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Did a bit of tinkering today

well more like faffing around with the seat for 20 minutes

Ah yes, time to access the battery......now on a normal car that doesn't think it's an egg it's in a sensible place, like in the boot or under the bonnet

citroen though.......well they have to be different

and for added barrels of laughs, this is a 2005, so it has the torx bolts holding it down which is fine

until they've been accessed more than twice then they round off and make life a pain


hmmmmm i was given this very cheap looking socket set, it did the job though


and this piece is a total life saver, it really does make life a million times easy as the allen key like tool citroen give you is absolutely awful

came with the car, i dread to think how much it cost from halfords


once the bolts are all removed

it's time to slide the seat all the way back, remove the head rest and tilt the backrest backwards

then......tilt the entire seat forward

exposing a 9 year old halfords battery which somehow isn't completely dead

but i want to replace it before winter


now it's time to close all the doors and set a stopwatch for 3 minutes to let everything shut down so it doesn't act french

mind you this is a very french thing to have to do

once the BSI clicks off, and i waited a bit longer just to be safe it's time to remove the terminals

of course following all instructions i could find exactly to avoid issues

I must admit, these terminals are absolutely excellent!

makes it so much easier than unbolting the traditional style ones and messing about for ages


of course, now it's time to remove the battery

starting with the clamp

surprisingly easy tbh, nothing broke and it came straight off without getting stuck on anything which is nice!

however, removing the battery

now that's a fucking pain

being french the battery is almost the exact same size as the place it sits

so that was some fun and games trying to get the damn thing out and the seat tilts forward just far enough to make getting the battery out that little bit more awkward


after a good few minutes of wrestling i managed to get the battery out which is nice

then i was greeted with this mess

nice to see an old pound coin too, just shows how long all that has been there for


as i am a complete doofus and got distracted by a neighbour coming to talk to me (word of advice, if you see me working don't come and talk to me as i have no self control and will talk for hours instead of working)

and i forgot to take photos of the install of the new battery

it's pretty much the same as the removal process

of course it's a complete pain to get the new battery in place, it would just not go in without tons of fiddling

such as moving the leads and the vent tube while holding a heavy battery with one hand which is always good fun

then waiting for a good while after connecting it before turning on the sidelights......which greeted me with a nice "thunk"

then turning on the ignition, waiting 10 seconds then turning it off and removing the key

then testing the remote locking before finally starting the engine

and setting the clock and turning auto lock back on

only pic i have of the new battery, it's a fair bit more powerful than the old one


i'll get some better pics tomorrow of how snug the fit is, i need to make a quick repair to one of the seat bolts as it has somehow broken itself and won't screw down

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I have absolutely no doubts this won't fix the cold starting fun i tend to have

at least i'll have the power to do some mega cranking now

that seat design is awful absolutely awful in every single way known to man

i literally cannot express enough much i don't want to see those bastard bolts again

but i will, as i have to fix one that has somehow broken itself


but in a way i love these 2000s PSA cars, i don't know what it is about them but they're absolutely lovely and well worth the effort

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Ah French van shaped objects, always a journey of mystery and intrigue.

The first vivaro I bought was being sold by a dealer up in Inverness, it was under a pile of snow and the battery was dead. The dealer had no idea where it was and asked me back in an hour so he could jump start it. Went off for lunch and came back and saw him still scratching his head. Had to Google it for him, and found it was under the passenger floor with a rubber mat on top. Actually a very sensible and useful place but no indication to the layman of it being there.

I'm surprised that the battery is enclosed in the passenger space like that. When building campervans I was told never to have the second battery inside the vehicle as they emit hydrogen fumes when charged hard, which can be quite unpleasant. I note yours has a vent tube on the side though so that's a relief.

It's French. Make sure it doesn't eject it's window wipers tomorrow in protest that you haven't plugged it back in using a stopwatch to time it.

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Typically french to have really well designed stuff, but either really hard to access or no indication of it's location at all

I have a feeling an awful lot of picassos don't have the venting tube connected, and most likely the cheapest battery out there

i must admit it does seem to crank over an awful lot faster now which is very nice indeed

i did actually use a stop watch to try and time it as exact as possible


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sort of refurbished a single wheel trim today

took absolutely ages

as you can see this one looks extremely dull and knackered

however, over the weekend i had a good conversation with someone who has a huge collection of trims, as you can tell i am a very interesting person

anyway he reccomended using brasso, so i thought i'd give it a shot


to give you more of an idea

this is after working on it a bit

not sure why it's just the one that;s been so badly affected

i seem to recall it suddenly started looking like that over winter, so i suspect it's a huge salt coating or something


this took absolutely ages to do

i'm in pain, i can barely walk from all the squatting


for the most part it's done, i do need to do a tiny bit more in the crevices but i'm mostly happy with the outcome


it does seem to have it's shine back and really does make the car look an awful lot better

the issue with this car is before i owned it, the car wasn't washed at all in absolutely years, which is some ways is a blessing as theres very litle swirling in the paint

as i say i will get all the little nooks and crannies done at some point

but look how shiny it is!


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as can be seen in this photo

the rear passenger side trim does need a little bit of touching up on some scratches (which i didn't do btw!)


i do have some "audi aluminium silver" which is mostly a close match, i reckon if i touch it up then give it a scrub with brasso it will remove the excess and only cover the scratches

but in some more exciting news

this is the list of stuff that needs doing:

bonnet repacing due to dent - will be happening at the end of the month

brake lines - again end of month

front tyres - end of month, will be replacing all 4 so 2 7mm pirelli's will be for sale very cheaply.

that's it, then the car is pretty much finished, and i can say for once theres almost nothing wrong with it

then i will enjoy it for around 8 months before moving it on to a new home


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55 minutes ago, Noel Tidybeard said:

if you have 2 Pirellis with 7mm why are you buying 4 tyres?

new tyres are only 1-2mm deeper

always do this, i like to experiment with different tyres and for the full experience i replace all 4

i'll be trying michelin crossclimate +'s next and i'm reluctant to mix all seasons and summers

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Yes i could do, and it's what i'll most likely end up doing

however i want to see how decent i can get these ones first

I've been toying with the thought of painting the "citroen" writing on the trims black so they stand out a bit, not sure what to do about that yet

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On 9/18/2020 at 3:39 PM, maxxo said:

then i will enjoy it for around 8 months before moving it on to a new home


How come you’re getting rid of it so soon? If it were my car, I’d want to keep it a bit longer after putting so much money and effort into restoring it.

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5 minutes ago, Mr Laurence said:

How come you’re getting rid of it so soon? If it were my car, I’d want to keep it a bit longer after putting so much money and effort into restoring it.

I want a hydraulic citroen before they either all disapear/go up in value or get stuck with a 2008 onwards C5

plus i'm starting to fancy a change

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8 minutes ago, maxxo said:

i say hydraulic citroen

i just have a huge want for a mk1 c5 estate, so i might as well buy one before the last of them vanish

I don’t think that I’m that brave! Very interesting cars, and they’ll never be as cheap as they are now.  I’ll keep my eyes peeled for good ones for you though

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3 minutes ago, Mr Laurence said:

I don’t think that I’m that brave! Very interesting cars, and they’ll never be as cheap as they are now.  I’ll keep my eyes peeled for good ones for you though

I'll be looking around june next year, that's when the insurance policy on the picasso expires and it seems more logical to get one then

basically a 2.0 hdi 110 or a 2.2 hdi auto, it must be an auto

ideally an exclusive too.....more likely to have been looked after

i'm either very brave or very stupid

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quick battery update

still early days, but at the moment it seems to be cranking over like a petrol and starting both hot and cold instantly

which is nice!

this is interesting, as the old battery still did always start (occasional software bug though) so it must have just been weak

i was surprised the old halfords one made it through the winter

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Time to say goodbye to the chance of a siezed spare wheel carrier bolt!

yes i am going to absolutely cover the bolt in this stuff

might as well properly paint the carrier at the same time and wrap the spare wheel in something protective


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6 minutes ago, loserone said:

You could take the trim off before you work on it?

shhhhhh don't tell me

what i should have done is brought it inside so i could work on it on a table

but no i like to make life hard for myself, so i either squatted or laid down on the pavement scrubbing it

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