Cheeky f***er used car dealer

[Isaac Hunt]

18 hours ago, HarmonicCheeseburger said:

We know who supplied the ramps then : 

 

 

9 hours ago, barefoot said:

I've not been to a dealers in many, many years. But I am interested in buying another car, the likes of which I have never driven. On Monday morning, I am planning to visit a dealer who has one in stock, to take a test drive. It's about four or five times what I want to pay, so I have no intention of buying it, but if I don't take advantage of chap, I'll find myself buying totally blind. Am I wrong to do this?

There is a risk  (to you) that you really might really like it.  Then you start to work out how you might be able to fund it.  Temptation is the word and that is what PCP etc is all about.  I went for a test drive in the Jag XE once.  Having been in X-Types for 14 years (several, I liked them) I thought i’ll try the XE even though I could not warm to it.  Didn’t do anything for me and I hated that circular gear selector. So when the sales guy said can you see yourself in this I said ‘actually no, I am sorry, i’ve Just wasted your time’. At least he knew the score

[sierraman]

They work on the assumption your life isn’t complete unless you’ve got a Jaguar XE. A mate of mine has one, nice enough car but it’s nothing to write home about. You could literally be sat in anything inside. I think that’s why they’re up shit creek now, it’s got no identity whatsoever, as a brand Jaguar is absolutely meaningless. Far cry from when they were something a bit special. 

[Isaac Hunt]

4 minutes ago, sierraman said:

They work on the assumption your life isn’t complete unless you’ve got a Jaguar XE. A mate of mine has one, nice enough car but it’s nothing to write home about. You could literally be sat in anything inside. I think that’s why they’re up shit creek now, it’s got no identity whatsoever, as a brand Jaguar is absolutely meaningless. Far cry from when they were something a bit special. 

Agree.  The XJ that’s ended in 2009 ish, proper distinctive Jag.  Then the current XJ, fekkin awful, looks like a Chrysler Druggy thing.  The XF and XE are so similar.  All have lost their Jaggyness and the XE looks like a Mazda.   The new facelift is an improvement but still not enough.  

[inconsistant]

It’s a shame, Jaguar had a strong and distinct design language, now they’re using everyone else’s its no surprise Jags look like Mazdas, Kias, Mondeos. I got a lift in a FPace the other day and it felt so unspecial and utilitarian I was completely underwhelmed. Didn’t ferl like I was in a Jag at all. Our £800 V70 feels a lot more special.

[HillmanImp]

They're nice inside the new Jags. They feel very well put together. They might be flimsy as shit in reality though. We looked at some and Mrs Imp liked them but they were more than we wanted to pay for a good one. 

So we got a mazda 6 which is indistinguishable to an XF for a non car person. 

 

[Sir Snipes]

1 hour ago, sierraman said:

They work on the assumption your life isn’t complete unless you’ve got a Jaguar XE. A mate of mine has one, nice enough car but it’s nothing to write home about. You could literally be sat in anything inside. I think that’s why they’re up shit creek now, it’s got no identity whatsoever, as a brand Jaguar is absolutely meaningless. Far cry from when they were something a bit special. 

I think I could apply that to literally every manufacturer nowadays.

[barefoot]

1 hour ago, Isaac Hunt said:

There is a risk  (to you) that you really might really like it.  

Ta, but I fucking doubt it,

It's a one litre Daihatsu. I'm just worried that, because I've not driven anything less than 1600 in the last 20 years, a poxy little 3 pot through a Bader box might make me come over all queer if I were to buy one without having a go first. I know that'd be all right by you lot, because I could flog it here at a cheery loss. However, that's not going to happen, and my rationale for wasting the poor salesman's time is that he won't be doing much else on a Monday morning. And he might even enjoy getting out of the showroom to spend twenty odd minutes with an entertaining old cove such as myself.

[Luxxo Waftybarger]

2 hours ago, sierraman said:

I think that’s a Dutch rudder. 

Dutch oven? You pay good money for one of those.

[MikeR]

does he charge for parking as well ?

[sierraman]

53 minutes ago, Luxxo Waftybarger said:

Dutch oven? You pay good money for one of those.

Dutch oven is farting under the covers then tickling the other party to make them breathe it in no? 

[UltraWomble]

Once sacked off a bike from Youles as they wanted to charge a "Document fee" effectively to organise the V5 in my name and print out a receipt.

Fuck that shit right off.

[djoptix]

27 minutes ago, sierraman said:

Dutch oven is farting under the covers then tickling the other party to make them breathe it in no? 

Unrelated, but Google "Montana musket loader"... 

[strangeangel]

On 1/30/2020 at 7:07 PM, Peter C said:

I’ve asked him for a link to the ad.

 

 

Any luck?

 

[face]

1 hour ago, sierraman said:

Dutch oven is farting under the covers then tickling the other party to make them breathe it in no? 

Guff and then holding their head under the covers.
 

Been too long since I used the word ‘guff’. Hello again old friend.

[Peter C]

7 hours ago, strangeangel said:

 

Any luck?

 

See my update towards the bottom of page 2.

[Isaac Hunt]

10 hours ago, UltraWomble said:

Once sacked off a bike from Youles as they wanted to charge a "Document fee" effectively to organise the V5 in my name and print out a receipt.

Fuck that shit right off.

My lad bought a car from one of those supermarkets.  They had an optional fee for ‘undertaking a cherished Reg transfer’  I said does that fee include the DVLA £80 fee....... No Sir, just £100 for completing the paperwork.  So, £100 for what I can do for FREE.  Yes Sir.  Do you charge for lending me your Bic Biro so I can put my information on the form without you having to ask me for the information or is the Biro for Brand New Customers Only.

if I pass you my watch, can you tell me the time.

He had the car, and said NO to all of the extra’s including the overpriced snake polish.  

To be fair, the guy dealing with us soon realised, we’ve come for the car not the buying experience.  If you want to give us a free coffee fine, but if not, feck it, i’ve got my flask in the car and couldn’t give a feck.  So realising he wasn’t going to get any ‘add ons’ he rattled through the forms ticking all the NO boxes.

As a buyer, you just gotta be clear what you want.  If it isn’t what you want you don’t have to pay for it.

I’m not sure I would pay to view though.  It would have to be a rare spec and the seller would have to answer a barrage of qualification questions first from, two keys, do they both work, are they original or Tony Timpson Copies that only open the door through to brand of tyre on all four corners.  I asked the latter before arranging the view (car wasn’t a shitter) I don’t know Sir...........Can you go out to the compound and look for me then.  He called back, at which point I learned that only one tyre was a ditch finder.  When he had answered all the questions, we drove 150 Miles for the ‘view’.  I said to my lad, if it ain’t right, be prepared to walk away.

We were presented with exactly what we expected.  Test drive all good, bought it.

He’s just about worn the ditchfinder out, so with two new tyres we will be on ‘same brand all four corners’  This model car, owners tend to find their hard on tyres.....

 

[PiperCub]

Would be a hard 'No' from me too. While I sympathise that in that game you have more than your share of knuckleheads, timewasters, test pilots and morons to deal with, this is going a bit far if you are dealing at the lower end of the market. This will simply turn even genuine people off as it does sound pretty scammy and it makes it look like you are trying to muscle/railroad people into buying.  

[strangeangel]

On 1/31/2020 at 4:48 PM, Peter C said:

Just found out that there's no link to the dealer's ad, apparently BIL was tipped off about the E39 by a friend and BIL got the contact details for the trader via Auto Trader. 

 

Oh well. Cool story anyway.

 

[vonmon]

He's a cnut but January is actual a good month for used sales.

[Prote]

Seen lots of "admin fees" on cars when I was looking earlier this year, and I avoided them all. The old established car sales places don't seem request that around here, just the new chimps setting up their businesses. The old car guys I go to just hand you the keys and disappear into their portacabins.

 

 

[Steve79]

On 1/31/2020 at 8:50 PM, barefoot said:

Ta, but I fucking doubt it,

It's a one litre Daihatsu. I'm just worried that, because I've not driven anything less than 1600 in the last 20 years, a poxy little 3 pot through a Bader box might make me come over all queer if I were to buy one without having a go first. I know that'd be all right by you lot, because I could flog it here at a cheery loss. However, that's not going to happen, and my rationale for wasting the poor salesman's time is that he won't be doing much else on a Monday morning. And he might even enjoy getting out of the showroom to spend twenty odd minutes with an entertaining old cove such as myself.

If that's a Daihatsu Charade. Then they are brilliant. MotherSteve79 has had her 53plate since 6mths old and has put over 100k on it. I had an identical one for a year and did 15k in it. They weigh feck all and the 3-pot has vvt and revs and pulls well. 85mph on motorway no problem.

Ok they were manual boxes but can imagine the auto charade (if thats what we're talking about) would be that bad. Shame its not the £30 tax on the auto's though.