Oh no, not another f***ing tyre thread. *Contains CHINESE*

[Partridge]

Sorry.

 

I was wondering if any of us have any direct experience of Delinte tyres? My Jag is going to need a couple of tyres soon - I was planning on putting some Vredesteins on it, but I've found these:

They come with added STYLE.

 

£40 quid a corner: that is pornographically cheap. Read a few good reviews about them, and they seem to score for well for dry and wet grip. A couple of people were moaning that they cracked after 15,000 miles. I hardly use the Jag, so no matter what I use they will probably crack and crumble before they wear down anyway!

 

They are Chinese, and I have views on Chinese tyres. But am I being daft?

 

Thoughts?

 

If the mods are sick of me wanking on about tyres, just put this in the open forum...I won't be offended

[gordonbennet]

I too have avoided Chinese tyres, piss poor wet grip has been my experience, though they arn't alone in that, i've had piss poor wet grip from Michelins Federals Yokohamas and Pirellis over the years which have all been removed and sold on, in the case of the Pirellis and Yokohamas within weeks of new vehicle /tyre purchase and were still brand new tyres.

 

Thats not to say those brands and tyre models wouldn't have been better on other vehicles, example i've had Pirelli P6000s on a Merc 124 and they stuck like shit to a blanket, but from comments i've read you might expect them to be as grippy as inner tubes.

 

The new set of Nankangs fitted to the Landcruiser when i bought it i expected to be utter crap, and to my surprise are proving perfectly good.

 

A bit like the Uniroyals i'm a fan of, they do grip really well but wear rapidly, happily at the cheaper end so all in all still worth buying.

 

If the reviews you are reading sound right, ie not a bunch of people hammering reviews sites (i think you can see this sometimes on review sites when too many similar wonderful reviews arrive in a short time frame), then why not give them a whirl for the hell of it, worse case they're crap and you flog em on.

[John F]

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[tooSavvy]

I AM NOT DEAD YET*

 

*landsail

 

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[Keymaster]

I broke my own rule about running Wan King Ditchunters & had a new pair of Delinte DH2's put on a Golf MK3 I had last year. I opted for them because they were cheaper than a pair of part worns from the tyre fitters ropey looking selection. They seemed OK wet or dry & I am not dead.

[UltraWomble]

I AM NOT DEAD YET*

 

*landsail

 

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TS

You clearly have not cornered at speed in the wet.

 

I died several times - in fact every time I try and negotiate the West Strand flyover corner in the wet, I die with my Landsail tyres.

[twosmoke300]

WHAT ? 

 

sorry cant hear anything over the roar from the ditch finders !

[Lankytim]

I think most of these Chinese shite tyres are actually not that bad now. I've never had any issues with any of them recently and most of the kak I buy and drive round in normally have a different ditchfinder on each corner.

[stripped fred]

I've just had Infinity Ecomax tyres fitted to my car. They're absolutely fine.

[UltraWomble]

Evergreen tyres are quite good.

[UltraWomble]

Oh and I have Kumho tyres on teh C8 and they are perfectly fine dry or wet

[Junkman]

 

WE INVENT. YOU DRIVE.

 

Hot dog! Now the Chinese have invented the wheel!

[Junkman]

You clearly have not cornered at speed in the wet.

 

Indeed. I do avoid cornering at speed in the wet as much I can because of congenital survival instinct.

I consider cornering at speed in the wet being a clinically insane thing to do, but therapy is available.

[John F]

You clearly have not cornered at speed in the wet.

 

I died several times - in fact every time I try and negotiate the West Strand flyover corner in the wet, I die with my Landsail tyres.

 

I think your hyperbole was wasted on Junkman...

[John F]

 YOU STUPID CUUUUuuuuuuuuuu.

 

For info, that will count as 1/2 in the event of a tie-break in next year's Count

[matto]

Minor point, but Nankangs and Kumhos aint Chinese.

 

There are some cracking tyre deals on eBay and Amazon from time to time, I've just gotten 4x new Toyo Proxes for £120.

[John F]

Well... Taiwan is officially the "Republic of China"...

[sawdustman]

I've got 'em on all 4 sides of my Berlingo. They seem OK, in wet or dry weather. The ditchfinder industry seems to have raised its game in recent years.

[Junkman]

I was coming along the M4 past junction 12 one day in lane 2 at around 50mph, while lane 1 was stationary with traffic queuing for the junction.

Why do you do 50 in a lane next to a stationary one?

 

Madness!

[Eddie Honda]

Why do you do 50 in a lane next to a stationary one?

 

Madness!

Why not? I'll even do 50 between stationary lanes.

[tooSavvy]

Why do you do 50 in a lane next to a stationary one?

 

Madness!

 

You laugh..No?

 

 

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[Junkman]

No, I see these kinds of stunts happening all the time, subsequently I sit in the inevitably ensuing tailbacks for hours on end.

[gordonbennet]

50 alongside stationary lanes has been the death of some people, especially when its a lorry coming down the middle lane at that speed, that bastarding A14/M6/M1 junction i have in mind before it was finally sorted.

If i was coming down there on a day when the nearside lane was stopped if it was too busy for me to slide over into the outside lane at 50+, then 30 mph or so was my speed beside the stopped lane, used to piss other vehicles off behind me and had all sorts of coffee invites (especially from the queue jumpers going to the last possible yard to push in) but have no wish to be the bringer of death and destruction to some poor bugger or their family who made a simple error.

 

At 30 you've got a chance of stopping, or at least reducing enough speed to make it a shunt, at 50 not a hope in hell, who knows where the lorry could end up should the vehicle that pulled out end up under the steering axle acting as a skateboard, possibly drag it straight into the queue.

[tooSavvy]

Sorry... head reset engaged.

 

Totally agree.... ADJUST for lamebrain a##holes cos WE ALL DIE.

 

 

No... Quite... 

 

 

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[jonny69]

... but have no wish to be the bringer of death and destruction to some poor bugger or their family who made a simple error.

 

At 30 you've got a chance of stopping, or at least reducing enough speed to make it a shunt, at 50 not a hope in hell, who knows where the lorry could end up should the vehicle that pulled out end up under the steering axle acting as a skateboard, possibly drag it straight into the queue.

 

You seem to be foolishly assuming other people actually give a fuck about this. They don't. That's why all the stupid shit you see happens.

[UltraWomble]

Indeed. I do avoid cornering at speed in the wet as much I can because of congenital survival instinct.

I consider cornering at speed in the wet being a clinically insane thing to do, but therapy is available.

THIS

any faster than 20 in the wet has me heading towards the lamp post where the cyclist is.

I am insane, not Hairnet or Too Savvy, but getting there.

[alcyonecorporation]

"Chinese tyres are shit."

"Chinese tyres aren't shit". 

I wouldn't bother. Shop around until you get the price of the Vredesteins down. 
New Chinese tyres are one step up from  'they're original because that makes the car wonderful' boots you see at car shows. 

[BorniteIdentity]

Evergreen tyres are quite good.

 

I am quite a tyre snob, but recently put some budgets on my huge van derived MPV.  Ovation.  From what I gather, they are are an old Michelin design - and my highly trusted garage said "We sell hundreds of them each month".  They are, in reality, absolutely fine.  I think tyre technology has come so far that even the shit is as good as the average used to be.

 

However, Evergreens I found to be utterly fucking shit.  The same garage even called them "Everslides".

 

I'm not a brisk driver by any standards, but they frightened me - and this was just on a Ford Focus.

 

I guess hereth lieth the problemeth.  One bad experience, and I post on the internet that they're all shite.

[alcyonecorporation]

Evergreen tyres are shite and overpriced. You only seem to see them at Halfords Autofit centres where they're always within several quid of something decent in the same size. 
 

[sierraman]

It's easy to say 'I always fit Pirelli P-Zeros to my £350 car' but I can see financially that makes no sense.

 

You'll find the really shit Chinese tyres are say £40 a tyre and will perform acceptably in the dry etc but likely as not they'll be treacherous in the wet. Spend another tenner a tyre more and you are into something decent usually of a standard you would find acceptable under heavy braking in the wet. The extra premium again for some Pirellis or whatever is rarely worth the extra unless you have something fairly powerful. It's as simple as that if you have a run of the mill car over say 5-6 years old.

 

It amazes me though how many folks decide on fairly new cars to increase the horsepower for whatever reason then fit the shittest cheapest pads they can find from ECP then fit the cheapest shittest 'Triple Love you Long time' tyres.

 

Some cars though will handle shit no matter what you fit to them.