Wanted 15/02/18 Renault 30 Project - gone to a safe new home

[Junkman]

There certainly are differences, but not regarding the brakes. They were changed in 1978 or thereabouts.

So from 1975 to 1978, they seem to be the same.

 

Anyway, I compiled a list of compatible discs:

 

RENAULT 7700572631 or 7701467220

Brembo 08.2284.10

Ferodo DDF024

ATE 24011001101

BENDIX 333059B

BRADI 1.4003.5.4

BRECO BS7106

DELPHI BG72

MINTEX MDC1167

QUINTON HAZELL BDC1047

REMSA 6641.10

TEXTAR 98200 0088

TRW DF1003

UNIPART GBD196

 

They are R16 front discs. I just don't know which vintage.

I have a set of new R16 front discs, but they are the older type, so most probably won't work.

Apparently those listed above have provisions for 3 or 4 lug mounting.

[stormee]

Should I call the dealer again with the Renault parts number?

[stormee]

The ATE part is available on Amazon.

[Junkman]

Quite a few of those are available, however, I don't quite trust the cross ref.

If the cross ref is correct, these would be suitable for 3 as well as 4 stud cars.

I'm too thick to imagine how this is supposed to work, but seem to remember

that the discs currently in my R16 were quite swiss cheesised.

 

Once I'm home, I'll check the R16 discs I have.

[stormee]

The number of studs and hole pattern was what concerned me, too. But looking at those many holes in the discs they seem to fit a lot of cars. Amazon sells them as BMW E12 discs, a 5 series of that time has a 5-stud layout. But as you said there must be more cars using these discs.

[Eddie Honda]

Never trust catalogues. Even the manufacturer's one.

 

The R16 disc mentioned looks like this:

 

 

 

A 254mm diameter solid disc.

 

Don't be mislead by the number of fixing holes either. (e.g. DAF car front disc have four fixing holes, even the hubs are for 3 stud wheels.)

 

Easiest way to sort out discs for a car is to take the bloody thing off and get the camera and measuring stick out. Then even if you can't find the exact discs, you can find the nearest to adapt.

[doubleyeller]

Well folks, now that I have obtained some (very rare, extra long) replacement front hoses, I am pleased to report that on Saturday, Bigdan30 is starting work on rebuilding the callipers. Then changing the discs and pads etc for the braking system - front first, as the rear discs are still drawing a "Discontinued/unavailable" from every conceivable potential supplier! I suspect they will end up having to be turned by a machinist!

[Daniel R25]

Hi,

the Renault book of truths PR900 lists the same disks for all renault 30 (apart from the Turbo-d version): 7701467220 Aren't these available? I suppose you have asked...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-St-FERODO-Bremsscheibe-PREMIER-DDF024-1/142514327883?epid=0&hash=item212e84114b:g:xOEAAOSw4P1Zw9gB

Or these, a lot cheaper: https://www.oscaro.com/jeu-de-2-disques-de-frein-avant-ferodo-ddf024-1073289-10018-p


The doors a mate has are the early R14 Type ones. And it looks like it makes more sense to pick them up in France..


daniel
 

[doubleyeller]

Hi,

 

the Renault book of truths PR900 lists the same disks for all renault 30 (apart from the Turbo-d version): 7701467220 Aren't these available? I suppose you have asked...

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-St-FERODO-Bremsscheibe-PREMIER-DDF024-1/142514327883?epid=0&hash=item212e84114b:g:xOEAAOSw4P1Zw9gB

 

Or these, a lot cheaper: https://www.oscaro.com/jeu-de-2-disques-de-frein-avant-ferodo-ddf024-1073289-10018-p

 

 

The doors a mate has are the early R14 Type ones. And it looks like it makes more sense to pick them up in France..

 

 

daniel

 

I'll have a look at those two options - especially the cheaper one, thanks

[stormee]

I'll have a look at those two options - especially the cheaper one, thanks

Did you have a look at Junkman's excellent result of investigations? There are generic and even ATE discs available as it seems, am I wrong?

[D Spares & Tyres]

I have two very good tyres I can donate

 

One is a Michelin so Renault approved, the other is a wing yip

[doubleyeller]

I have two very good tyres I can donate

 

One is a Michelin so Renault approved, the other is a wing yip

 

That's very kind, I have a good set of 4, but I'm going to need one for the spare wheel, so if you're willing to donate these that's great!

Whereabouts are you?

[doubleyeller]

Well, sorry to say that the inclement conditions hampered progress last Saturday (and City were playing at home of course!) work due to progress tomorrow (Saturday) will keep you 'orrible lot infomed!  

[Junkman]

Hi,

 

the Renault book of truths PR900 lists the same disks for all renault 30 (apart from the Turbo-d version): 7701467220 Aren't these available? I suppose you have asked...

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-St-FERODO-Bremsscheibe-PREMIER-DDF024-1/142514327883?epid=0&hash=item212e84114b:g:xOEAAOSw4P1Zw9gB

 

Lochanzahl: 3

 

Hi,

Or these, a lot cheaper: https://www.oscaro.com/jeu-de-2-disques-de-frein-avant-ferodo-ddf024-1073289-10018-p

 

 

Nombre de trous : 3

 

[D Spares & Tyres]

That's very kind, I have a good set of 4, but I'm going to need one for the spare wheel, so if you're willing to donate these that's great!

Whereabouts are you?

Ludlow, Shropshire. I can get them to Stafford if a anybody could relay further

[doubleyeller]

Ludlow, Shropshire. I can get them to Stafford if a anybody could relay further

A kind offer mate - I'm without a car at the moment, so I have literally no way of collecting, but if anybody happens to be doing a Shropshire to Yokshire run, please let me know.......

[D Spares & Tyres]

Well no rush, they are in the barn and not going anywhere!

[Daniel R25]

Yes Junkman,

Lochzahl 3. But have a look at the setup:

https://www.autobrico.com/reparation-entretien-automobile/entretien-voitures-anciennes/renover-les-suspensions-ar-des-renault-20-30/All-Pages.html


It wouldn't suprise me if the disk was Lochzahl 3 and there still were  4 bolts for the wheel... I'll ask my hoarding mates

It looks very much like this will be crushed:
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/renault-30-tx-karosse-gestrahlt-und-leer-r30-v6/763812213-223-4372

I know that nobody on here will listen. There is a life to live. I know of three Renault 30 "projects" that take up precious time and money and yet will never be finished. My humble recommendation is - Run, as fast as you can. Maybe I (and everybody else) just work too much

Daniel

[doubleyeller]

IThere is a life to live. I know of three Renault 30 "projects" that take up precious time and money and yet will never be finished.

Daniel

 

I know of one very specific one here in Yorkshire!

IIRC, there have been half a dozen R30 and a few R20 projects on Autooshite over the years - none of which have ever seen the road again (as far as we know)

 

My R30 is the only one that was ever actually taxed and MOT'd during the life of Autoshite.

 

Chances of it seeing the road again? Probably about 50/50.......the looming MOT exemption being the only thing that drags it up from 0%!

 

Unfortunately the R20/30 models are rare as rocking horse shit for a reason, and there are only a select few of us nutters in the country who work like a bastard all year - and with very limited success - to get the few remaining examples running reliably enough to get them to Bromley pageant once a year. The best attendance I ever saw was 2 x R30 and 2 x R20 - and three of the 4 examples were more filler than metal imo!

 

I don't know of a single car being used as an everyday transport solution, and I suspect that only about half a dozen even see the road on a monthly basis.....

 

Still doing better than the R14 though  

[Parky]

Ebay Spain and Leboncoin might be worth a trawl? I found some front discs fairly easily, rears proving trickier but I haven't tried too hard.

 

Disques Arriere for French searchings, and Discos Traseros for Spanish questing.

 

http://www.ebay.es/itm/FRONT-BRAKE-DISCS-FOR-RENAULT-30-2-6-07-1978-01-1984-2942/111269072968?fits=Car+Make%3ARenault%7CModel%3A30&hash=item19e8275048:g:EBUAAOxyVaBS6x9X

[catsinthewelder]

I'll be driving from Ludlow to t'otherside of Yorkshire before the year is out.  I'm sure I can find space for a couple of tyres in the Disastra.

[flat4alfa]

I don't know of a single car being used as an everyday transport solution

 

They weren't doing very well as an everyday transport solution even when new

 

 

yes, I know it's a 25.

[flat4alfa]

We're going around in circle on these discs.  Have you joined a french forum and asked there?  They will know the answers and likely know of the correct set over any motorfactor/boxshifter on ebay

http://www.forum-auto.com/automobiles-mythiques-exception/youngtimers/sujet392013.htm

[Hertz]

Have you got the exact dimensions of the disc, solid not vented? I have a set in our container, 4 stud in the original Renault box that I'm not sure what they are off (they came with the Alpine 310 so probably quite old, but that's 3 stud). Long shot but if they are the ones you can have them.

[Angrydicky]

I've phoned a couple of potential sources from work. One was NLA, the other reckoned he could order them in but will call me back tomorrow. We'll see...

[Junkman]

We're going around in circle on these discs.  Have you joined a french forum and asked there?  They will know the answers and likely know of the correct set over any motorfactor/boxshifter on ebay

http://www.forum-auto.com/automobiles-mythiques-exception/youngtimers/sujet392013.htm

I did this weeks ago and was considered laughing stock.

 

I also asked around in the Renault fraternity I'm meanwhile part of and it turned out

that many of them had R30s around the turn of the century,

then got rid of them simply for the fact that they couldn't get parts for them.

Mind you, that was 17 years ago and the situation has hardly improved since.

 

Both - the 20 and 30 - failed to attract a huge following and nobody really caters

for the few survivors.

 

I even tried these guys: http://www.nosrenault30.com/

 

All to no avail.

 

It's kind of weird, after doing all kinds of cars bordering obscurity for over 30 years,

I finally found one you really can't get sod all for.

[Parky]

I reckon Renault used the same rear hubs on something else - 25 or Espace maybe.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if their collaboration with Volvo led to some parts sharing too - it could well be that R30 parts aren't listed but Volvo 740's used the same part for example.

 

Otherwise, EBC list them but have no stock - maybe they make them to order?

 

https://ebcbrakesdirect.com/automotive/renault/30/2.7-75-84/11629

 

Final solution might be to contact a custom part maker who can make new ones to spec, for example

 

http://www.bigbrakes4u.co.uk/performance-bespoke-brake-discs/cat_420.html

[beko1987]

Don't we have some lathe-ists on here? Can't the old ones be duplicated and the thickness guessed at?

[Junkman]

I reckon Renault used the same rear hubs on something else - 25 or Espace maybe.

 

 

Yes, the 25 and Espace use the same rear brakes as the late R30.

We are dealing with an early one here.

[Junkman]

Don't we have some lathe-ists on here? Can't the old ones be duplicated and the thickness guessed at?

 

We know the exact measurements. There are even drawings online.