STUNO Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 I stopped at the lights on the way home last night and the tanker that stopped behind had the word FODEN about 6" from my rear bumper. It was about 4 years old, going by the reg plate. I thought the Foden name was long gone, does this mean I am wrong?
brammy777 Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 One of these? The last Fodens ever made were these, the Alpha.Out of interest and slightly off topic, I saw a Volvo F88 today! It was going at a megarate on the M3 towards London this morning, I was shocked, to say the least.
wuvvum Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Presumably something the age of an F88 wouldn't have a 56mph limiter on it? A couple of years back on the M4 I passed a DAF 2800 artic which was thundering along at 65 in the middle lane, leaving all the flashy modern restricted trucks choking on its exhaust smoke.
chester drawers Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 ^^^Paccar were still using the brand name up until about that time. It's gone now though.
brammy777 Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 ^^^Paccar were still using the brand name up until about that time. It's gone now though.Yep, and the eagle eyed among you will see that the Alpha uses a cab shared with DAF. Seddon Atkinson also died with a DAF cabbed lorry as their last, I think........
Lankytim Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 One of these? The last Fodens ever made were these, the Alpha.Out of interest and slightly off topic, I saw a Volvo F88 today! It was going at a megarate on the M3 towards London this morning, I was shocked, to say the least.The F88 wasnt a logging truck was it? Theres one privately owned thats still in everyday frontline service, unrestored. Ive seen it a few times, its like a U.K version of the DUEL truck.
brammy777 Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Woah Tim, I think youre spot on there. It was definitely hitched to a logging trailer. Know anymore about it?
Cavcraft Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 ^^^Paccar were still using the brand name up until about that time. It's gone now though.Paccar were some American parts company weren't they?I also seem to recall Sed Atk died when they were bought out by those shitehawks Iveco.God knows why anyone would buy one instead of an Iveco when they were the same truck with a different badge, and bearing in mind Ivecos are absolute wank.Any British truck makers left now? ERF got flogged off to MAN, Foden and Sed Atk long gone.
warren t claim Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 ^^^Paccar were still using the brand name up until about that time. It's gone now though.Paccar were some American parts company weren't they?I also seem to recall Sed Atk died when they were bought out by those shitehawks Iveco.God knows why anyone would buy one instead of an Iveco when they were the same truck with a different badge, and bearing in mind Ivecos are absolute wank.Any British truck makers left now? ERF got flogged off to MAN, Foden and Sed Atk long gone.None left I'm afraid.Sudden Accident is now just a specialist version of IVECO.Foden died a few years back which is a shame as they made good tippers.ERF ended up as a badge engineered MAN just to keep their existing fleet buyers happy. A sort of Triumph Acclaim of the truck world.Bedford turned into AWD which is a shame because the only reason DAF and Iveco dominate the market is because of the halo effect of their Leyland and Ford ancestory.Oh, and in the truck world Iveco Stands for:ItVibatesEverythingComesOff
Vin Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 The F88 with logging trailer has popped up a few times in C&VC, usually in a 'soldiering on' type feature, the title of which I forget at the mo. Has a blue and red cab I think. It might even be in the current issue, I don't have it to hand as I am sat in a Darlington hotel room.....Did notice that after ERF & Foden disappeared, Hino seem to have taken their place in the eight leg tipper market.
Cavcraft Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 [quote name="chester drawersNone left I'm afraid. Sudden Accident is now just a specialist version of IVECO. Oh' date=' and in the truck world Iveco Stands for:ItVibatesEverythingComesOff [/quote]
brammy777 Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Leyland still technically makes lorries, but in a weird and twisted sort of way, the plant in which all RHD DAFs are made is called Leyland Trucks.Doesnt Dennis still exist at all?
Inspector Morose Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Foden produced some uber shite buses too like this beauty powered by their fab twostroke diesel:The last bus produced was the NC, a market tester in collaboration with the coachbuilder Northern Counties. Only seven were built and the project was cancelled when foden was taken over.
warren t claim Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Leyland still technically makes lorries, but in a weird and twisted sort of way, the plant in which all RHD DAFs are made is called Leyland Trucks.Doesnt Dennis still exist at all?BMC still exist in the HGV world!I believe ERF imported a few and re badged them. The City Rover of trucks!
brammy777 Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 They literally were, ERF stood for Edwin Richard.............. Use your imagination
Inspector Morose Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Doesnt Dennis still exist at all?In an equally twisted kind of way, at least in the bus world anyway. Originally part of the Hestair group that included Duple, they had a bout of independence then were sold again to the Mayflower group, combined with Plaxton, Northern Counties and Alexander in this country (plus a few others abroad) to form Transbus international. This then folded a few years back and the bus side was bought from the receivers and renamed again to Alexander Dennis, the money partly coming from Brian Souter of Stagecoach fame.
Inspector Morose Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Im sure ERF and Foden were relatedThe story goes that the Foden family were totally committed to steam as the propulsion method for their lorries apart from Edwin who believed diesel was the future. Cue one family feud and Edwin moves down the road to produce his diesel lorries using his initials as the name for his product.
Inspector Morose Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Do they still make fire engines?I think so but that part of Dennis, along with the bin lorry producing bit is owned by someone else.
warren t claim Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Im sure ERF and Foden were relatedThe story goes that the Foden family were totally committed to steam as the propulsion method for their lorries apart from Edwin who believed diesel was the future. Cue one family feud and Edwin moves down the road to produce his diesel lorries using his initials as the name for his product.Whenever the MacO'Dougal family bring their fair (and 37 shoeless, 8 year old chain smoking children) to town I'm always surprised how many Foden's are still doing sterling service on the showman scene, in fact they have a about a 90% Pikey Penertration figure.(edited for extra pikey hatred content)
brammy777 Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Yeh the Circus folk who dwell in Hook have a fleet of around 10 Alphas, along with about the same amount of older ERFs. Is it just me or do ERFs survive alot longer in frontline service?
warren t claim Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Yeh the Circus folk who dwell in Hook have a fleet of around 10 Alphas, along with about the same amount of older ERFs. Is it just me or do ERFs survive alot longer in frontline service?They must run better on red diesel than the equivalant Scania....
Justin Case Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Yeh the Circus folk who dwell in Hook have a fleet of around 10 Alphas, along with about the same amount of older ERFs. Is it just me or do ERFs survive alot longer in frontline service?Yes they do seem to, I passed an immaculate W reg ERF from a local haulage firm at lunchtime and the local scrapyard, (process scrap rather than old cars,) run a fleet of ERFs no later than R reg. Anyway among these: http://geoffsclassiccars.fotopic.net/c1738384.htmlthere are a few immaculate ERFs and a Foden in service with a local showman. Check out the B series ERF with generator body on the back, the engineering on some of these conversions is quite impressive.
Cavcraft Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Same round here when the fair comes to town. Pat Collins' fairs always have an array of exceptionally tidy old ERFs.Castrol had a really old fleet a few years back too, they ahd some trucks which only got used a handful of times per year on specialist jobs and although really old they were absolutely mint inside and out.Can we haz a truck appreciation thread or tag onto this one? I want to find some pics of Blowers of Stretton/Shrewsbury trucks. I met the old boy who owned them a while back and he was doing up a couple of Foden tippers in his garage and had made a page in the Foden calendar. Cracking bloke who was happily crafting new wooden frame parts for one of them and he must have been in his eighties at the time.
Lankytim Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Heres my Lovely old ERF EC11.. I was using it up until around 8 months ago or so when the haulier I worked for went bust (no idea why LOL) It was sold to another local haulier but I think its now been broken up. (YES I RIPPED THE FRONT SPOILER OFF) Heres some HGV shite.
shite_meister Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 I work in the Parts dept of a truck garage that has the DAF/Renault Trucks/LDV/Fiat Commercial franchise amongst others, being in Jersey we have the P30 class of truck that cannot be over a certain width (small Island roads innit) which means we don't see the big stuff here and I've not seen a Foden in the workshop, its great when you have to look up bits for a truck thats been messed about with and changed to suit local road traffic laws Volvo Trucks acquired Renault Trucks in a merger in about 2001 and some DAFs had the same bodywork as Renaults/Volvos so its all a bit of a big gangbang with different makers.
warren t claim Posted February 9, 2010 Posted February 9, 2010 Renault Magnum's use American Mack engines I believe.
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