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1 hour ago, bunglebus said:

Seems very unlikely to me - the men obviously having to walk around the car don't look messed with, so unless there was a different car there that was somehow replaced (not forgetting this would be using 1960s tech) it doesn't make sense.

All just seems a lot of effort for a general street scene 

This, surely.

As mentioned earlier on, special builds were relatively common, and this one is likely to be no exception.

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Yeah it's bollocks innit, I don't care how much of an 'expert' you are you can't be certain whether an image has been tampered with unless you examine the negatives and even then it's not an exact science. The fact that people are still arguing about whether Lee Harvey Oswald's 'rifle' photos are real or not 60 years down the line says it all (although, perhaps, there is more at stake with those photos than with the unidentified car one).

Photo expert man is just adding more supposition to the already murky waters. There is no point making assumptions, because there is no way at all to verify those assumptions. This whole thing is really fascinating as a study of human behaviour (and that's why I hate even acknowledging or responding to it); People on pistonheads who think they know about cars, but actually don't know anything, try to identify a car. 99% of suggestions are inane and obviously wrong. People show non-PH members, 'car experts', magazine journalists, their mates in the pub - nobody can identify it. People CANNOT ACCEPT that there is something in the world which does not have an answer.

Now, I understand this frustration completely. I have been fascinated by one-offs, specials, low-volume productions cars, prototypes etc for my whole life, and have spent an unhealthy amount of time researchign stuff like this. I have a huge folder of 'unknown' cars which will, most likely, never be identified. This blue car is just one of them - I am a pragmatist and realise some mysteries just won't be solved. I accept this, although it is annoying, it's life. These people who are possibly paying attention to this type of car for the first time in their lives do no believe that such a 'mystery' can exist. Instead of shrugging and moving on, they invent increasingly outlandish solutions - like 'it's not even a real photograph, that's why you can't identify the car!' What a cop-out!

Remember a few years ago on Pistonheads something similar happened, with this car?

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After a few weeks of 'THATS A AUSTIN METRO M8 OBVS' etc, the PHers went nuts and people were doing all this half-assed 'analysis' showing hgow this was clearly a photoshopped image to create a 'generic car' and that it was all a practical joke, all becuase they COULD NOT ACCEPT there was something out there they couldn't instantly recognise. It was nuts. The guy who took the photo was pilloried for weeks, maybe months, until he drove back there, knocked on the door of the house and got the whole story (including more pictures). The guy built it, completely bespoke, drove it once or twice but it had some teething troubles, so he parked it up and never, ever touched it again, for 40 years!

Now, nobody was ever going to recognise it because it was literally on the public road twice, was never featured in any period magazine, was never reported on anywhere, never photographed before now.

Just opening a folder of 'unknowns' at random, and I can pick any number of cars at random which have eluded identification - most of these were only caught on film by chance, either purely at random or by a curious photographer. The answers may well be out there somewhere, but I'm not holding my breath...

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7 minutes ago, barrett said:

Yeah it's bollocks innit, I don't care how much of an 'expert' you are you can't be certain whether an image has been tampered with unless you examine the negatives and even then it's not an exact science. The fact that people are still arguing about whether Lee Harvey Oswald's 'rifle' photos are real or not 60 years down the line says it all (although, perhaps, there is more at stake with those photos than with the unidentified car one).

Photo expert man is just adding more supposition to the already murky waters. There is no point making assumptions, because there is no way at all to verify those assumptions. This whole thing is really fascinating as a study of human behaviour (and that's why I hate even acknowledging or responding to it); People on pistonheads who think they know about cars, but actually don't know anything, try to identify a car. 99% of suggestions are inane and obviously wrong. People show non-PH members, 'car experts', magazine journalists, their mates in the pub - nobody can identify it. People CANNOT ACCEPT that there is something in the world which does not have an answer.

Now, I understand this frustration completely. I have been fascinated by one-offs, specials, low-volume productions cars, prototypes etc for my whole life, and have spent an unhealthy amount of time researchign stuff like this. I have a huge folder of 'unknown' cars which will, most likely, never be identified. This blue car is just one of them - I am a pragmatist and realise some mysteries just won't be solved. I accept this, although it is annoying, it's life. These people who are possibly paying attention to this type of car for the first time in their lives do no believe that such a 'mystery' can exist. Instead of shrugging and moving on, they invent increasingly outlandish solutions - like 'it's not even a real photograph, that's why you can't identify the car!' What a cop-out!

Remember a few years ago on Pistonheads something similar happened, with this car?

J15RmKSa.jpg

After a few weeks of 'THATS A AUSTIN METRO M8 OBVS' etc, the PHers went nuts and people were doing all this half-assed 'analysis' showing hgow this was clearly a photoshopped image to create a 'generic car' and that it was all a practical joke, all becuase they COULD NOT ACCEPT there was something out there they couldn't instantly recognise. It was nuts. The guy who took the photo was pilloried for weeks, maybe months, until he drove back there, knocked on the door of the house and got the whole story (including more pictures). The guy built it, completely bespoke, drove it once or twice but it had some teething troubles, so he parked it up and never, ever touched it again, for 40 years!

Now, nobody was ever going to recognise it because it was literally on the public road twice, was never featured in any period magazine, was never reported on anywhere, never photographed before now.

Just opening a folder of 'unknowns' at random, and I can pick any number of cars at random which have eluded identification - most of these were only caught on film by chance, either purely at random or by a curious photographer. The answers may well be out there somewhere, but I'm not holding my breath...

196776045_Screenshot2021-05-03at10_59_47.thumb.png.e36ed0d6e305b440ea6a536eb6ac0713.png

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Very well put, it is telling how people are spoiling for a reason to disagree, but I am glad that there are some who try to get down the bottom of the Rabbit Hole. As for that YNH 849S thing - Did someone save it? It looked like it could drive again tbh

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Before this homogenised era of highly engineered mass-production, cars were a different kind of thing completely. Mysteries are fundamentally interesting.

I still have got  nowhere closer with this. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Asimo said:

Before this homogenised era of highly engineered mass-production, cars were a different kind of thing completely. Mysteries are fundamentally interesting.

I still have got  nowhere closer with this. 

 

Do you have a hi-res scan of the photo - preferably the whole thing, if that's cropped?

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5 hours ago, MisterH said:

As for that YNH 849S thing - Did someone save it? It looked like it could drive again

I put two and two together (and probably got five) and worked out it was very local to where I used to live. I hunted for it for months but never found the car or the house

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22 minutes ago, bunglebus said:

I put two and two together (and probably got five) and worked out it was very local to where I used to live. I hunted for it for months but never found the car or the house

I just spent five minutes on maps and found it, but I am a finding-cars-on-google-maps-NINJA

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On 5/3/2021 at 2:47 AM, Pieman said:

Or maybe it's a ghost car, and this is the only time it was caught by a camera.  Maybe it's still haunting the streets of London to this day, taunting any attempt to make its phantom driver pay congestion charges by vanishing as it passes the cameras.

Ghost cars haunt the streets of London every night.  This Landcrab 2-door was captured on GhostCCTV on Monday night.

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8 hours ago, bunglebus said:

And a Routemaster that went under a low bridge?

RM1368, victim of an Arson attack that cost it its upper deck (but helped release RM8 into service by releasing RM8 from the role of the Chiswick test bed)

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(perhaps Mystery car was made out of the remains of the upper deck and haunts enthusiasts to this very day? LOL)

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