Multiple engine configurations in one model

[Snipes]

Rover 75

 

Petrol 4 cyl, 4 cyl Turbo, V6 FWD

 

Diesel 4 cyl FWD

 

Petrol V8 RWD

 

I think re-engineering a FWD car for a low volume RWD variant seems madness.

What they did was take essentially the RWD E36 3-series, make it FWD, then when it came to the V8 they totally replaced the z-axle rear for a bespoke, RWD trailing-arm set up.

[somewhatfoolish]

Don’t remember the defender having an in-line six unless you mean the Isuzu unit the Aussie ones have or the IOE in the series 3 ( not a feckin defender !!!!)

IIRC seth efrica built their own with a 2.8 BMW 6.

 

Morgan

 

Various Ford four cylinders from sidevalve to Zetec, Fiat twin cam, Rover V8, Jag V6 and probably lots of others.

Rover T series turbo, or have I imagined that one?

Standard/Triumph/Ferguson four

[Peter C]

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Maestro

• 1275 A series carb
• 1600 R series su carb
• 1600 R series weber carbs
• 1600 S series su
• 1600 S series weber
• 2000 O series injected
• 2000 turbot O series
• 2000 L series derv
• 2000 L series turbot derv

One configuration then, in-line four.

[Junkman]

If you have to sell your car with more than two to three engine options, you designed a shit car that doesn't properly work with either.

[barefoot]

How about the VW T3 - or T25 bus thing.

 

That came with Petrol 5's in a variety of capacities

Diesel inline 4's

Air & Watercooleld four pot boxers 

And little known 3.0, 3.2 & 3.7 litre Flat sixes; the Oettinger WBX6 and the Porsche B32 

[AMC Rebel]

Ford Sierra

 

1294cc Pinto I4 SOHC

1593cc Pinto I4 SOHC

1796cc Pinto I4 SOHC

1993cc Pinto I4 SOHC

1998cc DOHC I4 DOHC

1598cc CVH I4 CVH

1769cc CVH I4 CVH

1999cc Cologne V6 OHV

2293cc Cologne V6 OHV

2792cc Cologne V6 OHV

2935cc Cologne V6 OHV

5.0 L V8 OHV (South Africa only)

1.8 L 1753cc I4 SOHC Turbodiesel

2.3 L 2304cc I4 OHV Indenor Diesel

 

 

Do we need another for the Cossie?  2.0 inline turbot?

[AMC Rebel]

If you have to sell your car with more than two to three engine options, you designed a shit car that doesn't properly work with either.

 

 

Not for the first time I agree with Junkman.

[Peter C]

If you have to sell your car with more than two to three engine options, you designed a shit car that doesn't properly work with either.

Not entirely true.

 

In the case of the W124, you can have a small diesel or petrol engine suitable for economy minded drivers, smooth six pots for those that enjoy driving and a V8 model for rich petrolheads who crave speed. All get to enjoy a well designed car.

 

Nothing wrong with that.

[Cleon-Fonte]

What they did was take essentially the RWD E36 3-series, make it FWD, then when it came to the V8 they totally replaced the z-axle rear for a bespoke, RWD trailing-arm set up.

 

The 75 has nothing to do with the E36.

[Snipes]

The 75 has nothing to do with the E36.

The chassis look very similar, almost identical identical I'd say.

[Guest Hooli]

Rover 75

 

Petrol 4 cyl, 4 cyl Turbo, V6 FWD

 

Diesel 4 cyl FWD

 

Petrol V8 RWD

 

I think re-engineering a FWD car for a low volume RWD variant seems madness.

 

 

If only they'd survived long enough to add the Petrol Supercharged V8 RWD to that list.

 

I know Zeus do them now, but they'd have been a hell of a flagship model from the factory.

[Cleon-Fonte]

Similar they may have been but the 75 sits on its own unique platform, as the original plan to adapt the 5-series platform for FWD had proved prohibitively expensive. The only major contribution from BMW is a modified version of the E46's rear suspension.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

Morgan

Various Ford four cylinders from sidevalve to Zetec, Fiat twin cam, Rover V8, Jag V6 and probably lots of others.

Rover T series turbo, or have I imagined that one?

Don't later Plus 8s have a BMW lump , still a petrol V8 though, I also remember Rover 820 engined Plus 4s. What do the current 4 pots use?

 

Edited to add, there's not one it's called the Roadster and comes with a 3.7 Ford Cyclone V6. Some Septic Transit engine presumably.

[Junkman]

Not entirely true.

 

In the case of the W124, you can have a small diesel or petrol engine suitable for economy minded drivers, smooth six pots for those that enjoy driving and a V8 model for rich petrolheads who crave speed. All get to enjoy a well designed car.

 

Nothing wrong with that.

 

Everything is wrong with a W124. It perfectly illustrates my point.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

What about the W210?  

 

4,6,V6,V8 petrol plus the 4,5,6 cylinder diesels....

Does the Brabus eV12 count.

[mercrocker]

Probably!   I was thinking actual showroom fodder which ruled out the Capri for me (otherwise Perana V8 in addition to I4,V4,V6)  

 

If we get really techy we could add wet-liner 4 pot to the Morgan stable (Vanguard engined Plus 4) .....

[Snipes]

Similar they may have been but the 75 sits on its own unique platform, as the original plan to adapt the 5-series platform for FWD had proved prohibitively expensive. The only major contribution from BMW is a modified version of the E46's rear suspension.

Not sure how much harder it would have been to use the 5-series arrangement given what they ended up with looks exactly the same as a 3.

[I_am_Diesel]

Don't forget that the Austin Maxi had a diesel engine variant.

 

*Crawls back under stone

[Steve79]

Do we need another for the Cossie? 2.0 inline turbot?

Added

1998cc DOHC I4 Cosworth Turbo

 

Might as well add these as well

2301cc Lima SOHC Turbo - Merkur XR4Ti

2994cc Essex V6 - South African Sierra XR6 and 3.0RS

[pshome]

Now tell me, which cars had only one single engine option throughout their lifetime?

[Heidel_Kakao]

Now tell me, which cars had only one single engine option throughout their lifetime?

NSU RO80

[Peter C]

RX-8

[twosmoke300]

Didn’t they have two power options tho ?

[Snipes]

 

In Japan the A70 Supra had a properly contrived engine line-up. They were all straight 6, DOHC 24v affairs but had different outputs and with/without Turbos;

 

2.0 Non Turbo 2G-GE 150bhp

2.0 Twin Turbo 2G-GTE 200bhp

3.0 Non-Turbo 7M-GE 200ish bhp

3.0 Single Turbo 7M-GTE 220ish bhp

2.5 Twin Turbo vvti 1JZ-GTE 275bhp (officially, probably a bit more in reality)

 

6 cylinder, 24 valves and DOHC, Twin Turbos. The most contrived way to make 200bhp?

[inconsistant]

Two for the saloon, two for the estate.

Wasn’t there also a 4wd R21? Quadra/Quatra or something?

[cros]

Land Rover Defender

Inline four diesel (NA, turbo and turbo inter cooled)

Inline five turbo diesel

Inline four petrol (NA in two sizes)

Inline six petrol

V8 petrol

Landover Australia added the 'Perentie' 110 which has an Isuzu 3.9 diesel with or without turbo.

Even more worrying was the 2 cylinder 2 stroke Turner diesel that was fitted in the early '50's. Though not a factory offering it featured in some of their publicity and must have spurred them to develop their own 2 litre diesel which is substantially different to the 2.25 and yet another choice. Well, choice might not be the right word.

[LightBulbFun]

im surprised no ones mentioned the FX4 Hackney carriage  I think I count a total of 7 different engine options over the 39 year production run

[jonny69]

Mk1 transit

Essex v4

Cologne v4

Kent

Essex V6

Perkins diesel

York diesel

250 cui Aussie 6

 

You forgot the 400hp GT40 Le Mans V8, no?

 

[cros]

Here's some more multiple engine configurations, one in the front and one in the back

 

Or how about side by side under the seat, Ford's 12 cylinder D series.

[RayMK]

.........and the 2cv Sahara.