Mrs_Outlaw wantz moddern badermatic question

[outlaw118]

Howdy Chaps and Chappettes....

 

Mrs_Outlaw is considering a purchase; must be Mills-o-matic and drink less and cost less to tax than her current steed, a 2008 Fiesta 1.6 Auto Ghia.

 

I've found this:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-Peugeot-208-1-4-e-HDi-Active-5-door-EGC-Diesel-Hatchback-0-TAX-MOT-FREE-/201533461652? And it appears cheap... I've asked the bloke a few questions, ie HPI and history and stuff, does anyone know owt about these?

[cort16]

Run away

[outlaw118]

Blimey! That was quick, he's replied already.....it's a CAT D.

[rrsix]

I drove one with 100 miles on the clock from Kent to Inverness and back it felt like it was falling apart then and it was a manual. One of the hardest drives I've ever done and I've done the same run in knackered hightop smiley transits.

[outlaw118]

Right, so that's not gonna happen....setting a budget of £5000 plus the Fiesta (£2500?) what do we reckon?

 

A Horsey Horsless Clutch-o-Drive is too much in VED.

 

A new shape Fiesta i Auto is £180pa on VED. 

 

Pugyots R shit.

 

What about Pixos? I like the basicness...but thinking perhaps Mrs won't be quite so keen...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NISSAN-PIXO-1-0-N-Tec-5dr-Auto-/262320020342?hash=item3d137ddb76:g:xHEAAOSwZ8ZW23A8

[Kiltox]

Someone on here had a clean 208 for sale at ~£6300

[Lacquer Peel]

[gordonbennet]

Pretty sure the gearbox in that 208 is the automated manual gearbox from hell, used to be called sensodrive when they first put the fuckin thing in Cit's, its shit just like any and every automated manual ever made world without end Amen.

 

Ows about an ex rental ex lease ex management whatever Kia Picanto or summat similar, Kia used to restart the 7 year warranty on cars up to about a year old sold through their dealers, got to be worth a look.

 

I know she wants as close to zero VED as poss, but IMHO you can get too carried away with worrying about that, if the car costing £150 to tax every year doesn't go wrong for 5 years, thats better than a bloody zero tax cost thing that shits its gearbox out and costs you £2k at year 5, course if you can get zero VED and a good car then you're laughing.

 

Yaris hybrid?

[Barry Cade]

Panda.

 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIAT-PANDA-EASY-DUALOGIC-TWINAIR-ONLY-3000-MILES-70-MPG-ECONOMICAL-SMALL-CAR-/322045099466?hash=item4afb623dca:g:5QoAAOSwMORW7V6A

[outlaw118]

Not looked at Kias...and not looked on What Car? either...gonna do that now.
Panda? I would, but again, it's not my money...apparently they're "ugly".

 

So am I, but she still married me.

[outlaw118]

.0 HELLO I AM PETER BEARDSLEY

 

[Jazoli]

Buy a Prius, they are a bit bigger than a 208 but should tick all the other boxes

[Kiltox]

.0 HELLO I AM PETER BEARDSLEY

 

Competent little cars but I couldn't buy a 2 year old car from a dealer with "CARZ" in their name

[outlaw118]

Thats a CAT d as well.... just looking at that v a mark one version... they used to be a pretty little thing!

[Barry Cade]

Jesus, they've done the same on the other side!

 

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you are Giorgetto Giugiaro and ICMFP.

[Noel Tidybeard]

hunder jezz

[Junkman]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/208D-Mercedes-motorhome-campervan-LEZ-compliant-Turbo-Rare-/182057858035

[smellypoo]

Is the 08 fester the current shape pre-facelift or the previous more square-y one with the round headlights? 

 

Other than tax/fuel and maintenance is there any other factor necessitating change? 

 

If it is the newer version fester, and no serious reason to change I'd probably keep it, of current modern hatches that size they are great to drive and depreciation looks like it'll hit harder with the non VAG alternatives except perhaps the Jazz or Yaris. Is replacing with the same but newer out of the question?

[320touring]

I'd say i10!

 

have had both i10 and 208 as hire cars for a couple of days, and done reviews on them both

 

i10 review

https://fuguttycars.wordpress.com/2014/09/22/114/

 

pug 208 review

https://fuguttycars.wordpress.com/2016/03/05/poor-show-peugeot/

[carlo]

We're going to offload our 2015 Kia Picanto 2 1.2 automatic shortly, change in circumstances means it's back to old bangers for Mrs_Carlo

 

2015, 64 reg in Silver 

 

Nice conventional 4 speed torque converter auto box (not this semi-auto nonsense), goes very well.  13 months old, around 8,000 miles.  6 years left of the Kia warranty, and just been serviced.

 

PM me if interested.  Will be under £7k, which is trade ish price as we need shot.

 

[gordonbennet]

A match perfecto, known car, 6 years proper warranty, and not one smarmy dealer will make a penny out of the deal.

[SiC]

Jazz imo.

 

Newer shape (newist not long out, so the newer have dropped), not the older/original shape. The original shape auto box was rubbish reliability wise.

[outlaw118]

Ok chaps, thanks for the input.

 

The fester is the last of the "old" shape - nowt wrong with it at all, just the VED hurts at £180pa and mpg - shortish journeys is a bit pants. The newer shape ones are marginally more economical, but the VED is the same.

 

She sees the Jizz as "an old dears car", I haven't got the ballz to tell her she's 56, and a grandmother of 3....  although, yeah worth a look.

 

And @ Mr Carlo; that's very tempting, I'll mention it to her...don't 'spose you'd want the Festa as P/ex?....and it means I can have a KOLLEKSHUN FRED with pasties and decent ice-cream!

[carlo]

^

 

Probably not, need something cheaper but what's the mileage, colour (!), no. of doors & MOT situation?

[cort16]

Just buy something japanese or korean and you can't go too far wrong. The warranties on those Kia's and Hyundai's make them hard to look past if your after a reliable domestic appliance type vehicle. Some of the Kia's even look quite nice.

[dollywobbler]

I've driven an i10 auto (current shape) and thought it very pleasant, if a bit short of suspension. As mentioned, proper old-school torque converter slushbox, so actually works. Picanto is the same car under the skin I think.

[Noel Tidybeard]

She sees the Jizz as "an old dears car", I haven't got the ballz to tell her she's 56, and a grandmother of 3....  although, yeah worth a look.

 

show her the hybrid in lime green and ask how "old man " that looks! lol

[outlaw118]

@ Carlo it's Panther Black, 5 door, MoT about to expire but WIL DEFO PARS (will put another one on) think it's done about 57k...ish..., grey cow interior, alloys, leccy windows, remote locking, folding mirrors (which is why she bought it in the first place, apparently it looks "cute"), small graze to osr arch that covers pretty well with that black colour polish, thats about all i can think of. It's got some history, but has never FTP'd in her ownership, nor been crashed etc. Same as this one 

[outlaw118]

@ Mr D Wobblah, will have a look at i10's too....

@Cort16, agreed, probably the way forward...

@Mr Gallagher...Lime Green? That'll never happen, but I take your point!!

[Eddie Honda]

Jazz imo.

 

Newer shape (newist not long out, so the newer have dropped), not the older/original shape. The original shape auto box was rubbish reliability wise.

 

Nah, 2009 and 2010 have AMT (Marmite, some like, a lot hate). 2011 on CVT with torque converter.

 

[pedant hat]Type AA (City) from the '80s was the original shape.[/pedant hat]

 

GDs (2002-2008) with CVT aren't rubbish reliability wise. Got two and the start clutches are fine on them. Yes the warranty was extended on them because of judder, but that was down to silly service schedules and different transmission fluid.

 

Number one did 23k in our hands before it was twatted and will be repaired. Number two has done 11k+ with slipping reverse since being bought (cheap). I'll fix that when I can be bothered as it hasn't got any worse. Number one had only one FTP and that was due to dead battery (10 year-old original).

 

Saying the SWRA tranmission is rubbish reliability wise is like saying a manual gear box is unreliable because of shit clutch.