Halfwit Goes 200mph Probz Thinks It's A Larf

[MarvinsMom]

FIX BAYONETS!

 

cold steel captain mainwaring,

 

they don't like it up 'em!

[forddeliveryboy]

What I always wonder is why the Germans are in such a hurry to get somewhere. 150mph but to what?

 

 

Good wives, attractive girlfriends, lovers - who can cook proper food? Speed is relative - some Victorians thought you'd die over 60mph. More than 70mph is quite safe if you're in a country where secondhand tyres aren't fitted, people use their mirrors and know their/their cars' limits.

 

[Craig the Princess]

No 71 mph isn't inherently dangerous compared to 70mph but there has to be a limit otherwise cockwombles will be doing upto 200mph for lolz and more people will die. British roads are about the safest anywhere, a large part of this being the speed limit.

 

It doesn't mean that lane discipline isn't important or tailgating isn't dangerous but it does (normally) keep some twat doing 200 mph bearing down on a Citroen XM A-framing a Proton at 50mph with 'hilarious' consequences.

[Jim Bell]

Could the Citroen pulling an Proton on an A frame not just drive faster to keep awake LOL?

[forddeliveryboy]

Anything which can't maintain over 55mph shouldn't be on a motorway. British roads are probably relatively safe because of our large % of motorway use, and the fact that people long ago stopped enjoying driving and see it as the equivalent as sitting on the bog instead of working.

[Craig the Princess]

And that people who do 194mph are sent down.

[Pete-M]

What I always wonder is why the Germans are in such a hurry to get somewhere. 150mph but to what?

That's a good point. Over thousands of miles driving across Germany I've not seen many people going properly fast over there. Most people seem to do the right speed for the conditions. The real speed merchants I've seen have either been UK registered supercars / Skylines / track stuff, or VW Transporter vans.

 

Most of the cars on a clear stretch of quiet autobahn seem to sit between 80-120 mph. On very quiet bits you'll see the odd car doing 150, but not many.

 

I've also done a few trips across doing 60 mph and as long as you indicate, watch your mirrors and move back to the slow lane asap it's fine.

 

Same as here would be if people had lane discipline and knew what mirrors are for.

 

Autobahns have more dangerous junctions than here, but the bends on the actual autobahn appear to be better set up for speed than ours. No cats eyes either. The Mercedes comes into its own there - it really is at home on the autobahn in a way it isn't on the motorway. The Jag was nowhere near as stable. Taking that into consideration I think 100 mph on a clear, dry, quiet motorway here should be legal.

[forddeliveryboy]

I always used to find them at 90mph minimum in slower Polos, but most sat at 105-115-125. Totally safe if your vehicle and tyres are in good order, your brain is working and there is some driver education. Why go slower? - time isn't finite.

 

I find sitting at 70mph in a capable car, on a quiet British motorway almost dangerous in the way it encourages a lack of attention. I usually drive as safely as possible, taking everything into consideration.

[Craig the Princess]

How many extra deaths would be acceptable before the increase to a 100mph limit isn't worth it to you?

[Pete-M]

A few billion.

[captain_70s]

The motorway speed limit is fairly arbitrary. It was plucked out of thin air in a era where most family cars either couldn't reach that speed or would be going flat out, if we worked by the same system the 70 limit would now be something like 120. I reckon you could probably safely raise the motorway limit to 90mph, half the cars in the right hand lane are doing 80+ when there are no speed cameras about anyway.

 

I'd wager it's a millionty billion times safer to be doing 120mph in a new Golf than 70mph in a Ford Anglia. I think the main problem is the speed that some cars are capable of being in amongst cars going much slower. If everybody is driving at 70-100mph you'd expect other traffic to be doing about the same sort of speed. If some dozy bugger only checks his mirror once before changing lanes and the guy flying down the right hand lane behind him is doing 200mph rather than 80mph than things could get very messy very quickly.

 

I don't think speed kills, that's a dumb, overly simplified argument to make. Going "fast" is context dependant, it varies depending on your car, your surroundings, road conditions, your choice of tyre, the weather, etc. I was passenger in a BMW 235i yesterday, I'm pretty sure if you had that going down the motorway at 120 and me in the next lane doing 70 in my Civic and got us to stand on the brakes at the same time the Bimmer would pull up faster and with less hassle than a far cheaper, older car on narrower, shitty rubber. The Dolomite would lock it's wheels, go into a spin and then flip over because vehicle dynamics hadn't been invented in 1976 and safety was for poofs.

 

The other problem is that once you start getting over the 120-150 mark you are starting to get towards the limits of nearly any car and more importantly beyond your ability to think fast enough to react to a problem. I'm sure we've all been in a situation where the road has been a bit more slippery than we expected or somebody pulled out in front and heavy braking was required. At 200mph you won't even have time to think about hitting the brake before you've obliterated whatever hapless motorist got in your way, God forbid you try to steer around something because you'll need a fair amount of luck to catch a skid at that sort of speed.

If you're busy filming the whole thing with your phone so you can brag to your equally mentally challenged mates then you probably deserve your bumming in the prison showers.

 

It's dozy fucktards like that which fuel the "any speed is too much speed" brigade and you end with a lower speed limit because apparently one tosser crashing at 200mph means that 70mph is too fast. We had that locally a few years ago, a 40mph limit appearing mostly fuelled by somebody in a Subaru converting himself into a fine paste and it being well publicised, the fact that he was going rather faster than the 60 limit didn't seem to matter and the fact that the speed limit is a LEGAL LIMIT not a minimum speed didn't seem to register with anybody easily.

 

 

[Junkman]

If they can drive really fast, what's with the popularity of those weird little Donald Duck comic books that are always sold amongst the German newspapers in airports? I'm just trying to understand their culture.

 

Donald Duck is American culture, not German.

Airports aren't necessarily representing national culture and heritage, you know.

And thanks God they aren't, when I look at Heathrow.

[Junkman]

 

 

 

An institutionalised annual international Disney style rip off taking place while many local Germans go away on holidays.

[castros_bro]

I sometimes drive one of those big things with loads of stuff in the back. The danger is the speed difference between the fastest and slowest vehicles, with the big things having speed limiters and vast breaking power compared to the little faster toys. 70mph seems to translate into 90mph which is enough on a road shared with 40 tonne at 50mph as on a duel cabbageway in Scotland.  Obviously the speed limits have recently been changed and are different in Scotland than Englend/Wales.

[Richard]

Scotland does have one different speed limit. It's still 40 for HGVs on single carriageway roads other than the A9 between Perth and Inverness.

[Junkman]

That's why their popularity confuses me.

 

Oddly they are even more popular in Italy.

[castros_bro]

Scotland does have one different speed limit. It's still 40 for HGVs on single carriageway roads other than the A9 between Perth and Inverness.

Me, and my 650 ish elected representitives + the shed load of unelected piers (includes Sufend, Brighton, Clacton-on-sea) disagree with you.

 

 

 

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

[Richard]

One of the rare occasions where the website gives actual information and they get it wrong, they really should just pull the plug on it. It's still 40 on single carriageways and 50 on dual carriageways here.

 

http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/news-and-safety-tips/new-higher-speed-limits-for-lorries-in-england-and-wales

[alf892]

He lives in Rushden so it is understandable that he would wish to leave that webbed fingered den of iniquity* at great velocity.

 

If its the part of the A45 i think it is, going towards the A6 roundabout then its quite a decent straight with vood visibility, still no excuses for going that speed on it.

 

 

* obviously Alf isnt included in this, he must come from Higham.

Thanks for the get out Mr Badger! Higham?? shit man they are just the people who are waiting to enter Rusden...

 

Turns out the twat is from Billing (pie Key?)although some of his spawn seems to have settled up the nasty side of town. TBH we do have quite a large mouth breather population but I think that is becoming ever more common in all areas

 

 

 

An institutionalised annual international Disney style rip off taking place while many local Germans go away on holidays.

And will you please stop spoiling my feckin daydreams........

[wuvvum]

Scotland does have one different speed limit. It's still 40 for HGVs on single carriageway roads other than the A9 between Perth and Inverness.

I thought the A9 was more a case of authorities turning a blind eye than an official different speed limit?  Unless it's changed?

[Richard]

It was semi-official but unwritten until all the Scottish forces merged in April 2013, after that they seemed to enforce the 40 limit. The 50 limit for lorries was made official in October last year and backed up with average speed cameras.

[Lacquer Peel]

You rarely see lorries travelling at 40MPH on Scottish A roads apart from M&S, Co-op, ASDA etc ones.

[strangeangel]

An institutionalised annual international Disney style rip off taking place while many local Germans go away on holidays.

 

You been to Oktoberfest then Mr J? It's something I've thought about doing on and off over the years.

[HH-R]

I can't see the 70 MPH limit ever being raised, it's against the government's green targets. TBH I think it's about right as it is.

[J-Rod]

Being pragmatic, until recently, I'd say 80 is a better indication.

 

However, that said, last week I had the misfortune of having to drive round in a new C1 - shit visibility, far too small mirrors and felt like it was about to give up and die around about 65. 

 

Best left at 70 when there are abominations such as that on the road. 

[John F]

strangeangel, on 10 Nov 2015 - 4:49 PM, said:

You been to Oktoberfest then Mr J? It's something I've thought about doing on and off over the years.

 

I've been, and I can't recommend it at all.

 

Pretty much every village & town in southern Germany holds a Kirchweih or Altstadtfest in mid-to-late summer, any of these events will be more enjoyable and a great deal more friendly than the impersonal, crowded, monolithic tourist-fest that is the Oktoberfest.

[motormatt]

I'm all for a higher speed limit on the motorway. I also think motorway driving should be part of the driving test. A modern saloon will sit at 125+ all day long, it's the meat in the seat that is the problem.

[garbaldy]

Many drivers would feel very unsafe at higher speeds, after a few miles on the autobahn even I felt a little cautious and we where doing 80, some cars pass as if your parked and it does give you a bit of a shock.

I think 80 is plenty fast enough for our motorway's.

[Craig the Princess]

The thing is if a politician raised the limit and road deaths increase they would be hammered for this.

The current limit (70, not really enforced until 80) is pretty much right for the current infrastructure running at the current usage level.

[Pete-M]

Plenty of Police top men have advocated raising the motorway limit, only to back down when they realise they'll lose revenue.