Project Busy Braking stuff.. Moogs Motahs

[Shirley Knott]

Can't believe how easy that lock module change looks,  my VAG knowledge trails off after 2004 and I genuinely had no idea the doorskin came off like that on Mk5's!

Unfortunately Mk4's are a bit of a pain, I wish it were as simple as mine's properly busted..... I've got a module that's been sat in the shed for literally months, I must get round to doing it soon.

[The Moog]

Look what turned up

[hairnet]

expect news later

 

'man with head caved in in lancashire'

 

police are seeking.............

[jumpingjehovahs]

43 minutes ago, snagglepuss said:

Look what turned up

Very jealous, the best/my favourite car I’ve ever had was a 2010 Smart. They’re awesome, completely underrated, cars. 

This looks like a lovely little thing and in a great colour combo 

[Broadsword]

Wow, that was unexpected. Another very red car. I know literally nothing about these! Do give us a full report soon!

[hairnet]

so you will be fiddling with its bum as some stage ?

[The Moog]

4 hours ago, Broadsword said:

Wow, that was unexpected. Another very red car. I know literally nothing about these! Do give us a full report soon!

Same here but thought it ticks the boxes.

 

Missus Puss only likes to drive autos and finds the Getz a bit of a pez guzzler plus 99% of the time it is her in the car. She also finds getz a bit of a pain to park.

 

When this popped back up for sale I had to pounce.   After looking at tickets and working out my schedule BDS was engaged.

Montytom was an absolute gent making sure it was good to go and sorting out details with BDS.

At 8 this morning I had a big man and a smoll car on my doorstep. He had favourable things to say about the car.

 

After taking it round the block a few times it is an odd thing. The auto / manual gear change takes a bit of getting used to.  I find it better with flappy paddles than leaving it to its own devices.

 

Missus Puss isn't so sure. She finds the steering a little heavy compared to he Getz. On flip side she loves the potentially cheap running costs, the ease to park and the looks. I think her Scottishness will win and money will talk.

I had assumed these were PAS but Montytom told me otherwise hence feeling a bit heavier than getz.

 

Hopefully by the end of the day a decision will be made and either a SMART or a Getz will be up for sale. 

 

I have been told that if the SMART stays I can also keep the little pug so fingers crossed!

 

[gm]

a wee bit more tyre pressure up front may help if the steering is heavy

[hairnet]

treat it like a bike and let off slightly when you change gear and it doesnt lurch as much

remember when easycar rented these

hired these and a class while getting over a bike accident 

? big man in a smol car (needed pics of bucket in it or yourself )

[mrbenn]

Wow, haven't caught up on this thread for a while - lots happening.

Great work on the Rover! Well worth saving, though it has been a lot of work.

My gob dropped open when I saw the door skin off the Golf - clever idea but looks a bit serious!

Glad to see the little Smart has come up North, was wondering who'd bought that. They are belting little things, mine has been part of the furniture (partner's car originally) for 13 years. The "auto" box responds much much better when you're used to it and know what it is likely to do, and when. The ones with (electric) PAS are apparently a bit too light and lacking feel. Do check the tyre pressures as that will make a massive difference, it shouldn't be heavy. There are (IIRC) two steering UJ's that could perhaps account for the heavy steering. Do check the front ball joints as they can and do go, and I seem to remember this one had a knock of some sort. Also check the breather pipe at the top of the engine, there is a valve which can clog and cause oil use.

I use this lot for parts, if what you're after isn't listed then drop them an email - they're very helpful:

https://www.smarttune.co.uk/

If you end up keeping the car for a while then this website is worth it's weight in gold, IMHO:

https://www.evilution.co.uk/index.php

[The Moog]

All good info thanks. 
I don't think the steering is that bad, just coming from the Getz it feels heavy. I think she will forget about it once she drives it.

 

Just been for a motorway trundle and missus Puss was impressed.  Apparently a northern monkey needs to have a look at it tomorrow just to check it over then it will be a keeper.

 

I can do a photo blog thing of all the funky parts.

 

Got a couple questions for anyone that knows these wee beasties

1) if lights are left on is there a noise to tell you they have?

2) what's best way to get a spare key?

 

[Bucketeer]

2 hours ago, snagglepuss said:

Hopefully by the end of the day a decision will be made and either a SMART or a Getz will be up for sale. 

 

I have been told that if the SMART stays I can also keep the little pug so fingers crossed!

[hairnet]

 

[hairnet]

not the pope - the getz must die

 

[mrbenn]

59 minutes ago, snagglepuss said:

Got a couple questions for anyone that knows these wee beasties

1) if lights are left on is there a noise to tell you they have?

2) what's best way to get a spare key?

 

 

Should be a lights on noise, well there is on mine anyway. Seems to come from the under dash/fusebox area but I haven't investigated further.

To get a spare key I'd suggest looking up a kit called the Delphi DS150 on ebay. This can code keys to the later (2003 onwards) models. You just have to buy the key on the 'net. Not sure if Timpsons could clone the existing key (that'd be easier but I don't think they can), but the Delphi kit does lots of useful stuff that may come in handy. Would suggest avoiding the later Bluetooth only models as the B/T aspect can be more difficult to set up than the good old USB cable arrangement. Failing that, it's a dealer or independant specialist job as STAR machine/software is required.

 

ETA: SiC programmed a key to the Roadster he had for a while using Delphi. so he may be able to advise further.

[The Moog]

Excellent info.  Missus Puss is used to leaving the lights on all the time with the Getz but the Smart seems to leave the side lights on without a noise. Don't want to have to deal with flat battery.

[Six-cylinder]

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[hairnet]

one of them plug in jump packs ftw

first thing on the list if i ever bought an auto

[The Moog]

4 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

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A wise man once told me that the 205 is an ordinary car made better by the exhaust. 

That strange tall man in a black hoodie was correct ...

[Six-cylinder]

29 minutes ago, snagglepuss said:

A wise man once told me that the 205 is an ordinary car made better by the exhaust. 

That strange tall man in a black hoodie was correct ...

He could keep it clean if he likes it so much!

[The Moog]

Time to poke at the new car

 

Northern monkey kindly lent me his ramp to have a look.

To do list is

Set of front discs and pads

Engine mounts

Leak from turbo

Drop links

Set of tyres

 

Overall not bad.  It looks like the oil use is a leak from the Turbot which is a better result than oil rings. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Six-cylinder]

45 minutes ago, snagglepuss said:

Overall not bad.  It looks like the oil use is a leak from the Turbot which is a better result than oil rings.

Lucky I did not know the high oil consumption was only a leak or I would have raced you for it and I had a head start!

 

Hold on, the same man would have collected it!

[Saabnut]

Dibs when you get bored with it!

 

[The Moog]

I don't think this will be going anywhere as it becomes Missus Pusses daily. I am hoping that a little bit of fettling it will be good for many years.

As for Dibs I think currently there are 3 in the queue!

 

 

[NorthernMonkey]

25 minutes ago, snagglepuss said:

As for Dibs I think currently there are 3 in the queue behind Northern Monkey!

?

Who, incidentally, is currently scouring eBay for cheap Smarts...

[hairnet]

so on here theres xud pervs

volvo pervs

now smart ones??

omg

[mrbenn]

Belter. The oil leak is a serious win! Makes this even more of a bargain.

Nothing scary on the to-do list, if I may offer one or two tips:

- brake discs and pads. Piece of cake, but you will need an E socket (think thats just female torx), E18 from memory, to remove the pad carrier to allow the disc to come off. Pads just need 13 and 17mm spanners. 15mm socket for the wheels, T30 bit for the brake disc retaining screw. Plenty of E/torx stuff on these.

- drop links. Bit of a pain. The upper fixing will come off fine, the lower nut will not. It faces the road and gets all the water/salt/crap. You won't manage to counter hold it as it'll be too corroded. Best approach IMHO is get a windy/impact gun on it then (you may be lucky with a standard ratchet), assuming you manage to move the nut even a little bit before it siezes on the rust, push upwards on the thread. This will give a bit of room to allow you to cut the thing off just below the joint on the top of the wishbone. Pic of what I did hopefully below. ETA Northern NGJ Monkey Leeds will prob have relevant tools and experience to make this much easier than I found it!

From memory the turbo oil feed is two pipes that enter at the bottom of the unit, almost facing the ground. There is a gasket here (or should be) so perhaps this has failed. For reference, this is the pipe you're looking for:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Smart-Fortwo-Roadster-450-452-Turbo-Oil-Coolant-Return-Supply-Pipe-0003152V005/202435156792?hash=item2f22135b38:g:ZpQAAOSw3KhbmVvP

It looks like it has had a sump with a drain plug fitted, which is a great addition. As standard the oil has to be sucked/pumped out of the dipstick hole. Use a decent quality oil filter, I've seen a number of cases of cheapo items breaking up.

What style were the spare alloys you got with it, out of interest?

[The Moog]

All good info - Mr northern monkey is going to be sorting the bits when I am off in Thailand in July so I won't have to worry about that !

I have only got 3 of the wheels here the rest are in Plymouth as Montytom is holding on to them for me until I can get down to collect.  They look to be in good condition.

[montytom]

Oh I am so sorry I never realised it had all these problems i feel awful now. (I never meant to dupe you) if you want me too I can transfer some money back to help pay for the Bill's. Again I'm so sorry

[The Moog]

8 minutes ago, montytom said:

Oh I am so sorry I never realised it had all these problems i feel awful now. (I never meant to dupe you) if you want me too I can transfer some money back to help pay for the Bill's. Again I'm so sorry

Sent you a PM - honestly mate I am over the moon with the car.

It's all bits that all cars need doing - it keeps me out of mischief ??