Who has/what is the most undesirable car on here?

[Pete-M]

The only (working) car I've ever had knocked back by a scrap yard was the Ford Cougar 2.5 I owned a few years ago. That thing was almost impossible to shift, which was weird as it drove quite well.

 

Eventually my tame mechanic bought it for a donation. It was still running sweetly a couple of years later.

 

Right now, it's probably my Mercedes E320 CDI wagon. Brilliant old bus, but not ideal for here as it works.

[Guest Breadvan72]

Has anyone got a Chrysler PT whatever?  That must count as serious shite, shurely.

 

What about the ultimate misery of a diesel automatic Crossfire Convertible?  One you can buy right here:-

 

http://www.swanmotorcentre.co.uk/html/display_vehicle.php?stock_ref=44

 

That, or rub shit in your hair.  I know which I'd choose. 

 

[Sheefag]

Eh? There was never a diesel Crossfire.

[gordonbennet]

12 year old, 3 Litre, flat 6 Subaru Legacy estate with two dented and scratched doors, which I've never bothered to fix after they were stuffed in a car park by some cunt, 18 months ago.

The seats and driving position are awful, it has a thirst like a Grimsby trawlerman, the auto box is utterly dire and it's worth the square root of absolutely fuck all.

And then, every now and again, the inner 17 year old rears his head, drives way way too fast on a bendy a or b road and it all makes sense again.

 

Our Outback H6 is now 15 so probably previous shape to yours, LPG though, that makes 'em a great wagon.

My Mrs loves it, she can drive like a complete twat and she does whatever the weather and the car just sorts it out for her, when this one gives up she wants another, she likes my Landcruiser but she likes acting the inner child she perfected about 40 years ago in her Cooper S too, and LC's don't really suit being thrown around.

 

Your gearbox probably needs an oil change, you can't drain the torque converter as such so just drop a sumpfull and top up again, roughly 5 litres at a time, do that 3 times driving it a few miles between each change, easier than an engine oil change just a bit fiddly getting the new oil down the dipstick tube, it'll be a different box after.

20 litres Dexron 3 (check oil spec though cos its been over 2 years since i bought the last batch, sure it was Dex3) from Exol or similar around £70 tops.

 

Don't tell anyone how good these are or this ones replacement might cost more than the LPG conversion if others cottoned on.

[Guest Breadvan72]

Eh? There was never a diesel Crossfire.

 

Phew!  It seems that the dealer selling that heap has invented one for added* sales appeal.

[Sheefag]

Don't knock the Crossfire until you've tried one, Mr Van. They are far better than the motoring press of the time would have you believe.

 

Gordon, I've done one ATF change on the current Legacy and it mildly improved things, it's bloody dear if you use the right ATF though.

 

The only pics I have are original sale ones from vendors.

 

My old and far more comfortable S reg 2.5

 

 

The current 3.0 at it's original home in Plymouth

 

[egg]

I reckon my fleet is pretty unsellable

 

Early Ford Fusion with thirstier 1.6 Petrol and 107k miles, no image, no point.

Mondeo 1.6 base, valueless and still in the wilderness.

Skoda Favorit, Felly had to give his away and I was the only one interested in my one at time of sale.

[gordonbennet]

Sheefag, from memory you've got change that gearbox oil about 3 sumpfulls to get enough percentage of new oil in.

If you check the specs i'm almost certain it was standard Dexron 3, which is cheap as chips to buy from Exol or other independent oil suppliers in 20/25 litre drums.

I found the Subaru Outback Forums particularly helpful for the H6's especially, even though based in US i believe.

 

Oddly enough you're not the first person to say they found the previous model more comfy and i'd hazard a guess at slightly more roomy too, but they're getting on a bit now and the 03 on is a much nicer looker and the H6 in it has more poke in the newer too by some 50hp i think.

 

No they're not everyones cup of tea, but that makes them great value, far better to own and work on than a German equivalent, but not such good parts back up it has to be said.

 

Ours is 52 plate so the model between your two.

[sierraman]

Mondeo 2.0 petrol. People forget it does 33 mpg and has a lovely quiet engine. When I sold mine all I got was 'how much 2 tax?' Quite honestly if you can't afford the extra £60 to tax over the diesel a year I'd be thinking twice whether I ought to be running a car at all.

[AMC Rebel]

Don't knock the Crossfire until you've tried one, Mr Van. They are far better than the motoring press of the time would have you believe.

 

 

 

 

They are basically a Merc SLK, from that short Chrysler/Merc era., and by basically, I mean pretty much the exact same car.  They didn't even bother to change the interior - seats, switches, controls etc are all the same as the Merc, as are the mechanicals.  Since Merc never did a fixed-head version, that's about the only difference (and I prefer the Chrysler styling - but I would).  Back in the day my then wife had an SLK and I had a Jeep, so the loan car Crossfire was very familiar as I'd driven her SLK.  About an inch too small all round in the cabin, but fun to drive with RWD (traction/ESP to get you out of trouble) and slightly odd feeling steering.

[AMC Rebel]

Mondeo 2.0 petrol. People forget it does 33 mpg and has a lovely quiet engine. When I sold mine all I got was 'how much 2 tax?' Quite honestly if you can't afford the extra £60 to tax over the diesel a year I'd be thinking twice whether I ought to be running a car at all.

Or indeed the 1.8 Pez Verona - since I bought this one (which I am very happy with BTW) I have seen another sell for £167 on the bay, and unsold examples ranging from £300-£1200.  Then again, I have 3 RHD Yanks - which all God fearing, cowboy-booted, confederate battle flag waving UK yee-hars all tell me "aren't proper" so I do have a thing for the unloved.

[bangernomics]

Remember badging up the LX as veronas is it green or grey/blue?

[AMC Rebel]

Verona is an LX with extras - mine's Red, but I have seen others in the colours you mention.  They were a proper trim level (like Aspen. Zetec etc) and ran for a long time.

[bangernomics]

Fair do's I'm maybe remembering wrong but thought they were an LX with alloys and met paint and a 5000/6000 radio?

 

Worked at quicks in bury for a couple of years. Remember the cougar launch and the free mats as the heel pad was lhd in the first batch and being hooned around oulton park chasing 406 coupes, the puma was a good time and ragged a 1.7 through a tank or two. Most fun was fleet sales guys probe 2.5 in black with black leather I thought I was knight rider.

 

Focus launch was a revelation from noisy escorts at 90 making funny noises out of the heaters? Weird. Actually wrote the whole side of a green verona off on a farmers trailer.

 

Also motability returns being shipped between sites, 1.3 Kent escorts flat out on the m66 bouncing valves through the bonnet.

[AMC Rebel]

Fair do's I'm maybe remembering wrong but thought they were an LX with alloys and met paint and a 5000/6000 radio?

 

 

Fair do's as well - I wasn't working in a Ford dealers at the time

 

As far as I know, you are right about the radio and alloys, but the MK2 ones like mine have a little script badge on the rear doors that reads "Verona" instead of "Mondeo".  There's no rear badge - except Mondeo and LX.  T'internet wisdom seems divided about whether Verona got you aircon (mine has it) or whether you got that with an LX anyway.  I thought I had a brochure (and I do but it turns out it's a summary of the whole Ford Range so not detailed enough).

[Faker]

Nowt vag about them (apart from the 1.6 8v and the 1.9 derv)...

[Faker]

Mine. Bought 7 months ago now. Work mates give me such stick for buying it! I don't care. Reliable to a fault, and cost me less than what most of them pay for theirs each month. Win win in my book. Would be impossible to shift though..

[Faker]

Then there's this turd!

 

I might love it! But I'm special!

[gordonbennet]

Mine. Bought 7 months ago now. Work mates give me such stick for buying it! I don't care. Reliable to a fault, and cost me less than what most of them pay for theirs each month. Win win in my book. Would be impossible to shift though..

 

It must be us here then, cos that looks a nice neat hatch with decent visibility all round sitting on tyre sizes they nearly pay you to take off their hands, far nicer to look at than some of the gopping bloody things to come out of the Skoda studio since VW took over, and they aint alone for making to truly arse ugly motors either, look at the state of modern Mercs and Lexus, yer eyes bleed just to look at them, has anyone seen the latest Prius in the flesh, who the fuck approved that or was involved in its conception should be sacked.

[Pillock]

The Mk1 Mondeo Verona was a run out model in 1997. I think they were all Juice Green (although the choice of blue rings a bell). Ours didn't have alloys though, it was basically an LX. No electric drivers seat that the GLX had, no heated windscreen, electric front window only. Did have the Verona badge though.

 

I think on the Mk2 it was a longer lasting trim level.

[legasoil96]

 

 

Brothers artwork b2200 pickup a gutless heap covered in patches. Mainly held on with coach bolts or rivets.Stick on lead features too. Even undesirable to exporters now. 

 

 

My best van eva although a bit rusty at the moment. Older Renault vans are quality but no one else seems to think so. Fear one day these may become hipster vans .

 

 

 

For sale actually MOT'd  even I don't want a ford.

 

 

[captain_70s]

I'd like to nominate my Civic in that it's too new and boring to be interesting in any way but is old enough to have started becoming slightly unreliable and working on it is a general pain in the arse, it also wasn't terribly cheap.

 

In these parts a genuinely awful car like a Yugo or a Lada Samara or whatever is considered somewhat of a status symbol, the Civic is lacking in this department also. Tis neither shite nor a decent car. Awful.

[Station]

The only (working) car I've ever had knocked back by a scrap yard was the Ford Cougar 2.5 I owned a few years ago. That thing was almost impossible to shift, which was weird as it drove quite well.

Eventually my tame mechanic bought it for a donation. It was still running sweetly a couple of years later.

Right now, it's probably my Mercedes E320 CDI wagon. Brilliant old bus, but not ideal for here as it works.

I miss my old E320, a good one with everything working would be perfect.

[Station]

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Brothers artwork b2200 pickup a gutless heap covered in patches. Mainly held on with coach bolts or rivets.Stick on lead features too. Even undesirable to exporters now.

 

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My best van eva although a bit rusty at the moment. Older Renault vans are quality but no one else seems to think so. Fear one day these may become hipster vans .

 

 

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For sale actually MOT'd even I don't want a ford.

There's a B2500 Mazda for sale down the road from me, it's been parked up for months. Going for £795 which I think is cheap for its '12 months MOT'. Looks rough though!

 

[Doctormop]

legasoil96, on 02 Jan 2017 - 11:18 PM, said:

 

 

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My best van eva although a bit rusty at the moment. Older Renault vans are quality but no one else seems to think so. Fear one day these may become hipster vans .

 

 

Undoubtedly the 'H' van of the future, can't wait to be asked for 50 Euro for a fair trade extra skinny latte and biscotti from such a vehicle in the non too distant future. 

(I will of course produce my flask of Maxwell House coffee and unbranded biscuits stolen from a Travelodge several years previously and state clearly and in a measured tone;

"I remember when these vans were used as patient transport ambulances and they all smelt of piss"

A strange ambition you might think but it will happen one day.

[Junkman]

Jayzers in the Everglades, is there actually one single desirable car on here?

 

Thought not.

[Uncle Jimmy]

I agree about the Zafira; hired one about 10 years ago, Vauxhells had oddly hard seats around that time, convex shaped so as to be extraordinarily uncomfortable. The interior plastics were of a milk carton quality and the whole cavernous carcass had a death rattle diesel sound even at idle.

[MiniMort]

Probably been said before but the Mk1 Ford Focus... It's common as muck and , by today's styling, has... None at all, it's just a box on wheels that's curved for arodynamics... Also the original 80s Dacia Duster isn't a good styled vehicle either, incredibly rare though...

[MiniMort]

Oh and you know who has a Mk1 Focus? Ed Miliband... Turquoise green and all

[alcyonecorporation]

I have a one-off-the-bottom-rung VAG mobile from 2014.

 

Massively undesirable on Autoshite's terms.