Bentley Turbo R total shite! Now, Brooklands 'R' turbo shite....

[Forty-two]

I have experience of taking a used car back to the dealers, 5 year old Impreza, 60,000 miles.  2000 miles into my ownership and the bottom end let go.

 

They paid to rebuild it, didn't cost me a thing, so happy to give some advice on how to tackle the dealer.  Drop me a PM initially.

[Junkman]

Feck me, you can buy two holy cars for that!

 

EFA

[Bren]

So potentially this is £1500 worth of work.

 

Could you trust the dealer to do a proper job?

 

Fair to say if you are shelling out the car will need to be a keeper.

[MarvinsMom]

i think i would certainly see what if anything the dealer will do since this car was poorly before you bought it.

 

that will be why the previous owner wanted rid i guess?

 

all said and done i don;t think that you have anything to loose. however i think the dealer won't want to know, as it was a customer's car and not one of their own?

 

who ever it was put roffle on the thread title is a very bad man, i was getting all excited there for a moment!!

[chaseracer]

Dave, if it becomes necessary, do you have legal advice included with your house or car insurance?

[Lankytim]

Stick a pinto in? or thicker oil.

[bub2006]

Feck me, you can buy two whole cars for that!

Only 2?!

All best with car fella, sorry to hear of your woes. I'd stick with it though. Try dealers, I know I would

[xtriple]

Thanks guys. I intend to stick with it the car is a keeper and it really is lovely to drive. I am going to try with the dealer but I am not hopeful and they are the only specialist in the area!

 

Which suxs.

 

So far no one wants to work on this old lass everyone says: yeah no problem, then I never hear from them again! 2 painters so far, 2 garages so far. Whatever happens, it will be repaired as it deserves it, it's a lovely car.

[EssDeeWon]

They should sort this out, but If they don't want to know.....

 

Park it outside their gaff with a notice in the window stating the work needed after only 14 days and poor customer service received. Someone did this with a Range Rover Sport once, the garage spent the day having a hissy fit and trying to contact the owner promising to 'get it sorted' asap.

[Fat_Pirate]

Xtriple, you sound a lovely bloke but I reckon you're going to need to become very assertive with this dealer.  I see you paid for it via their card machine, which I believe makes them liable - not the owner who they claim to be selling on behalf of.  As already mentioned, I think a visit to Citizens Advice is your first move.

[captain_70s]

You own a Bentley Turbo R now, get some "business associates" to go around their place and "negotiate terms" on your behalf using the tactic of "definitely not hitting people with metal bats, honest gov".

[Bren]

You own a Bentley Turbo R now, get some "business associates" to go around their place and "negotiate terms" on your behalf using the tactic of "definitely not hitting people with metal bats, honest gov".

Tell them you went to Eton and Oxford, and if it isn't sorted PDQ you will have your mates from the Bulliingdon club round to box his fucking ears.

[Guest Lord Sward]

I'm sure the dealer will be fine.  I would however find a reputable specialists to entrust the work to.

[sporty-shite]

Tell them you went to Eton and Oxford, and if it isn't sorted PDQ you will have your mates from the Bulliingdon club round to skull-fuck his pet pig.

 

FTFY

[DeeJay]

Set the Hounds on the shifty bastards.

[xtriple]

I have had a look on 'Flying spares' and seals are £25 each... bad, but not the end of the world when there are only 16 of the bastards. However, next to the picture of the seals is a Bentley service sheet that says how to change them without taking the heads off! That could be worth knowing...

 

I shall have words with Specialist cars but I can't be bothered to argue or get nasty as it is pointless and bad for me! I hope that a 'nice' approach will work in the first place but if they piss me off then all bets are off!

[Guest Lord Sward]

3 months no-quibble warranty on any used car, the next 3 months is open to debate as to the fault.  But by law, you have a 6 month warranty, regardless of price or age.  This changes again on Oct 1st to be even more in favour of the consumer.

[Guest Lord Sward]

Is this right? Sounds like utter nonsense, but willing to be shown otherwise.

 

Well.  I've only been trading for neigh-on 20 years.  So I hope its right, otherwise I've wasted an awful lot on Goodwill as opposed to Warranty repairs.

[Bren]

I have had a look on 'Flying spares' and seals are £25 each... bad, but not the end of the world when there are only 16 of the bastards. However, next to the picture of the seals is a Bentley service sheet that says how to change them without taking the heads off! That could be worth knowing...

 

I shall have words with Specialist cars but I can't be bothered to argue or get nasty as it is pointless and bad for me! I hope that a 'nice' approach will work in the first place but if they piss me off then all bets are off!

I like your attitude- give them a chance before getting medieval on their ass.

 

The problem is this is'nt worn brake pads or a leaking shock - it's top end surgery on a Bentley V8. Much expense that they will want to avoid.

[dugong]

Yes, I'm a cunt but didn't mean to be one.

"Cunt off, you cunt."

 

(SM Partridge in Carry on Cunting, 1987)

[Christine]

Yeah !! Ed China would just grip the ends of the valve with some mole grips, push the springs down with a screwdriver , magnet ready to catch the collets... fuck ..one half collet fell down the oilway i didn't block up...


There's a special tool to do Land rover 2.25 valve seals.. but i did them without it . Unfortunately i can't remember how...

Yes i can !!! I fed a load of cord down the plug hole and put the piston TDC ! Is the Bentley engine a hemi ?

[Christine]

3 months no-quibble warranty on any used car, the next 3 months is open to debate as to the fault.  But by law, you have a 6 month warranty, regardless of price or age.  This changes again on Oct 1st to be even more in favour of the consumer.

 

 

Excluded are  raffle cars

[chaseracer]

Tell them you went to Eton and Oxford, and if it isn't sorted PDQ you will have your mates from the Bulliingdon club round to make him SQUEAL LIKE A PIGGY!!

 

 

Even more betterer.

[MarvinsMom]

i know a painter who has done quiet a lot of high end machines like this, however he is based near Malton in North Yorks....

 

so that is probably no use to you whatsoever!!

[chaseracer]

ROADTRIP!

 

[Bear]

Is this right? Sounds like utter nonsense, but willing to be shown otherwise.

 

It is right. One of the reasons bombsite dealers are falling off the map, combined with shit rents and eBay and ever other bugger being an expert on cars.

 

FWIW, I am full of hatred and bile for the majority of mechanics due to the number of times I've been shafted like a dead pig's head in a University club, both on quality of workmanship AND the bill at the end, but when it comes to the bombsite car dealers I have a little more sympathy. My car habit was well fuelled by a bloke called Ian who had a little patch in Kelso, and most of them were paid for by helping out, occasionally selling a car or doing collection runs and so forth. I only wanted the unsellable weird crap anyway.

 

His margins after rent and so forth were miniscule to begin with. He couldn't flog the middle-money, middle aged things on finance because the activities of a dealer in the area had utterly shafted the postcode for credit - not even Black Horse would touch it. You're talking £50 Colts where someone with three of their own teeth and more children than fingers would ask to buy it for a fiver a week. (The Colt in question looked exactly like the Roffle one!). When he did get the odd profitable car, because most were the ones coming underwritten from dealers that weren't up to scratch for a premium market there was a fair bit of pre-sale servicing, an attempt to make sure they'd be right, and a worry that they'd come back anyway.

 

Usually if something came back it was easy enough to sort, but there was one that broke the camel's back. A Honda CR-V. Punted out at the top of his typical market, but VERY low for the CR-V due to the miles on it, there was about £800 in it (which would be the best sale for a fortnight), which was split between him and the bloke who did the underwriting. Nice chap who carried rolls of twenties (usually had about £10K on him) and a gun. Due to the cash, and dealing in crappier parts of Edinburgh like Niddrie.

 

The buyer of the CR-V had a whine about a whine from the back axle. We think he'd gone wading in it, which they're not awfully good at, but can't be sure. Rather than popping it over for it to be checked and the diff oil changed, he went to a Honda main dealer (who used to be a Citroën dealer and utterly screwed me on an FDV replacement that I had to do myself again) and they said the diff was screwed. I forget the amount quoted for replacement but it was in four figures.

 

Ian tried to negotiate, but the guy was determined. Got trading standards involved. We'd been very careful, too, to meet all the new requirements coming in - displays of data in the windscreen, etc. - and all car business, all business, in the Borders had been screwed by Foot & Mouth. Bad timing.

 

He shut the business. Also had pretty severe depression. It's why I am very careful on used cars, both to try to buy well, but also to be reasonable about expectations. Bangers are bangers. It's not to say he didn't make money - it was survivable - but he wasn't loaded, driving about in posh cars or hiding cash from the taxman.

 

Not that you shouldn't go back to the dealer in this case and at least see if they'll do labour if you'll do parts (and trust me, if you can afford to get the head gaskets done at the same time, do it, you will thank yourself in the long run) given that they seem to be a specialist?

[chaseracer]

Stick a pinto in...

 

Essex V6.  Then race it.

 

 

[tooSavvy]

... this dealer, he doesn't lurk on here - perchance

 

 

TS

[xtriple]

Don't know if they lurk here but I hardly think so as it's not really their 'thing'!

 

However, just had a reply to my e-mail to them and basically, they are going to help sort it out! It's going back on Tuesday and they can keep it until it's all better again.

 

I'd like to get it all fixed, the bodywork repaired and then I'm going to flog the Honda and use the BTR as my everyday car. Stupid? Yes, but I don't care, I do naff all mileage and have the life expectancy of a mayfly so I may as well enjoy it.

[dugong]

Hooray for moderate solutions! [stares at Rolls-Royce engined APC in car park]

BTR as daily ftw.