Suggest me an engine.

[DodgeRover]

What about one of the little 3 cylinder diahatsu car engines

[cros]

∆∆This Diahatsu car engine, is there an in line gearbox to join it to, and will I be able to find one?

I've been looking round for some of the engines suggested so for and it's not easy to find, say, Vanettes, even though it only seem like yesterday that the ugly blighters were about.

Also, are Sierra 1.6's available with a carb because Ive seen a few of them festering in fields around here. I know nothing about them and have kept away from Ford's (except Transits) so praps someone can fill in the bit between the 100e and the first Mondeo for me.

[eddyramrod]

Sierra 1.6 will be a Pinto wearing a carb, and it won't be a very appetising option compared to the other Pinto versions.  Which might mean you can haul away the car for cheap, or even free, and you may well get a 5-speed box into the bargain.  If you can lay hands on a rotten Sierra this is probably a good way to go.  Be warned that the Pinto is both heavy and bulky for what it is.

[Skizzer]

Can't believe nobody has suggested the obvious* 2.5 litre flat four with the power steering pump run off the cambelt.

[twosmoke300]

You breaking yours for spares already ? 😂

[Skizzer]

That's not plan A, but I wouldn't want it to start taking me for granted.

[cros]

Sierra 1.6 will be a Pinto wearing a carb, and it won't be a very appetising option compared to the other Pinto versions. Which might mean you can haul away the car for cheap, or even free, and you may well get a 5-speed box into the bargain. If you can lay hands on a rotten Sierra this is probably a good way to go. Be warned that the Pinto is both heavy and bulky for what it is.

Just when I think 'that'd be good' someone pisses on my chips. I'm guessing the Pinto is heavy like a B series is heavy, something I'd like to avoid given the odd front suspension on the PC. Part of the fuck all that I know concerns the CVH- the man at the scrap yard told me they were shit when I separated a type nine gearbox from one at his emporium a few years ago, and I just left it at that.

The gearbox went into a Morris Minor, something I'd not bother to do again as the Minor has, for me, a perfectly acceptable gearbox already. So is the CVH awful, is it lighter than a Pinto and was the upside-down white Sierra I pulled the type 9 out of a rarity? Also while I'm at it, was the 1.6 and 1.8 diesel developed from the CVH? (Thanks, everyone, for all the Autoshite knowledge and info.)

[DodgeRover]

Type 9s are upside if £200 now if you have a few!

 

What about the sooty van type things from all the different manufacturers - They were rear wheel drive early ones will be carb

[Guest Hooli]

I can see most parts on ebay, even a complete set of oversized pistons. What are you struggling to get hold of?

[cros]

I can see most parts on ebay, even a complete set of oversized pistons. What are you struggling to get hold of?

If you mean parts for the PC Wyvern long stroke engine, what I'm struggling to get hold of is everything, rocker shaft, oil pump, carb, you name it its fucked. The gearbox is quite unusual in its workings and is also incredibly badly worn. Even the front cover that carries the clutch fork has been brazed back together at some time- how do you break one of these?

 The later Bedford CA/Victor engines are fairly badly served too. My alarm bells start ringing when you look for things like oil filters and find ads like this on ebay;

BEDFORD CA/VAUXHALL CRESTA/WYVERN 4 x OIL FILTERS, been in a tramps pocket for 20 years and  photographed outside on a wall, a snip at £100.

 

  With time, patience and money it can be fixed but at the end of it all I will have a 1500 35bhp engine which is why I'm looking around for possible alternatives. I want to use the van when it is finished, not when I'm finished.

  Is a Sooty van like the Honda Acty or something for luring kids into? As for the Type 9 gearbox, it cost me 40 quid at the time (early 2000's) and went when I sold the Morris traveller 5 years later.

[Cavcraft]

CDTi 1.9 150 out of a Vectra.

[DodgeRover]

Suzuki super carry

Diahatsu hi jet

Honda Acty etc

From memory names may not corespond to manufacturer

[cros]

CDTi 1.9 150 out of a Vectra.

Do I even need a gearbox with this?

[KruJoe]

Are folks on the wind-up by continuing to suggest engines from fwd cars? 

[KruJoe]

Suzuki super carry

Diahatsu hi jet

Honda Acty etc

 

 

Plus Bedford Rascal (which has already been suggested) would keep it in the family. Shares its DNA with the Suzuki Carry.

 

Do these little mid-engined mini-van things have the engine standing up in the conventional way, or are they laid on their side?

 

The Subaru ones were rear engined so not suitable. Rare and spendy now. I'd be looking for a Rascal.

[cros]

I shall be poking about under supercarrys if I can find one in the local scrap yard. The 1.3 engine looks too wide laying down but maybe it's similar to the early 1.6 Vitaras which I'm delighted to see are still around for little money and breathe through a carb.

[KruJoe]

Do these little mid-engined mini-van things have the engine standing up in the conventional way, or are they laid on their side?

 

 

I've done a bit more digging, it suggests Rascals came with 1.0 engines and 4 or 5 speed boxes. The 1.3 unit common in Suzuki Samurais bolt straight in* apparently. The pics I've found looks like the lump is laid over to the left about 45 degrees in Rascals / Super Carry.

[doobietoo]

∆∆This Diahatsu car engine, is there an in line gearbox to join it to, and will I be able to find one?

I've been looking round for some of the engines suggested so for and it's not easy to find, say, Vanettes, even though it only seem like yesterday that the ugly blighters were about.

Also, are Sierra 1.6's available with a carb because Ive seen a few of them festering in fields around here. I know nothing about them and have kept away from Ford's (except Transits) so praps someone can fill in the bit between the 100e and the first Mondeo for me.

Early Daihatsu Terios is 1300cc with longitudinal engine and box... just take the transfer box off the end ...they rust too so complete car for £500 or less probably get that back selling what you do not need....http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-51-Daihatsu-Terios-1-3-E-NO-MOT-SPARES-REPAIR-/122462340902?hash=item1c83530726:g:vEgAAOSwVm5Y~foK

[KruJoe]

Suzuki Samurais are the same, the transfer box is just bolted on the back of a normal box, so that can be ditched. Those Terios things often fetch good coin, they're still loved by old boy farmers who perhaps had a Fourtrack or its predecessor back in the day. There'll be electronics aplenty on Terioses I expect.

The little Suzukis from the 80's are more basic and shiter friendly. The 410 were 1.0, they came as 4 speeds, but will be thin on the ground now. 1.3 5 speeders look an interesting proposition.  

[junkyarddog]

I fitted a 1.8 Sierra Turodiesel engine and matching 5speed box into my FE estate a few years ago,

 

[Guest Hooli]

If you mean parts for the PC Wyvern long stroke engine, what I'm struggling to get hold of is everything, rocker shaft, oil pump, carb, you name it its fucked. The gearbox is quite unusual in its workings and is also incredibly badly worn. Even the front cover that carries the clutch fork has been brazed back together at some time- how do you break one of these?

 The later Bedford CA/Victor engines are fairly badly served too. My alarm bells start ringing when you look for things like oil filters and find ads like this on ebay;

oil filter.jpg

BEDFORD CA/VAUXHALL CRESTA/WYVERN 4 x OIL FILTERS, been in a tramps pocket for 20 years and  photographed outside on a wall, a snip at £100.

 

  With time, patience and money it can be fixed but at the end of it all I will have a 1500 35bhp engine which is why I'm looking around for possible alternatives. I want to use the van when it is finished, not when I'm finished.

  Is a Sooty van like the Honda Acty or something for luring kids into? As for the Type 9 gearbox, it cost me 40 quid at the time (early 2000's) and went when I sold the Morris traveller 5 years later.

 

 

I may have been looking at the wrong engine then, cheers for explaining.

[holbeck]

Just when I think 'that'd be good' someone pisses on my chips. I'm guessing the Pinto is heavy like a B series is heavy, something I'd like to avoid given the odd front suspension on the PC. Part of the fuck all that I know concerns the CVH- the man at the scrap yard told me they were shit when I separated a type nine gearbox from one at his emporium a few years ago, and I just left it at that.

 The gearbox went into a Morris Minor, something I'd not bother to do again as the Minor has, for me, a perfectly acceptable gearbox already. So is the CVH awful, is it lighter than a Pinto and was the upside white Sierra I pulled the type 9 out of a rarity? Also while I'm at it, was the 1.6 and 1.8 diesel developed from the CVH? (Thanks, everyone, for all the all the Autoshite knowledge and info.)

 

The 1.6 / 1.8 diesel was developed for Ford by KHD (Deutz). It has no commonality with either Pinto or CVH. It's not a very refined lump, but it does keep plodding on. Vibration is a big issue, it was not uncommon for alternators to drop off Escorts at quite low mileages. (I used to review warranty parts at Ford in a past life).

 

Also the following occurs to me, your Bedford's front suspension would have been set up for the weighty engine lump on the front axle, will fitting a lighter engine not make the front end too light? 

[twosmoke300]

1.6 /1.8 d is also as heavy as the moon ! All cast iron and built to last

[cros]

The 1.6 / 1.8 diesel was developed for Ford by KHD (Deutz). It has no commonality with either Pinto or CVH. It's not a very refined lump, but it does keep plodding on. Vibration is a big issue, it was not uncommon for alternators to drop off Escorts at quite low mileages. (I used to review warranty parts at Ford in a past life).

 

Also the following occurs to me, your Bedford's front suspension would have been set up for the weighty engine lump on the front axle, will fitting a lighter engine not make the front end too light?

 

Interesting. I was under the impression that the 1.6 was a very reliable engine, the 1.8 less so, but that was just gossip from local mechanics.

The Bedford's long-stroke 4 cylinder seems lighter than most 1500s of its day. The pushrods live on the outside of the narrow block, covered by a large bolted-on pressed plate that can't do much for oil-tightness.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

Would it be worth putting a wanted ad on RodsNSods for a small B Series with a column change box or something similar?

I'm sure there are people stuffing big engines in Somersets, Devons etc. Might even find someone that's got a Luton born 4 pot with a 3 on the tree.

[steveo3002]

would a mx5 1600 engine and box offer up?   

 

id be looking for something easily available and that i can buy one thats not in need of a massive refurb vs rare 1970s engines that were worn out 30 years ago and cant buy parts for

 

if its too fruity fit a reducer in the intake or such to tame it a bit 

[Des]

One thing to look out for with the Suzuki / Rasclot engine, I had a right game many years ago putting an ex 410 engine in a little Bedford, had to retain the original distributor for some reason, but they turned in different directions, I think I ended up having to swap the cam over after finding all the dizzy meddling in the world would only leave me with one where that spiral groove oil dissuader in its shaft would likely work instead to pump it full of the stuff, it's the littlest things that create the greatest quagmire of vexation.

I can photo / tapemeasure a Vanettes doings if that's of use, I have one on long term axle stands waiting for me to screw on a brakepipe.

[cros]

∆∆ Rods and sods might well be worth a try. I wouldn't bother with the Somerset/Devon engine as the 1500 b series is a lot better. Having said that, I had one in a Wolseley 1500 which I've not long sold. I bought the car with the engine newly (and expensively) rebuilt, and in honesty a decent 1275 is far better than the early b series, in single carb form at least. I had a J4 with the 1622 engine which I used for work until I couldn't stand it any more (about 2008). I must have been the last market trader in the world to use one and we're not talking financial markets here. The engine copes OK only because of the dismal gearing and the needle could never be persuaded into the last 10 mph zone on the clock despite the van being in good order.

It was replaced by a 1978 1.8 Sherpa and the difference is incredible, a great van developed on a tiny budget out of anything they had lying around.

[cros]

One thing to look out for with the Suzuki / Rasclot engine, I had a right game many years ago putting an ex 410 engine in a little Bedford, had to retain the original distributor for some reason, but they turned in different directions, I think I ended up having to swap the cam over after finding all the dizzy meddling in the world would only leave me with one where that spiral groove oil dissuader in its shaft would likely work instead to pump it full of the stuff, it's the littlest things that create the greatest quagmire of vexation.

I can photo / tapemeasure a Vanettes doings if that's of use, I have one on long term axle stands waiting for me to screw on a brakepipe.

The Vanettes doings are of great interest. Is it a carb and is the engine upright? The length of gearbox would be good to know as this is a problem area with the Suzuki option- the lack of tail shaft will mean I'll need a centre prop bearing which I'd like to avoid. I'm guessing the engine will be short as according to Wiki there's not much room under there. It said that when Nissan stuck a bigger engine in for the Yanks the vans started to catch fire and the company bought them back and crushed them. I don't know if the stuff they say is right though. Anyway, a photo looking down into the glory hole would be much appreciated.

[uk_senator]

Just had an idea, a shaft drive motorbike engine with reverse, something like a big BMW flat 4 lump or a Honda Goldwing, 1200-1800. Could knock up a subframe so you dont have to cut anything & get a new prop made up?

 

Alternatively you could stick a bendix starter motor onto a mini-ring gear/sandwich plate at the end of the prop with a separate battery on a split charge relay for reverse.