much pain and heartache 

 

Optimist: he who brims his Discovery-2 fuel tank secure in the knowledge that........

[EyesWeldedShut]

On 26/04/2024 at 06:53, grogee said:

Good work. I'll be buying shares in LR parts suppliers. And you're the reason petrol prices are up - you'll need about 15 litres of oil for that lot! 

I can highly recommend* a certain LR Parts Supplier.
Judging from our recent M6 South in Lancashire experience they are now fitting their own stock into their own lorries.

(Picture taken from a Canberra)

[Agila]

11 minutes ago, EyesWeldedShut said:

I can highly recommend* a certain LR Parts Supplier.
Judging from our recent M6 South in Lancashire experience they are now fitting their own stock into their own lorries.

(Picture taken from a Canberra)

Even carrying Land Rover parts make vehicles break down🤣