🚨L1's♦️ shenanigans 🍷🚨 All Renault fleet, mostly moderns.

[320touring]

This thread is relevant to my interests!

 

Good effort and nice to see the "day to day" experiences with it, rather than "oooh look at the shiny shiny"

[LostnotFound]

Cheers for the write up on this, I currently have a 60 mile round trip commute so although we're still a couple of grand away from depreciation making it viable they're definitely on their way, if I was planning on keeping my job for a few more years then I would be trying to squeeze the man maths a bit more.

 

I'm looking forward to the charger install, I think our real issue would be we currently only have power in the garage / driveway through a minimum work done extension / mcb and I'm not sure it would be straight forward to install a charger which would increase the costs somewhat.

[loserone]

Another minor update: Charging point installed today, installer was very complementary of 'the electrician''s wiring in the garage and was working from rules of thumb for the install.  I now have a 6mmT+E running down the garage and to the charger, the conduit matches the conduit used elsewhere in the garage, and the rod for the garage's separate TT system has been confirmed to be putting up 42Ohms. (which is almost exactly what 'the electrician' figured out using a Camry battery deemed inadequate for LS400ing and a multi meter).

 

I didn't mention that the clamp for the earth rod was discovered to be snapped in two on Sunday (no idea, suspect frost damage and cheap ebay parts), and that, basically bedridden with norovirus, it's been bodged together with a bit filed out near the crack so it grips the rod better.  A new better quality clamp is on it's way.

 

All of this is fiction, by the way, officer, those working in building control and elsewhere. It's like those threads where people boast of doing 130MPH round the M25.  And I live in France.

 

Anyway, I forgot that I hadn't actually bought a charging cable, so there's one on the way.

[Craig the Princess]

Cracking thread, congratulation on having the gumption to try it out rather than sitting here thinking it would be a good idea like me.

[loserone]

Cable has arrived, flashing light on the electricity meter is quite scary (and this is only a 3.3kw one!)

[forddeliveryboy]

Not half as scary as watching the price whizz up on a garage fuel pump though, eh?

 

Most of the leccy you buy is actually electrons (95% I think) compared with petrol or diesel only being 30-35% hydrocarbons (because tax). And probably 80%+ of electricity will be used to make your car move compared with less than 30% with liquid fuel.

 

So £75 or so out of every 100 which your wallet coughs up is used in moving an EV compared with maybe £9 for your oily machine. Add in zero road tax, much lower servicing and repair costs, an engine smoother and quieter than a Jag V12 with steam engine torque and it grows ever clearer that with improving batteries and charging infrastructure, cars with sumps, clutches, cambelts and exhausts are going to be cheaper than ever to buy second hand, once the public cottons on.

[loserone]

Yup, win-win for as-ists I reckon

[loserone]

Journey to work (Temps between -5 and -9) took 30% of the battery this morning. heating set to 21c throughout. This would be fine, but I also found a free charging bay in the work car park (there's four bays and 9 plug in cars, mostly outlander phevs) so I'm now fully charged for the way home.

 

Eco mode gives nice delicate throttle input for black ice. Only a scooby would have been more comfortable.

[loserone]

Right, I'm going to see the wildhearts on Wednesday, and I'm going in this.  I think DodgyTom (pbuh) would be proud of my efforts.

 

It's going to be at least two rapid charges there and back, and possibly three.  I'm already nervous.

[loserone]

Three rapid charges. Might get away with two on the way back

[Craig the Princess]

How long do the rapid charges take loserone?

[loserone]

Depends how long you're allowed. 45 mins in Wetherby, 30 in leeds ikea.

 

Nothing ever changes but the shoes. Great gig. Now to go home!

[loserone]

 

As midnight passes, I consider that the k11c would have cost only a little more, and it has a cassette player.

[Kiltox]

If I’ve missed it in this thread before I apologise but that app is cool as fuck.

 

Edit - is it just estimating or is it getting real time info from the car? Thought it was the latter.

[loserone]

It's the electric highway app, which is how you pay. 17ppkwh, which atm is the same as at home.

 

Nice alarm to let you know you need to put your beanie and gloves back on and stop chatting up the staff in Costa

[loserone]

Updated every few minutes

[loserone]

The guess-o-meter has dropped to show fewer miles left than I am from home.

 

Another charge it is, back at Scotch Corner.

 

This means at least 9 hours "travelling" from Durham to Leeds and back.

[Kiltox]

Ouch - that sounds like a right mission. Full on experiencing the EV “nightmare” that anyone going to bad mouth one will talk about

[loserone]

To be fair it cost me six quid all in, so I'm not doing too badly - two of the charges were free as the app fell out of sync with the charger.

 

It has left me slightly fucked for work today though.

[Kiltox]

Fair play to you. At least you were just stopped to recharge and not because your POS LDV van had broken down

[Guest Hooli]

So all that money you saved on fuel was spent in Costa?, no wonder the hipsters like EVs.

[sierraman]

Sounds like a damned inconvenience if I’m honest. Until they’ve got the knack of it to rival Petrols I’ll happily continue murdering people with the fumes from my car.

[loserone]

Yeah, I'm totally convinced that it's completely impractical for long journeys.  It was five rapid charges in the end.

 

Fortunately I do about 14k a year that's nothing to do with long journeys, so I can easily justify having two working cars.  I can also justify a thirstier petrol car, because I'm not using it for 14k a year of commuting and shopping trips..

[Craig the Princess]

The thing is if you only do long journeys a couple of times a year then it's worth the hassle. Or if you have another petrol/diesel car it's fine.

 

Cracking read this, please keep updating.

[Kiltox]

Do Nissan only lend you an ICE car for free during the warranty period?

[txe4]

Yeah, I'm totally convinced that it's completely impractical for long journeys.  It was five rapid charges in the end.

 

Fortunately I do about 14k a year that's nothing to do with long journeys, so I can easily justify having two working cars.  I can also justify a thirstier petrol car, because I'm not using it for 14k a year of commuting and shopping trips..

 

This. Exactly this.

 

Apologies if this is obvious and you've already figured it out, but - you can "start" the Leaf up while it's charging on a rapid, select 30C and max fan speed, and it will heat the interior up toasty warm for you using the power from the rapid. Very helpful in cold weather and little-to-no impact on charging time thanks to the very conservative BMS in the 24kWh Leaf which limits charging speed - ie the Rapid can supply more than the Leaf will take (for charging) almost all the time you're connected.

[beko1987]

So a leaf for boring commute stuff, and a 4l jag for fun? Sign me up! Cost neutral I'd imagine if you selectively calculate the figures

[forddeliveryboy]

What sort of speed did you cruise at? Is there a speed above which the consumption really rockets?

 

I'd be quite happy with only 80 miles per charge with a cheapish EV, let people pay five or six times more for a new one with a 200+ mile range but surely unless you're commuting crazy distances there's no need.

 

Heated m/bike clothing for longer trips in cold weather could improve range by a few miles...

[loserone]

55..

 

Yeah, i'd have been happy with 80 miles.

[Pillock]

Free because the app fell out of sync?

So you charge to 99% and then just turn mobile data off on your phone, or stick it in a handy Faraday cage?