Christine Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 This Honda HRV vetec you lot said would be great...since i've had it , its had no low down grunt ..utterly hate driving it . 4000pm and up to 7000 it goes like a rocket , so i assume its vetecing ok . I'm reading about Maf and map sensors needing a clean.. Come to a hill and i'm struggling , flooring it makes no difference you have to drop a gear or two and rev the bollocks off it , fuel consumption is heavy . What bits might need cleaning?What have i got map or maf? Engine is D16 W5..What are these bits ?
crapcarcollector Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 It probably isn't broke. My CRV has no low down grunt. It's all about the revs. When I first had mine I was like WTF? Now I've had it for years I couldn't careless.... Christine 1
cort16 Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 my experience of v-tec hondas is this is just what they're like. Not the most relaxing driving experience. Christine and Barry Cade 2
r.welfare Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 Agreed. Try one with an automatic! No progress at low engine speeds and crap economy but my God, they do last well. Christine 1
Bear Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 They all do that. Is it 4x4? Can sort you with a Mercedes that has lots of grunt. Only one gear though. Christine 1
Christine Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 Honda sold thousands ..they couldn't possibly have sold that many when they're as gutless as this one?People just wouldn't have bought one . Even dragging a 4x4 system around can't make it this slow . My 1.9 68 bhp T4 (loaded )could whip its arse in normal driving . ... That feels lively in comparison ! I have to pull away with a look at the rev counter . 2000 min or it will die..it's dangerous pulling out on a main road !
Tamworthbay Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 My wifes mazda 3 is the same. Utterly gutless below 3500rpm to the point of being near dangerous, then goes like stink. For an engine with around 200bhp it is awful to drive. I understand the idea of vtec technology but don't think the compromise is worth it personally and wouldn't ever buy another. chancer and Christine 2
Christine Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 No , no lights ,and just recently passed emmision test on mot ..Exhaust pipe black though , plugs clean...tooo clean ! I like brown deposits ! Which makes me think it's running lean
Bear Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 They're supposed to run lean to be efficient on fuel. Air filter hoses all good? Christine 1
Christine Posted December 5, 2015 Author Posted December 5, 2015 well, could be... that spring on the hose after the top box isnt in the right groove ..but it was quite a snug fit on the outlet stub.
Lacquer Peel Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 I knew someone who had a nearly new one, it was thirsty and gutless. Christine 1
crapcarcollector Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 Honda sold thousands ..they couldn't possibly have sold that many when they're as gutless as this one?People just wouldn't have bought one . Even dragging a 4x4 system around can't make it this slow . My 1.9 68 bhp T4 (loaded )could whip its arse in normal driving . ... That feels lively in comparison ! I have to pull away with a look at the rev counter . 2000 min or it will die..it's dangerous pulling out on a main road !Swmbo's Fiat 500 1.2 pop would have mine for breakfast all the way to yoVETC. They are that slow. But indestructible. Christine 1
Bren Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 Honda petrols are thirsty and gutless. They are an acquired taste. An ex work colleague bought a civic type R after having BMW diesels. He did'nt have it long, needs revving all the time and very thirsty. Got pissed off with it and bought another BMW. Christine 1
Honey Badger Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 Sounds like standard SOHC old Vtec behaviour to me, stop driving it like a pensioner normal petrol and rev the fuck out of it all the torques at the top end, change your driving style to suit the car or get rid of it and get something with low down grunt. Honda petrols are thirsty and gutless. They are an acquired taste.An ex work colleague bought a civic type R after having BMW diesels. He did'nt have it long, needs revving all the time and very thirsty. Got pissed off with it and bought another BMW. Thats like me saying all Audi drivers are cnuts, when only 98% of them are. Honda DOHC or fast i-VTECs are fucking rapid as are the V6s you just have to learn to get the best out of them when you press on, certainly I never had a problem making decent progress in my Civic Type S with a 2.0 pez or my V6 Accord. They do like a drink though. Christine 1
billyboy406v6 Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 No guts, driven by old people, that's why they last so long ? Christine 1
Honey Badger Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 This is the Vtec solenoid as far as I know, they are always at the rear left of the cam cover Could the rear diff fluid need changing, it can cause a bit of transmission winding if the fluid goes bad? http://www.coxmotorparts.co.uk/genuine-honda-crv-rear-differential-flushing-kit-p-1204.html No 2 looks like the MAF to me, it's certainly in a similar position on my throttle body, twosmoke will be the man who knows. Christine 1
Honey Badger Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 No guts, driven by old people, that's why they last so long ? People in glass houses... Apart from the reliable bit obviously
beko1987 Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 My collagues just about got used to a tank a week for 250 miles in his 2.0 pez crv, was a bit of a shocl after a 1.5dci empty van! He said he drives it fast everywhere now, as it uses no more fuel than driving it gingerly. Says its gr9 fun surprising other road idiots though, it goes some when you plant your foot! He certainly lost me when we drove back to the office after collecting it, and I was hoofing it already! Christine and spartacus 2
Asimo Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 Not all Vtec engines are set up to be top end screamers. The '54 Civic 1.6 for example: not particularly powerful, but much more flexible than you could expect from something 1.6 of the same power without valve timing tricks. Also very good on juice. Engine-wise, ours, now with one of the children, still just the same at 150,000 ish. The HRV is a brick shaped heavy thing with not much power so is going to be a bit gentle and greedy. I think I would first find one for sale somewhere and have a test drive for comparison before trying to fix something that make not actually be broken. Christine, garethj, KruJoe and 1 other 4
M'coli Posted December 5, 2015 Posted December 5, 2015 It's the single cam VTEC thing, my mate had a Civic 1.5 VTEC that was shit-slow below 4k rpm or so but was redlined at 7 and a bit and chucked out 115 bhp, which for a late 1990s 1.5 was pretty good. The VTEC on these also only opens one inlet valve below the cut-in point to help with fuel economy, which is why we got 50 mpg out of it. That he had a phobia about "abusing" engines meant that overtakes that should have been started in 2nd took place in 3rd and took such an age that for me it opened a complete different type of valve and gas/hydrocarbons/emissions escaped. I got a bollocking on the A87 for revving it to 6.8k in second getting past a caravan, ffs, but it was the only safe way to do it... Christine 1
Eddie Honda Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 What are these bits ? #1, 36162-P75-A11 Valve, Purge Control Solenoid: #2, 37830-PAA-S00 MAP sensor: #3, 37880-P2A-004 Air temperature sensor: #4, 15810-P2M-A01 Valve assembly, spool: http://www.lingshondaparts.com/honda_car_parts_selection.php?block_01=17S2H01&block_02=B__0100&block_03=19328 http://www.lingshondaparts.com/honda_car_parts_selection.php?block_01=17S2H01&block_02=E__0101&block_03=19328 http://www.lingshondaparts.com/honda_car_parts_selection.php?block_01=17S2H01&block_02=E__1001&block_03=19328
hauserplenty Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 ^ Cap doffed. I concur with downshifting when you need it to get out of its own way. Since it passed emissions testing that rules out a blocked exhaust. Nicola H 1
Junkman Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 Newfangled shit.Where are the carburetters? mercrocker, Craig the Princess, Lacquer Peel and 1 other 4
twosmoke300 Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 Back in the shed full of crap from a rusty tank !
Tetleysmooth Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 I've got no idea what those bits are, or what the problem is, but I'll swap you a box of books for it, plus money my way. Junkman and Christine 2
Christine Posted December 6, 2015 Author Posted December 6, 2015 I found some torque figures .. vetec is max at 4900 the non vetec max is at 3400 .. perhaps it is normal, just wrong engine for a small 4x4 Nicola H 1
Honey Badger Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 I found some torque figures .. vetec is max at 4900 the non vetec max is at 3400 .. perhaps it is normal, just wrong engine for a small 4x4Think of it less of a 4x4 and more of a Honda Logo on stilts, they were never meant to do anymore off roading than over a slightly moist grass verge to drop Tarquin off at ruggeron a sunday morning. As m'coli said use the top end of the rev range a lot more, it will give you more grunt and probably the same MPGs
Christine Posted December 6, 2015 Author Posted December 6, 2015 Yeah i just need one of those turbo brrrrmmm PISHHHHH , BRRRRMMMM PISHHH ! dodah's and all will be good .
Station Posted December 6, 2015 Posted December 6, 2015 Have driven a few VTEC's and they have been fine in low down revs, just like a normal car.I read VTEC was designed for decent MPG purposes.
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